LR 801 Shorty

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Hey Isaac,
I meant to ask if these have 2 or 4 holes?
They just don't leak at all.
I went as high as 6 drops and no leaking. My reg 801 (4 holes) leak even if I put 2 drops in them.
Stu

+1.... I noticed the same thing, mine has never leaked. It's a drippers dream atty.

If the only difference between LR801 2.0 and the Mini is the top length, then it has 4 holes. I know because I took off the black ring on my long LR801 2.0 atty.
 

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What drip tip is acceptable by lr801 shorty?
How about 801 delrin tip from Super T?

The current stock of the Mini LR801s is not t-tip compatible as the bridge is too close to the top. You you can remove the bridge in order to use a t-tip/drip tip or you can use a whistle tip.

Isaac has redesigned them to be about 4mm longer and be drip tip compatible. He announced that he will have the new stock in less than 2 weeks. Perfection is on the way! Can't wait!!!
 
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Hey Isaac,
I meant to ask if these have 2 or 4 holes?
They just don't leak at all.
I went as high as 6 drops and no leaking. My reg 801 (4 holes) leak even if I put 2 drops in them.
Stu
Lol Your making me expose some trademarks here :p
No, I kid, I don't mind all that much. The answer to your question is not 2 or 4-hole styles., but 3. :D


Thank you for the answers Vman!
 

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Lol Your making me expose some trademarks here :p
No, I kid, I don't mind all that much. The answer to your question is not 2 or 4-hole styles., but 3. :D


Thank you for the answers Vman!

Trade secrets? I didn't exactly see it that way. I was just trying to help you minimize the work load. Sorry :oops:
 

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Ok what am I doing wrong :( I used the mini 801 for 5 days with the dripper and no problems with leaking. Then I let it sit for 3 days and when I put it back on it started leaking. Took it off, blew it out and it still leaked. Tried rinsing it out, letting it sit a day to make sure it was dry, did a dry burn and it was good for a day and now it's leaking again :( The dripper only puts 2 drops at a time and I only hit it once, the take several long hard puffs, when it starts to taste dry again I use the dripper. I wouldn't think that would be enough to make it leak, but it is.

Ok gang, I'm open for suggestions. Thanks in advance!


Happy vaping!!
 

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In all honesty WWay, dripping = leaking at one point or another during the vaping session.

I used to say if your leaking you are either dripping too much or not vaping enough. I would very much like to re-visit my position on that. I now believe we are dripping too much, especially on seasoned attys. I don't mixed my flavours so it is even more predominant with me.

I was dripping Dark Vapure last night at HV, which I do most evenings. After I set my PV down for the night (I am doing a battery test) as usual I stood it on end and low and behold a large pool collected at the bottom of the PV at least 5-6 drops. Wow! I never thought it would be that much. I personally think that we are getting to use to the "freshness" of the liquid we use, and over drip not using the entire liquid that has colected in the cup. One drop of liquid should provide anywhere from 5-10 hits (so they say) IMO 5-8. During the course of our sessions I believe we over drip because we drip when taste is diminished, vice when vapour production decreases as we should. The liquid that was not vaped collects in the cup and is constantly being expeosed to heat, becoming "funky". I call this spent liquid. A simple blow out of the atty from the mouth end will freshen up the atty. Of course this is wasteful, but hey, if it ain't pleasurable why are we dripping. Re prime the atty with its usual 6-8 drops and go from there.

I can vape at 6V using a cart, because of the cart mod I use. AAMOF I get a similar satisfaction using carts and hence why I am not a dripper per se. I will openly admit that I do not get the intense flavour of dripping, but that has nothing to do with the cart but the atty. I drip on 801s and vape 510s, which as we know provide reckless TH and vapour at the cost of flavour. When I get back from vacation I will be trying to find a suitable mod for my 801 carts. VM seems to be on the right track with his BFM, if he can do it, so can I since I make the majority of the juices I vape. BTW the only time I drip is during the evening or when the need to chase a demon away.
 

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I personally think that we are getting to use to the "freshness" of the liquid we use, and over drip not using the entire liquid that has colected in the cup. One drop of liquid should provide anywhere from 5-10 hits (so they say) IMO 5-8. During the course of our sessions I believe we over drip because we drip when taste is diminished, vice when vapour production decreases as we should.

+1

I noticed that long ago. My guess is that the flavoring burns MUCH quicker than either the PG or VG. To be honest, as much as I don't like maintenance, I would rather wipe, disassemble and blow out than sacrifice flavor. And that is what I do. =)

I still contest that we are adapting our atomizers for dripping. They just aren't designed that way but it's the best alternative for many of us. The true "dripping atomizer" hasn't been invented yet. Perhaps, some kind of nickel mesh that surrounds the coil, much like a carto does. An "open cartomizer", if you will.

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+1

I noticed that long ago. My guess is that the flavoring burns MUCH quicker than either the PG or VG. To be honest, as much as I don't like maintenance, I would rather wipe, disassemble and blow out than sacrifice flavor. And that is what I do. =)

I still contest that we are adapting our atomizers for dripping. They just aren't designed that way but it's the best alternative for many of us. The true "dripping atomizer" hasn't been invented yet. Perhaps, some kind of nickel mesh that surrounds the coil, much like a carto does. An "open cartomizer", if you will.

(sorry for the derail)
Couldn't agree more Ritchie.

I wonder how the 306 is fairing out in that dept. Or is it just hooplah?
 

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I agree - I am really liking these LR801 shorties! My favorite has been the 901s, but I had Isaac throw a couple of these in with my last order and I'm glad I did. I use 100% VG and only drip. (I'm using a Super T drip tip-I just don't push it in tight) This thing makes massive amounts of vapor. I find myself waving my hand to clear the air! Haven't had any leaking at all. Thanks Isaac!
 

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LOL Vapor... you just opened yourself a big can of.... never ever say never. I've had 'em leak both ways.

The reason I explained what I explained is what other folks have come to experience as well, especially when it comes to high VG juices, where flavour dissipates more rapidly. Dekang not so much so, but then vapour production is also decrease. vaping success is a very fine line, and an extremely frustrating one to handle all the variances and nuances thrown at us daily. e,g just the delta of the 801 shorty and regular 801. Two very dissimilar attys in both aesthetics and vapability.
 

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Couldn't agree more Ritchie.

I wonder how the 306 is fairing out in that dept. Or is it just hooplah?

I haven't tried the LR 306 but I did try some standard ones some time ago. I liked being able to dip, but the TH was much less than a standard 510 on the 3 that I tried. LR 306s are on my list. =)
 

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LOL Vapor... you just opened yourself a big can of.... never ever say never. I've had 'em leak both ways...

It looks like you are inviting me to present more details, and I am happy to do so. I will start out by expanding what I stated in my previous post in order to effectively help out those who struggle the way I used to:

Even though I used to have major issues with juice leaking out of my atties, I have not experienced leakage even once, not a drop, in the past couple of months since I changed/modified what I do and how I do it. This is not my opinion, this is a fact based on my current vaping habits.

Switched, I agree that atties can leak even if left in horizontal position, even though less likely. But that can only happen if there is more juice in the atty then there should be while it's resting. If someone has a tendency to heavily flood their atties, they will leak no matter what. But it takes a greater volume of juice causing the atty to leak in a horizontal position than vs. the vertical position.

What components are necessary in order to achieve leakage? Juice and gravity. A dry atty doesn't leak since it doesn't have any juice. It is also true that an atty containing some juice, close to the amount it takes to prime it, doesn't leak either. Have you ever left your atty upside down on a napkin overnight only to find out in the morning that no juice dripped out? Yet after rolling up some tissue and stuffing it in the cart-end of the atty you find that the tissue pulled a decent amount of juice out of it.

There is a certain amount of juice that will not leak out despite the gravitational pull and whether the juice is PG or VG based. The trick is in figuring out how to let your atty rest properly, IMO easier to achieve for drippers than for cart users.

When I first started dripping, gurgle and sizzle sounds, too much or not enough juice, were all too common. For newbies, trying to figure out how much juice is ideal is like trying to figure out how much oil you need to add to your car engine without a dip-stick. After a while I was able to master the art of dripping and finally started feeling like an expert on the subject since I didn't have to think about it consciously anymore. But I still experienced occasional leakage from my atties after letting my PV rest for a few minutes. I always used to leave my PVs standing up on end with too much juice in the atty. Naturally, the juice leaked. Out of frustration I came out with a simple solution: Lay the PV down with a minimum amount of juice in the atty! And it has worked flawlessly for the past two months!

Here is what works for me: Starting with a primed atty, I add 2-4 drops depending on the atty type and vape until the taste slightly changes. If I'm satisfied, I will lay the unit down. If not, I add more drops and keep on vaping. But I only lay the unit down when the flavor slightly changes or is about to change. The change in flavor is my "dip-stick" helping me gauge how much juice is in the atty. If the atty has too much juice, it might leak even in the horizontal position while resting, especially the 901. Another thing I've found extremely useful is to turn my PV upside down for 20-30 seconds when the flavor starts to change. This enables the juice which is trapped in the bottom of the cup to find its way to the top where it can be used.

My reason for posting this is not to prove a point since I don't feel than it's necessary. I simply hope that this can help someone cut the learning curve and start enjoying benefits of vaping rather than having to deal with headaches of vaping.

Happy Vaping! :)
 
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