Low Resistance Magnum Atomizers

[cos]

Debook
In answer to your question about if i find any difference between 4.5 atty at 5 volt and 3.7 atty at 1.6something (magnum atty is 1.6 something). But the woody i was told comes with a 1.6 something magnum atty and the ones that Drew is selling single are HV atty 1.50. he said most will not be able to tell the difference it is so slight. he also said but then there are some experts that will see the slight difference lol.
anyway i really cant tell any difference in TH. really anfd if there is i dont notice any. But i taste the flavor better with 3.7volt. and so you know Pete54 was the person who told me about the 4.5 atty combo. wasnt me. just telling you so you know. i know nothing about this stuff. so being that Pate lives very close to me he gave me a 4.5 atty and a high drain AW 1600 mah battery. so he gives me these ideas. like today i really needed some nicotine and wanted great TH down to my lungs. you know what i mean. so i was gonna use the two 3 volt tenergys and the 4.5 atty but i changed my mind and went with a 14500 and the Low Res atty 1.6 something on another mod i have and that kinda satisfied my cravings. man i really hot boxed that sucker. one vape after the other lol.
Then i realized i may blow the atty if i keep hitting it like this so i slowed down. I used a KR808 carto for the TH i wanted. anyway i think i answered your question. to me its very close but on the 6 volt the flavor is less. maybe others may feel different so thats just me. Good Luck in your decision to get the woody and the mini Xhaler. you will love the woody its just beautiful. sorry this is so long. i talk to much lol.

 

[jazzguy]

Right, and doing so could cause an unsafe condition if the wires aren't rated for that amount of current.

The screwdriver shorts it out why...because it has no resistance. Is not any complete circuit basically a controlled short circuit? What I was wondering was at what resistance does it become a short circuit... .5ohms, .02ohms, .001ohms. See what I mean?

Good question, and one I don't have a definitive answer for.

I know there are minds here much more educated than mine in this realm, but I can tell you that back in the day, I competed in car audio competitions. I'm not sure where that technology stands today (I'm positive a lot of changes and improvements were made since then) but we regularly employed amplifiers loaded at 1/4 or 1/8 Ω. At that point it's not a short circuit provided the electrical 'infrastructure' could handle it. You need to back it up with thick quality cable, plenty of battery and capacitor reserve, very high output alternators, etc. But if you tried to do that on an amplifier that wasn't designed for it, or without adequate support infrastructure, it became for all intents and purposes a short circuit.

All that to say this: I don't believe there is a DEFINITIVE answer as to what resistance constitutes a short circuit, but that it depends on many other variables.

If someone else that knows more about this stuff than I do cares to correct me, please do so!

 

[Pete54]

Hey cos. I was saying I'll give you my Excellerator CR2's not my Tenergy CR123's. I still use the CR123's and 4.5Ω atty for my HV vaping. The only device I have that uses CR2's is my BB which I now use exclusively with a 14500 and a 1.5Ω atty.

 

[DaMulta]

This atomizer just ROCKS is all there is too it. It rocks in the woodie, with the SB/BB, and with stock 510 batteries.


Really if you want to try what a high voltage device is. Just buy one of these atoimzers, and use it on your stock batteries. The only difference is that the bigger mods will run longer.

 

[debook]

A short circuit is a zero resistance condition that allows runaway current which generally causes overheating and equipment damage.

Nico I'm not sure what point you are trying to make, but the same 'rules' apply to the LR atty's that apply with all mods - always always always use protected batteries that monitor for overdischarge, change them often and dispose at the first sign of anything unusual (i.e. won't charge to full voltage,etc...) High drain capability & safe chemistry batteries are good things too. That is what protects against battery explosions as seen on other threads on this board when people have used unprotected batteries on high voltage mods. Using a lower resistance atomizer will increase the current, but is not equivalent to sticking a screwdriver in an electrical socket. Hope this answers your question.

 

[cos]

Hey cos. I was saying I'll give you my Excellerator CR2's not my Tenergy CR123's. I still use the CR123's and 4.5Ω atty for my HV vaping. The only device I have that uses CR2's is my BB which I now use exclusively with a 14500 and a 1.5Ω atty.

Hey Pete i know what ya meant. yeh the excellerators. i was just teasing ya. but your right last nite took out the GG and put a 14500 in there with a 1.618LR atty and it was golden. really no need for me to go any higher anymore. But there will be times when i will want to just for the hell of it lol.
enjoy this rainy day. Going to birthday party now. i am only vapor there and everyone looks at me like there he goes puffing that wacky weed again. frigan people are ...... i tell ya lol. And i am dead serious when i say this. its unbelieveable. happy vaping all

 

[lotus14]

This atomizer just ROCKS is all there is too it. It rocks in the woodie, with the SB/BB, and with stock 510 batteries.


Really if you want to try what a high voltage device is. Just buy one of these atoimzers, and use it on your stock batteries. The only difference is that the bigger mods will run longer.

Exactly right DaMulta - these 1.5 ohm attys rock.

They definitely hit as well as a standard Joye 510 does at 5v. The only question left is how long they will last.

I've used mine in 2 mods that use 14500s and on a 510 XL batt. On the weaker of the 2 mods it's perfect. On the stronger hitting one (with the flaky switch) and the 510 XL batt they hit pretty hard, gotta keep it extra wet. Only had 'em since yesterday, so still breaking the first one in good.

The only reason for a big batt mod now is if you don't want to change batteries out, maybe twice a day. Not a big deal for me - I'd rather have the smaller mod.

I'm still reserving one mod for 5v to use with KR8s for when I go out and don't want to drip.

Also, I can't say enough good things about the drip tips. Most comfortable tips my winter chapped lips have ever met! Even if you don't drip through them, give 'em a try for the comfort factor and the sexy curves

One thing about the drip tips though. They're made to fit 901s, Kr8s, and 510s, but the 510 is a pretty tight fit. I removed the stock o-ring and replaced it with a #60 and it's perfect for the 510 atty, LR or otherwise. Get a pack at Lowes in the plumbing section for a buck.

 

[d4rk3]

I should have these by Tuesday at the latest, but I am hoping for tomorrow!

 

[nicotime]

A short circuit is a zero resistance condition that allows runaway current which generally causes overheating and equipment damage.

Nico I'm not sure what point you are trying to make, but the same 'rules' apply to the LR atty's that apply with all mods - always always always use protected batteries that monitor for overdischarge, change them often and dispose at the first sign of anything unusual (i.e. won't charge to full voltage,etc...) High drain capability & safe chemistry batteries are good things too. That is what protects against battery explosions as seen on other threads on this board when people have used unprotected batteries on high voltage mods. Using a lower resistance atomizer will increase the current, but is not equivalent to sticking a screwdriver in an electrical socket. Hope this answers your question.

I wasn't really trying to make a point debook...just trying to understand the concept more. I mean, why not just go for broke and make a .5 ohm atty or zero ohm you know. I do understand the battery protection circuit, was just wondering about the safety aspect of it considering the recent explosions hysteria.

Thanks for the additional info debook.

 

[lotus14]

I wasn't really trying to make a point debook...just trying to understand the concept more. I mean, why not just go for broke and make a .5 ohm atty or zero ohm you know. I do understand the battery protection circuit, was just wondering about the safety aspect of it considering the recent explosions hysteria.

Thanks for the additional info debook.

Maybe the Electrical Calculator will help you.

The important number is watts (heat) in the atty. 8-10 watts is widely considered to be the sweet spot - great vapor without a burnt taste.

A .5 ohm atty at 4v would produce 32 watts 8-o

Even if you built an .5 ohm atty that didn't fry instantly, the juice would be REALLY burnt tasting

 

[nicotime]

Interesting....thanks for the link lotus...I think I'll be ready for my electrical engineering degree soon...ya think? LOL

But seriously...electronics has always intrigued me...I'm getting there.

 

[lotus14]

Interesting....thanks for the link lotus...I think I'll be ready for my electrical engineering degree soon...ya think? LOL

But seriously...electronics has always intrigued me...I'm getting there.

Soon nicotime, soon!

Seriously, all these different devices and batteries and voltages and attys and ohms can be very mysterious. You just have to get an idea of what does what, and then find what works best for you.

 

[EasyVapin]

So, has anybody used these with the eGo/Tornado yet? I just realized these are exactly the same thing so I'm on the verge of no longer waiting for Janty to get their stock in and going ahead with a Tornado order from TW, considering they have 350+ in stock & their kit comes with some sort of adapter which I'm assuming will make my normal 510 chargers compatible with these batteries!

Just wanted to see if I could get any input on these with this combination before I make the order. Would hate to get mine in, realize it's taking it to another level if I have a LR atty, then go to the site and see they're out of stock!

 

[Drozd]

So, has anybody used these with the eGo/Tornado yet? I just realized these are exactly the same thing so I'm on the verge of no longer waiting for Janty to get their stock in and going ahead with a Tornado order from TW, considering they have 350+ in stock & their kit comes with some sort of adapter which I'm assuming will make my normal 510 chargers compatible with these batteries!

Just wanted to see if I could get any input on these with this combination before I make the order. Would hate to get mine in, realize it's taking it to another level if I have a LR atty, then go to the site and see they're out of stock!

I'm using one on an eGo currently..and it works very very well...though I havent been keeping an eye on the clock to see if it affects or shortens the battery life any..

 

[EasyVapin]

Thanks for the update. I'm assuming you used the atty that Janty provided first, so I'm wondering if there's any kind of noticeable difference when you're using the LR Magnum, as opposed to the standard Janty 510 atty?

 

[Drozd]

Thanks for the update. I'm assuming you used the atty that Janty provided first, so I'm wondering if there's any kind of noticeable difference when you're using the LR Magnum, as opposed to the standard Janty 510 atty?

Oh yeah there is...lower resistance on a 3.7V battery or even a 3.1V like the eGo..theres a noticeable difference in both volume and warmth of the vapor..it does awesomely...like I said though I havent been watching (been too busy vaping) to really monitor and see if the change would affect how long the battery lasts between charges..

EDIT: but then again I've always been pleased with every product I've gotten from Nhaler.. the only thing that was a little off is the new drip tips if you're a dripper..they're just ever so slightly larger than the atty so on the eGo the cone won't slide over the tip..so you have to put the tip on after you have the cone in place, or use it on the atty to screw the atty in, and you have to take it off to remove the cone...nothing at all major.

 

[MastiffMike]

Drozd (or anyone), how does the lower resistance attys lifespan compare to "regular" and HV attys?

 

[d4rk3]

Drozd (or anyone), how does the lower resistance attys lifespan compare to "regular" and HV attys?

I do remember Drew saying in the thread about the Magnum that he's made one last 5 months I believe. That was a while ago so maybe even longer...he did say you need to break them in for a while.

 

[sprakkattak]

This is exclusive at NHALER.COM

 

[KuiHiggins]

This atomizer just ROCKS is all there is too it. It rocks in the woodie, with the SB/BB, and with stock 510 batteries.


Really if you want to try what a high voltage device is. Just buy one of these atoimzers, and use it on your stock batteries. The only difference is that the bigger mods will run longer.

I saw another member say something along the lines of they wouldn't be using these atty's inside their TorneGo because of the slow draw. That's what I was buying these atty's for, my Tornado, and I'm wondering if it's still going to work the wonders that I originally thought it would.

edit: I see other users are getting great hits when using these on their TorneGo's, no need to wonder now...