Losing plenty of money vaping

[FRANKSTER]

FRANKSTER, I am sorry that you have had to figure out so much of this on your own. What gear and juice you like is something that each of us has to determine on our own. Some of us are lucky and quickly find what we need to get off analogs. Others struggle with this and I think that is what you are experiencing. I hope you find what you need quickly.

If at all possible I would suggest you seek out someone, either an experienced vapor or even better a local shop that specializes in ecig's. Buy them a coffee, trade some juice (use a regular atomizer and drip when trying new juices). Get yourself a mentor.

And then think about what a noob has to go thru in order to figure this stuff out. Googling for ecig's brings up some very aggressive marketing by not so great equipment suppliers. If a person is lucky they find there way here but they still have to figure stuff out (I loved your post about video reviews of juice). What can we do to make this better for a new person? that is the challenge…

Until then, tolerance an understanding that this is a new developing technology will go a long way.

Thank you for your advice, but I think most people posting here have missed the point. I have a pretty good handle on what is going on. I really do not need someone's help, but your advice was appreciated.

I am talking about the start of vaping...I did not go to vendors well, I did do a few mindlessly stupid purchases, but thankfully I got my money back because the batteries were defective. I went to Grimm Greene, I watched almost every video he put out. I do not think you would find one vapor to frown upon the Grimm.

Therefore, when the Grimm was doing a rave review about a particular juice and I mean rave...I would want to get thinking it has to be at least decent. I would go to the vendor that he did the review about. One juice, one vendor 15 ml 15 dollars plus 5 shipping = 20 dollars. I did this for about 6 or 7 of his juice reviews each one costing me 20 dollars b/c they were different vendors. Well, they tasted like poison and made me literally sick. No-one can mentor me on being foolish enough to believe the most respected guy in vaping.

Then I found phil bousardo(hope i spelled his name right) he gave rave reviews about 3 juices, again 20 dollars for 3 vendors.
It is not my fault that the juice sucked in my opinion. My point is valid. In the beginning you get hammered and then over the long term you save money.

My original post is only related to people who are vaping 1 or 2 months and I do not understand how they could have saved money unless a friend was helping them out.

I will never be fooled agin over any of this stuff ( at least not by the same vendor) I know the ropes now, when I listen to a great review on juice, I want 1ml and that is all it's worth based on my experience thus far.

 

[keyzygirl]

Theres a trade thread in the PIF subforum.You can trade juices you didnt care for to try another.That might save you some money.

 

[FRANKSTER]

Theres a trade thread in the PIF subforum.You can trade juices you didnt care for to try another.That might save you some money.

Thanks I found out a bit too late. I did trade away about 4 juices but In the first 3 weeks I tossed about 10 in the trash

 

[Prodijadd]

Theres a trade thread in the PIF subforum.You can trade juices you didnt care for to try another.That might save you some money.

I cringe at the thought of someone throwing out all that juice that I haven't tasted yet. I have found that many of these reviews are done with at least a lr atty dripped..and the taste is way different than using a carto.

 

[vapspaz]

I have been vaping for two months and I have lost at least 700 dollars thus far relative to smoking. I cannot see how it is possible to be saving money if you are new at vaping. Maybe you are getting the gear and juice without charge. It makes totally no sense. Let me give you an idea. It cost me 50 dollars a month to smoke. I smoked 2 packs a day and I rolled my own analogs with a machine. Before uncle Sammy put an end to buying cigs on line, I was paying 3 dollars a pack which equated to 120 dollars a month.

Ummm 2 packs a day at $3.00/pk = $180/month not $120. There fore you lie and thus render your last statement about "taking it to the bank" null and void.

As far as vaping is concerned let me give you a list for the last 2 months:

1. The sb and the k-go cost me approx 200 dollars with chargers and batteries
2. The cartos and attys that I purchased cost me at least 100-150 dollars
3. The juices have cost me at least at a minimum 300 to 400 dollars ($400 of my favorite joose would last me 6 months vapping 4-5 ml per day) Pssst.... You're suppose to vape it not drink it.
4. The shipping costs have cost at least 100 dollars.

1. SB+2 batts+charger= $117 plus k-go = $50 Total : $167 not $200 (could have saved $10 and bought a genuine Joye Ego kit for $40)
2. $150 could buy over a years supply of XL CE2's so you should be good to go for a little while
3. $400 of my favorite joose would last me 6 months vapping 4-5 ml per day. (Pssst.... You're suppose to vape it not drink it.)
4. $100 would cover my shipping cost if I order juice every week for over 6 months. Of course I only order once a month so $100 would cover my shipping charges for over 2 years.

Now, someone please explain how in the world you can be vaping for a month or two and be saving all this money. Come people, let's get real.

That's easy! Let's get real and take a person living in NY paying something like $11/pk and they smoke 2 packs a day that would be about $660/month. This same person buys an Ego kit ($40) and a 5 pk of CE2 cartos ($12) and a month supply of juice ($66).

$118 vs $660 is a boat load of money in anyones book. That's $6,500 a year savings.

One other thing...why do I have to wait a month to purchase a juice that I like...if you have a best seller...make more or buy more...poor business management for sure. How can you stay in business when you do not have your best seller in stock. Very sad?

Yes it is sad. The industry is in it's infancy so I can understand it to a point but this still burns my ars.

The Frankster speaks nothing but the truth and you can take that to the bank. Another thing, if you are a guy, please put a beautiful women in your signature, must I look at your mod.

My mommy always told me to never trust anyone that speaks in the 3rd person all the time and that banks are corrupt extensions of our corrupt government.

Sorry about the lack of a hot chick thing but I'll let you imagine that my avi is a female if that helps.


Just sayin

Edit: I forgot to mention that my break even date is somewhere in 2023.

 

[Vapeterry]

I know over the last 2 months i have spent a small fortune on vaping gear way more than i would have spent on my American Spirit Blacks @$64.00 a carton, at least 4 a month! Yes i have lived on ECF, i have no life so i have spent a lot of time on research but reading about vs experience in, is different. I am slowing down some on spending to learn more on using what i have. i know i am not totally there yet so will be buying some more stuff. I am very pleased with most of my last 4-6 weeks buying. For me i like vaping so much better it is an investment i am not regretting, tho i know i will not be spending as much in the months to come, & i will be DIYing.

 

[FRANKSTER]

Ummm 2 packs a day at $3.00/pk = $180/month not $120. There fore you lie and thus render your last statement about "taking it to the bank" null and void.



1. SB+2 batts+charger= $117 plus k-go = $50 Total : $167 not $200 (could have saved $10 and bought a genuine Joye Ego kit for $40)
2. $150 could buy over a years supply of XL CE2's so you should be good to go for a little while
3. $400 of my favorite joose would last me 6 months vapping 4-5 ml per day. (Pssst.... You're suppose to vape it not drink it.)
4. $100 would cover my shipping cost if I order juice every week for over 6 months. Of course I only order once a month so $100 would cover my shipping charges for over 2 years.



That's easy! Let's get real and take a person living in NY paying something like $11/pk and they smoke 2 packs a day that would be about $660/month. This same person buys an Ego kit ($40) and a 5 pk of CE2 cartos ($12) and a month supply of juice ($66).

$118 vs $660 is a boat load of money in anyones book. That's $6,500 a year savings.



Yes it is sad. The industry is in it's infancy so I can understand it to a point but this still burns my ars.



My mommy always told me to never trust anyone that speaks in the 3rd person all the time and that banks are corrupt extensions of our corrupt government.

Sorry about the lack of a hot chick thing but I'll let you imagine that my avi is a female if that helps.


Just sayin

Edit: I forgot to mention that my break even date is somewhere in 2023.

I made a mistake about the 120 versus the 180...you seem to have the answer for everything...Do you realize how arrogant you are, have some humility. If I say something happened to me, it happened. End of story. Why don't you write another post and correct all my grammar. You consider yourself an ultra member than have some consideration for people who are just starting out. I am sure you were a genius right out of the box.

 

[Shizzle]

it cost me a ton at first as i kept purchasing pv kits, not ever satisfied with their performance. i also spent several hundred on juice, always in search of the "holy grail." lastly, i spent a ton on cartos, because they'd get destroyed in 1-2 days with all the sweet and/or dark juices i was using.

then, i changed all that -- i now use only ego-t 1000mah batteries, only ego mega dual coil cartos, and only light colored and unsweet juices (mainly mint). my batteries have lasted over 6 months, and my cartos last anywhere from 1-2 *weeks*...i spend a maximum of $50 per month on vaping.

 

[swedishfish]

I spent a lot. But nowhere near as much as I spent trying (unsuccessfully) to quit smoking. I paid for the pills- Chandix was I think $300 ($130 a month), forget how much I spent on gum and patches.

At least this works. I could spend less and I did waste money trying out a bunch of crappy juice. But it's all a win for me because I quit smoking!

 

[Shilo]

I made a mistake about the 120 versus the 180...you seem to have the answer for everything...Do you realize how arrogant you are, have some humility. If I say something happened to me, it happened. End of story. Why don't you write another post and correct all my grammar. You consider yourself an ultra member than have some consideration for people who are just starting out. I am sure you were a genius right out of the box.

Frankster I am going to say this in the nicest way possible and I am sure you'll take it the wrong way--do you realize how YOU sound in your posts? Every thread you have started here was to complain about something or diss a vendor. When people try to help you you give what sounds like flippant dismissive answers or act like they are talking down to you.

 

[Della Cirque]

I haven't saved a dime. But I don't care...I'm enjoying my new hobby and being able to breathe as I walk to the mailbox.

 

[vapspaz]

I made a mistake about the 120 versus the 180...you seem to have the answer for everything...Do you realize how arrogant you are, have some humility. If I say something happened to me, it happened. End of story. Why don't you write another post and correct all my grammar. You consider yourself an ultra member than have some consideration for people who are just starting out. I am sure you were a genius right out of the box.

Tell ya what. I'll correct your grammer if you correct mine. And no I don't consider myself an Ultra member but if you ask my wife she'd tell ya that I'm a certain type of member.

Sorry if my response was a little rough around the edges for ya. There was a good bit of humor in there but I guess I didn't bring that across very well. I was just trying to point out that some people can in fact save a ton of money from the get go when they switch over to vapping. You and I along with a few hundred others around here are not so lucky though. I can tell you (not that I know everything) that over the long haul like others have said the cost savings is really there. I spent a chit load of $$ at first but now we have it down such that I'm spending roughly $18 per week for each of us. This doesn't include new battery's but they are lasting me over a year so far so it would be penny's per day. With the wife and I smoking about 3 packs a day between us we are still way ahead of the game. As you will be also once you find your perfect juice and PV set-up.

 

[swedishfish]

Completely off topic vapspaz, but that's a great banner! Did you make that?

 

[curiousJan]

I cringe at the thought of someone throwing out all that juice that I haven't tasted yet. I have found that many of these reviews are done with at least a lr atty dripped..and the taste is way different than using a carto.

Excellent point!! Different hardware produces different results. The taste of 1 juice will be different if using a LR atty, a regular atty, a horizontal coil carto, a dual-coil carto, a clearo, etc. There is NO way around that fact.

Jan

 

[minigoat]

Chandix was I think $300 ($130 a month), forget how much I spent on gum and patches.

I didn't last a week on chantix, what a completely terrible waste of money… At least for me.

 

[vapspaz]

Completely off topic vapspaz, but that's a great banner! Did you make that?

Thank you! Nope I don't have the time/skills to do such things. lol Ruppy had made it and when I saw it I begged him for it. Not that I had to beg. He had a post someplace offering folks the links if they wanted them.

 

[spicyed]

I never intended to save money. My banner is just a reference point for me, as I never really noticed what I spend on cigarettes or how many I smoked in a month. I have spent about double what I would have spent on cigarettes in my first 3 weeks but I have enough supplies for about 6 months barring a major disaster. (But that won't stop me from spending more!)

 

[simplyme82]

Frankster I am going to say this in the nicest way possible and I am sure you'll take it the wrong way--do you realize how YOU sound in your posts? Every thread you have started here was to complain about something or diss a vendor. When people try to help you you give what sounds like flippant dismissive answers or act like they are talking down to you.

I like him.. He's "that guy." The one who goes against the grain every now and then and plays devil's advocate. I think it keeps people on their toes. Gives people a different look at things. When this happens people start asking questions in the forum or to the vendors and if they receive enough pressure, changes will happen. Whether that be through price, putting out a decent product, or simplifying the product to the point where a person doesn't have to stumble across this site in order in order to get what they need the first time around.

I say keep it up Frankster! Just don't get pissy when people don't agree with you or see things exactly as you do.

 

[minigoat]

I say keep it up Frankster! Just don't get pissy when people don't agree with you or see things exactly as you do.

Hell ya keep it up… The problems and issues you have discussed lately, especially for those that are just starting out are real. Somebody is going to figure some of this out. Most likely make a little scratch on the side doing it.

 

[bluegrasslover]

I totally do not get your point...I started off just like everyone else and I do not purchase everything I see. I purchased the juice based on great reviews. I did not buy them aimlessly

To me juice reviews are totally pointless. Everyone has different tastes.
I don't think I am saving much yet but I just started 4 months ago and still in purchase mode.

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