LorAnn Flavors- COLOR CODED Complete Ingredients List

[NancyB]

I downloaded and unzip the file at post 14 fine. However id also like to know if there is an updated list. The only other issue is i am red/green colorblind so reading this existing one is going to be a HUGE challenge.

I do appreciate all the work that went into it tho. Its an excellent guide.

I'm reading through this discussion 1-1/2 yrs later, and wondered if you ever got a copy that you could read and recognize the red parts and green parts as 'different' from the rest of the text ? If not, I'd be more than willing to fix you up a copy that would show those red and green changes in a way you'd understand. let me know, cuz I'm very willing to help you out - tis a payback for all I've received from the folks here on ECF (grin)....I'm a retired legal secretary and the typing would be 'no problem' for me! NancyB

 

[NancyB]

How long are the LorAnn flavors last? I have 17 bottles from June '09. Should I throw them out?

I'm reading through this discussion 7 mos. after you posted your question regarding Lorann Oils and wonder if you got an answer to this question? I just received some 'vape mail' today from LorAnns and on each tiny bottle's shrink wrap 'seal' was "Best by April 2016" so that is approximately 3 years that they should be still good for - and questionable after that I would assume. NancyB

 

[Racehorse]

English Toffee contains caramel coloring, adn ctiric acid, not noted on orig. list on page 1.

 

[subver]

So, I've been using the Maple flavor and just realized it contains actual maple syrup. I'm kicking myself so hard, especially because I just perfected a recipe that uses a lot of maple in it.
Is this bad to vape, or will it mostly just gunk coils up faster? If so, how much faster?

Does anyone know how the Maple Natural compares to the regular Maple? Wondering if I could literally replace the flavors.

I'm afraid to fill a full tank up with this new recipe... I'm glad I didn't make 100ml of it at least, but I still want to vape it!

Any suggestions? I've only got about 20-30mls at most, and I'm almost out of my other everyday vape.. this would be enough for me to get by until I make more with the other Maple Natural..

Thanks!

 

[Bill Oso]

Any information on diluting LorAnn's flavors would be greatly appreciated. I have a bottle of the Almond Flavor super concentrated and the stuff is STRONG!

 

[ArcherB]

I'm am looking at LorAnn's "Super Strength" flavorings as well and would like to know how this would effect the amount mixed with the VG/Nic mix as well.
Surely someone has tried this. What were your results?

 

[NancyB]

Any information on diluting LorAnn's flavors would be greatly appreciated. I have a bottle of the Almond Flavor super concentrated and the stuff is STRONG!

I am a 6mos. vaping newbie - thus stated - I've made some DIY juice and found each "maker of the flavors" to be a trial and error process for a good result. I suggest you begin with 'drops' rather than mls for a new batch and make a SMALL batch to begin with (5ml or 10ml). Today I found ECF member 'breaktru's website for his e-juice-me-up calculator and LOTS of talk about the makers of the flavors, and other ingredients (PG, VG, Nic, etc.), plus he's so helpful and offers his recipies too! and welcome's others to share their own creations... here's the website I found and have yet to read it ALL over myself but from using this calculator myself (and loving it!!), and reading other threads here on ECF with breaktru's posts, I know he's a trusted helper out there for us newbie vapers (grin). DIY eJuice I truly hesitate in giving you a percentage or # of drops per total ml mix...cuz I received an order of Lorann's flavoring (NOT super-concentrated flavors) and have spent 2 weeks adding more drops every 3rd day or so, after testing the last additions... finding them still needing more flavoring (I'm up to adding 20% of the total mix with the individual flavoring)... I have made a note to myself, next time order the super concentrated flavors! and know that when I get those, I'll be asking the same question, like, where do I begin? amounts-wise - lol). So - begin small and work up in the 'amounts' area - that is the best I can offer! One more thing, if you end up with something that is just not right (off-balance in an area) you can always dilute it with more PG/VG mix and perhaps another addition of Nic and/or flavor to correct it. I've done this in my learning with DIY juice making. ie, those over-powering mixes are not total wastes! NancyB

p.s. do a search on ECF regarding "diluting LorAnn's flavors" (or other words) and then read over the posts that are listed for help in the amounts to use...

 

[NancyB]

I'm reading through this discussion 7 mos. after you posted your question regarding Lorann Oils and wonder if you got an answer to this question? I just received some 'vape mail' today from LorAnns and on each tiny bottle's shrink wrap 'seal' was "Best by April 2016" so that is approximately 3 years that they should be still good for - and questionable after that I would assume. NancyB

One more note on this thread/discussion: I am not one to quickly toss something.. period. lol I would look at any juice I had and before tossing it, think to myself... there is a base juice that is salvageable, perhaps nicotine content also IF the flavoring has gone 'dead' or tasteless - so I would tend to mix the remaining bottle contents with more flavoring or more PG/VG base (to your liking) if I wanted a lower nic level at this point, etc. I think the only thing I might toss would be juice that plugged up my wicks and was too frustrating to use - but then, adding more PG base, flavor or nic might solve even that scenario, also.

I once received 'freshly made' Menthol Tobacco flavor in a 100% VG base that almost immediately plugged up my atomizer - I tried many things to figure out what was causing this and found, bottom line was the newly mixed in Menthol crystals - ie, it just needed to steep or set awhile for them to liquefy. They clung to the sides of my clearomizer when I dumped the juice back in the bottle. I thought they might be vegetable fibers from an organic mix or something. I had tried replacing the atomizer head in the clearomizer, and using a freshly charged battery, then began looking and talking about the juice... in order to come to answer I needed in this instance.
But in all of this process - come onto the Forum and ASK your questions! don't be shy! Me, I might only be one step ahead of you but I know what I've gone through and learned some things that I can pass on to the newbie behind me (grin), and love doing that, also!! NancyB

 

[NancyB]

What percent do you guys use Cherry at? I thought there was a thread with LorAnn suggested percents but I can't find it.

I went looking for the information I had read (somewhere) about which group of flavors was say 2 times the strength or concentration of another group of flavors they offer (etc.) and found a good 'page' with that information for you - hope it helps! Learn about LorAnn's candy oils, flavoring oils, bakery emulsions, and vanilla extracts. | Lorann Oils NancyB

 

[randomhousegir]

I am trying to get larger amounts of flavorings and i was wondering if any of you veterans have gone to LorAnn's actual website and can tell me which category of flavorings i should purchase from. I like the black cherry but the list posted here says it may not be Ok to vape because of the artificial colorings but the one stop shop sells them and the super strength flavorings to. Any help would be appreciated.Thanks in advance.

I have and you want to get the "water soluable flavorings" NOW on that note, LorAnn designs their flavorings to be used for foods and candies and sometimes even their water soluable flavors can have things like diactyl in them which is a NO NO so you will want to be careful with their products. I tend to use Flavor West or TFA to get mine as they are more safe. ALWAYS read the ingredients and framiliarize yourself with ingredients that are not good to vape and by learning that information you can buy from pretty much any supplier because you can check to make sure that there isnt anything bad in their flavoring.


Just my 2 cents BUT if you want more help with this (I realize now that your post is from month's ago) I am more than happy to help you. It just takes a PM to let me know lol

 

[Koman]

I went looking for the information I had read (somewhere) about which group of flavors was say 2 times the strength or concentration of another group of flavors they offer (etc.) and found a good 'page' with that information for you - hope it helps! Learn about LorAnn's candy oils, flavoring oils, bakery emulsions, and vanilla extracts. | Lorann Oils NancyB

Thanks for the link!

 

[kamil99]

no colorblind mode for these charts sucks.

good list though, i'll get my wife to decode for me.

 

[Shanigenz]

I used this list as a guide to order flavors from Lor Ann. I ordered pomegranate and it arrived with an extremely heavy red color. Since this list doesn't show the flavor as having any food dyes should I assume the color to be natural?

 

[Screamin Eagle]

Why can you not use the oils to vape with?
Is there a health reason, or is it just because it might gum up your coils?
I would figgure that if the VG is extracted from a vegetable base oil that the flavoring oils would mix with it.
I mean I just made a 10ml batch of juice using LorAnn's naturial spearmint oil for flavoring, distilled water to cut the stright VG, and a few drops of liquid Splenda. I'm letting it set up before I vape it, but a drop on my finger tastes great. Am I going to have to dump it?
I'm just starting out in making DIY juice. So I need all the advice I can get.

 

[Hoosier]

Oils are lumped into a single category due to some unfortunate simplifications.

There is a lung condition that can be attributed to inhaling oils, but it is usually found in professional fire-eaters and is from inhaling vegetable or mineral oil. (It's a pretty bad thing and I think this is where the original warnings come from, but I don't know when all oils were lumped into the same category.)

Mint oils are usually OK. Wintergreen is a notable exception, but there are plenty of artificial, not really oil, versions. It takes such a small amount of mint oil to make the taste so tread lightly. There is some guy on here, Rolly-something-or-other, that vaped nothing but DIY mint oil flavored juice for like 9 months straight. (According to one of his posts many moons ago.) I think he was a manager or admin here on ECF some time later and I haven't heard that he had any problems with it.

I haven't seen anything bad come from folks extracting the oils from coffee and teas to make juice flavoring yet. Heck, I doubt the folks doing coffee and tea extractions realize the flavor of these things comes from the oils in them.

And you are correct, we're not usually mixing our flavorings in water so the fact that something doesn't mix with water doesn't mean that it won't mix with PG or VG. It could not mix worth-a-bean, but water solubility isn't too meaningful.

 

[rolygate]

^ What he said.

It is possible that the word 'oils' is used for many things in flavouring even if they aren't chemically-speaking oils.

I did vape a lot of pure peppermint oil along with caramel and tobacco flavours for about 9 or 10 months when I first started vaping. For some reason I was obsessed with it; now, I don't like it all that much. That's the way it goes...

It never gummed up a single atty, and it never affected my lungs (and I have super-sensitive lungs). My breathing improved over that period in any case because I'd had some issues just before that.

So this all looks a bit tricky as there is no straightforward way to determine what is actually an 'oil' in chemical terms (and which could have implications for the lungs), or what will gum up a head (as this could simply be oily-looking types of materials). All I can say is that a sizeable amount of 'peppermint oil' had no issues for me. I can't go any further than that as it needs a chemist to sort this out. Anyway, it might be the case that inhalation of 'oils' from flavourings may have no health implications even if they were mineral oils or close analogues such as castor oil, as the dose is too small. Fire-eaters get lipoid pneumonia from inhaling massive amounts of mineral oil (paraffin / kerosene) fumes.

In my opinion (and it's only an opinion as there is no study of this issue) there is probably an elevation of risk for pneumonia (the regular type) from vaping, for people with lungs that have been severely compromised by smoking, such as emphysema sufferers; such persons are known to be at increased risk for pneumonia in any case. This has nothing to do with lipoid pneumonia as it's different. So perhaps people with emphysema or stage 3 / stage 4 COPD need to take extra care or use Snus instead.

 

[Screamin Eagle]

Thanks Hoosier and Rolygate for your input.
I'm not too worried about gumming up my coils. Those can be replaced. It was the health concerns that concerned me.

In any case I did try my DIY spearmint and I'm still alive so that's a positive sign.

Oh, and just in case your woundering, yes it turned out very well. My new ADV. Now it's time to see if I can flavor a mix with Real Lemon juice.

 

[Speed King]

no colorblind mode for these charts sucks.

good list though, i'll get my wife to decode for me.

Hey!! My sentiments exactly. I'm old and have learned to figure color codded stuff out for the most part.

 

[segdoh39]

I've read through this twice now, and being a NOOB I'm still confused with the list I have four LoAnn flavors and granted the bottles are small but nowhere did I see any thing on the lable that mentions DIACETYL. Three of the flavors did say the had artificial flavor
1- Peach yellow 5, red 40
2- Strawberry red 40, blue 1, treacetin
3- Butterscotch just says carmel color
4- Vanilla Butternut also says it has carmel color
Soooooooooooooooooo to use or not to use ????

 

[rolygate]

Some people vape this stuff and some won't. It depends on how you rate trying to reduce risk, or if you simply don't care what you inhale.

Lorann's was one of the few choices way back when but there are better choices now. These flavours are not designed for inhalation, they are for cake-making. Nobody really knows what is in them and there is certainly no need to inhale colourings now, you can buy from FlavourArt and get flavourings designed for and tested for inhalation. They spend a considerable amount of money on lab testing of flavours to determine suitability for vaping, and for that reason alone deserve our support.