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[Uncle Willie]

And many of them have no chance to sell off their stock. Almost 4k shops in WA state, most won't survive and supposed to take effect today. They begged for 30 days and were told no.

I don't know what the changes WA has done in the past .. some years ago, I used to order from Mt Baker, which, at the time, was kind of the darling of the liquid business .. then, it seemed like they moved to another state for some reason ..

It's sad for the WA B&M shops, yes .. on the flip side, there were probably some real deals out there if a customer was willing to take a Road Trip and hunt them down ..

 

[DavidOck]

Yeah, that was about the time that Provape (also in WA) was closing. Lots of flak at that time about what WA might do, and Mt. Baker made a pre-emptive move to the Phoenix area.

 

[rosesense]

I don't know what the changes WA has done in the past .. some years ago, I used to order from Mt Baker, which, at the time, was kind of the darling of the liquid business .. then, it seemed like they moved to another state for some reason ..

It's sad for the WA B&M shops, yes .. on the flip side, there were probably some real deals out there if a customer was willing to take a Road Trip and hunt them down ..

It happened so fast they didn't have much time to liquidate. Like the last few days with sales at ecx.

Mt Baker moved when the deeming regs were first started. They were already seeing issues with WA so they opted to move. I think most of us in the state saw the writing on the wall early on. WA is very much a nanny state and DOH has a big influence. Money is key, I have seen politicians work against safety if it met their agenda.

I decided to move shortly after the deeming regs came out.

 

[Uncle Willie]

It happened so fast they didn't have much time to liquidate. Like the last few days with sales at ecx.

Mt Baker moved when the deeming regs were first started. They were already seeing issues with WA so they opted to move. I think most of us in the state saw the writing on the wall early on. WA is very much a nanny state and DOH has a big influence. Money is key, I have seen politicians work against safety if it met their agenda.

I decided to move shortly after the deeming regs came out.

But the fine folks in WA do have legal weed, no .. ??

 

[rosesense]

But the fine folks in WA do have legal weed, no .. ??

Of course, big money there. I could tell stories about that crooked licensing but I won't.

 

[Diver9543]

What is Olive Extract? Surely not olive oil, or you would have said so. We do have a Wholefoods near by. I've never been it, but do you think they'll know what I'm talking about.

OK, It is Olive Leaf Extract, I left out the Leaf part of the name. I apologize for the mistake and any frustration that I caused.
Olive Leaf THROAT Spray, unflavored 2 pack
Here is an example of what I was referring to.

 

[DavidOck]

But the fine folks in WA do have legal weed, no .. ??

At least the new ban includes flavored thc products. So now, of course, EVERYbody will be buying it from the street, likely making the problem worse...

 

[Nermal]

OK, It is Olive Leaf Extract, I left out the Leaf part of the name. I apologize for the mistake and any frustration that I caused.
Olive Leaf THROAT Spray, unflavored 2 pack
Here is an example of what I was referring to.

No frustration, and many thanks for the information.

 

[rosesense]

At least the new ban includes flavored thc products. So now, of course, EVERYbody will be buying it from the street, likely making the problem worse...

Many are still focused on what the feds can/will do and Trump and Congress so forth. I am not sure it matters if the states do what WA and a few others have done. Will be basically banned, wiped out. I don't see WA ever reversing their position, do you? Why would a vendor even attempt to file a Pmta, if states ban it anyway. That seems like it would be a costly gamble.

 

[Anise]

I survived my heart ultrasound and my Stress test! If anyone hasn't had a chemical stress test before there's a part where you feel like you can't breathe. It's very unpleasant. But the last stress test alerted my dr. to my heart blockages so it is a useful test. I'm just glad it's over. Back to vaping!

 

[Bea-FL]

Janet I talked to my pharmacist today and he confirmed what you said. They recommend we gett this newest shingles vaccine.

I survived my heart ultrasound and my Stress test! If anyone hasn't had a chemical stress test before there's a part where you feel like you can't breathe. It's very unpleasant. But the last stress test alerted my dr. to my heart blockages so it is a useful test. I'm just glad it's over. Back to vaping!

I'm sorry you had a hard time. I had the same test a couple years ago but I had no problem with it. The only unpleasant thing about it was being a bit short of breath at one point.

I have a question about juice flavors. Do you all think the bans will cover menthol and koolada even though they are used outside of the vaping world?

 

[Anise]

I have a question about juice flavors. Do you all think the bans will cover menthol and koolada even though they are used outside of the vaping world?

I think only one ban so far includes menthol and as far as I can tell without having used it koolada provides more of a sensation rather than an actual flavoring. I think both will be safe. Good luck!

And thank you. I may have had a harder time because I do have blockages in my heart. I have a stent and they're using medication to try and clear the other 40% blocked artery.

 

[DavidOck]

Many are still focused on what the feds can/will do and Trump and Congress so forth. I am not sure it matters if the states do what WA and a few others have done. Will be basically banned, wiped out. I don't see WA ever reversing their position, do you? Why would a vendor even attempt to file a Pmta, if states ban it anyway. That seems like it would be a costly gamble.

Actually, one of the shops nearby (he actually has 3 in the area) IS a juice manufacturer and has filed his PMTA. What will come of that it is anyone's guess, although I'm sure we're all guessing nothing...

Supposedly the DoH (Department of Health) is to find out what's causing the problem, and then back off (yeah, right) on other items. But the Gov has charged the legislature to make it permanent next session....

I have a question about juice flavors. Do you all think the bans will cover menthol and koolada even though they are used outside of the vaping world?

For DIY, I don't expect more than maybe needing to find a new source, if current ones that are primarily focused on our uses go under.

 

[Bea-FL]

My mini Kanger TOGO just pooped out. It was my stealth vape mods for hospital stays, doctor offices, etc. I'd like to try something else this time around but still an AIO. What do you all like for stealth? I don't expect it to perform like my favorite 24/7 Provaris.

With as many hospital stays as I've had in the last couple years and at least one more in my near future I need a new stealth mod. The smaller the better so I can conceal it in my hand.

Edit: I'm also checking ECF AIO threads but I value yours opinion most.

 

[DavidOck]

Darn, can't help, Bea. Don't use any of the pod styles, but suspect there's one with your name on it... somewhere

 

[Uncle]

I guess I should have gone ahead and bought some stuff .. the deals were good, but as of now, the site has been decimated of nic from what I can see and my Cart is empty ..

Don't mean to rub it in . . . But I couldn't have passed the word along any more then I did . . . Just Sayin' . . .

I have a question about juice flavors. Do you all think the bans will cover menthol and koolada even though they are used outside of the vaping world?

Well they are/have been trying to Ban all Menthol cigarettes - so who really knows . . . The good thing is, they haven't yet - so like most of 'US" already did recently getting enough NIC, it probaly would behoove "Us" all to get - what Ya' think you might NEED before they do possibly BAN "Menthol" additives . . . Matter of fact, all though I got some extra premixed Koolada during the ecx sale, I think I just might get some of the Koolada powder like you did and some Menthol Crystal powder/premix too - to be on the safe side . . . Just Sayin' . . .

What do you all like for stealth?

Nothing in particular, since when I "stealth" vape I do not take a deep "toke" and will usually exhale into the shirt that I am wearing . . . Also when I've been in the hospital - I make sure the door to the room is closed so I can hear someone coming in then exhale & hide the MOD under the sheet or the ditty bag I have everything store in. Oh Yea - I have a small bottle of "febreze to go" (Extra Strength) also - that I keep on the side table to spray the room/lavatory even if I haven't been vaping so they get use to the smell . . . Just A Suggestion . . .

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[Janet H]

Good morning. It's a little chilly this morning and time for me to bring in some plants for the winter. Sad to see that part of summer over, but I'm enjoying the cooler weather!

Good morning everyone!

I'm off to have a chemical stress test. Not looking forward to it

I survived my heart ultrasound and my Stress test! If anyone hasn't had a chemical stress test before there's a part where you feel like you can't breathe. It's very unpleasant. But the last stress test alerted my dr. to my heart blockages so it is a useful test. I'm just glad it's over. Back to vaping!

I bet you're relieved that's over with. Now lets hope the results are news for you.

 

[rosesense]

My mini Kanger TOGO just pooped out. It was my stealth vape mods for hospital stays, doctor offices, etc. I'd like to try something else this time around but still an AIO. What do you all like for stealth? I don't expect it to perform like my favorite 24/7 Provaris.

With as many hospital stays as I've had in the last couple years and at least one more in my near future I need a new stealth mod. The smaller the better so I can conceal it in my hand.

Edit: I'm also checking ECF AIO threads but I value yours opinion most.

Everyone raves about the minifit. I haven't used one but I think Fran and JC use them.

 

[Janet H]

My mini Kanger TOGO just pooped out. It was my stealth vape mods for hospital stays, doctor offices, etc. I'd like to try something else this time around but still an AIO. What do you all like for stealth? I don't expect it to perform like my favorite 24/7 Provaris.

With as many hospital stays as I've had in the last couple years and at least one more in my near future I need a new stealth mod. The smaller the better so I can conceal it in my hand.

Edit: I'm also checking ECF AIO threads but I value yours opinion most.

I've never used the really small ones but I googled Kanger TOGO and it looks like Vapor Authority might have them.

 

[Bea-FL]

Good morning all

And thank you. I may have had a harder time because I do have blockages in my heart. I have a stent and they're using medication to try and clear the other 40% blocked artery.

I'm sure that's it. Hubs had a bit of a hard time wirh it too because at that time he had several heart blockages. Good luck with yours.

Darn, can't help, Bea. Don't use any of the pod styles, but suspect there's one with your name on it... somewhere

Actually I don't want pods. Don't like them.

Nothing in particular, since when I "stealth" vape I do not take a deep "toke" and will usually exhale into the shirt that I am wearing . . . Also when I've been in the hospital - I make sure the door to the room is closed so I can hear someone coming in then exhale & hide the MOD under the sheet or the ditty bag I have everything store in. Oh Yea - I have a small bottle of "febreze to go" (Extra Strength) also - that I keep on the side table to spray the room/lavatory even if I haven't been vaping so they get use to the smell . . . Just A Suggestion . . . ​

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LOL here!!! Exactly what I do when I'm in the hospital except for the febreeze. Since I vape a very mild menthol there is no odor.

Also the advantage of the closed door is they knock before they open it