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ccure

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Thank you guys!

Your answers are what I needed to be sure that I will not mess up with this project.

I actually went to talk directly with Smoore factory and so far their service has been just great. They will be shipping my first trial order next week. M201, M401, M402 and M403; one kit for each plus some accessories and about 300 carts.

They also sent me some High Quality photos to be used in my web page and offer to me any support that I need.

I will let you know as soon as I got my first order how it goes.

Now, I have been using the e-cig that I have in shopping centers, restaurants, dinner parties with friends and the reactions has been great! Even I used it inside a museum!

Everyone wants one of this devices, smoker and non-smokers. Smokers for their personal use; non-smokers to give it to a family related or so. As a matter of fact, the non-smokers have been more eager to get one than the smokers! So, I think I will push my marketing campaign harder to the non-smoker people first.

I just hope that our “FDA” here in Colombia will not act as the FDA and Health Canada are doing. A slim hopes anyway. At least I will have some time before it happens.

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Elwin

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I just wanted to say thanks to Fedor and all of the rest of you for providing so much info on the M4 series. I can see that this will be my next purchase. It will be a while before I can actually pony up the money for what I usually start with. (I'll probably get 2 starter kits, 2 or 3 extra atomisers, and 15 to 20 carts to start with.) But since I've already blown my "nicotine" budget for this month, it'll be a while.
No problems there, since that will give them time to get past their holiday (I believe this is the Qingming Festival), and get caught up with all their backlog that usually follows.

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P.S. Fedor:

Be sure to let us know when you get their new e-liquid in and tell us how you like it.
 

Fedor

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Got my 401, 7 days, holy crap !!!! I'm stoked.

Anyhow, charging for the 8 hours, and the led is flashing from red to green, and back .... Is that normal ?

Yeah...its normal with the USB cord and charger type. After the first 8 hour charge, you only need to charge it no more than 3 hours. Thats what i was told but i just remove it after it flashes red/ green. It works fine for me.

I was told that the Micro USB charger is not really stable (don't know what that means) and although it can charge faster, they no longer provide it for retail orders. So its the USB cord for us, which is fine with me.
 

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I just wanted to say thanks to Fedor and all of the rest of you for providing so much info on the M4 series. I can see that this will be my next purchase. It will be a while before I can actually pony up the money for what I usually start with. (I'll probably get 2 starter kits, 2 or 3 extra atomisers, and 15 to 20 carts to start with.) But since I've already blown my "nicotine" budget for this month, it'll be a while.
No problems there, since that will give them time to get past their holiday (I believe this is the Qingming Festival), and get caught up with all their backlog that usually follows.

:)



P.S. Fedor:

Be sure to let us know when you get their new e-liquid in and tell us how you like it.

I don't even know about this festival and i've lived in China for a while. You are right about their backlog. They seem to be always having too much to handle but the longest delay i have experienced or heard of is around 3-4 days. It don't happen frequently though and i hope the new expansion will eliminate this. All in all, they are still pretty efficient.

I will keep you guys updated on the liquid but i do think that they are all pretty much the same. I buy from them cos i can buy a bunch of stuff + Liquid and still pay $15 for shipping.
 

Chevron07

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Just got some hardware in and the bridge on the atomizer is much larger than the one I got a few weeks ago. Think this is this a change, or inconsistency in production? So far, I haven't noticed a difference in performance.

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ruuku

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Both atomizers look exactly the same. The only difference that i see is that the EVO thread for the battery is all silver (aluminum?) whereas the Smoore's are brass. I don't really see any performance differences, but haven't used the EVO enough to be sure.

Chevron-
I got the same batch of atomizers as you... however the atomizers that i ordered from PS have the smaller wick. I agree that there seems to be no performance change... I did not even realize the difference till you posted the pic.
 

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Okay, I just noticed that there may be a performance advantage to the beefier wicks.

This is what the inner cart would look like if you used the atomizer to push it back in after toping off with the old atomizer:

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The inner cart completely restricts air flow.

This is the same situation with the new atomizer:

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If you notice, you can't completely cut off air flow with the new wick. It's almost too big to fit in the inner cart, and it's not as deep in the atomizer collar.

Hmm... I may stop using my paper clip to get the inner cart back in and see if my theory holds up.
 

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I just ordered the M-402 as I will be using this as a smoke cessation aid. Can anyone tell me about the lead levels listed? I'm not sure of health effects from the stated levels.

***royalsmokers.com/ROHS-Report.pdf

here are some more testing reports on their c-cigs.

*** royalsmokers.com/Certificate.html

Sure would like to put my mind at ease. I do appreciate the fact that they post their test results and that they have CONDUCTED tests.
 

ruuku

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If you were looking for a longer cart life (time before refilling/swapping out carts), then i would have suggested the M201. I find myself constantly topping off my 401 carts. The trade off is that it only takes a few drops to fill the cart, and the 401/2 does a decent job of draining the cart. The size on the 201 is also huge turnoff for some... I got 3 friends to buy e-cigs (401/2s), all at least pack-a-day smokers, and none of them would even consider buying a 201 (even though i can create clouds of vapor). The 401 replicates an analog much better than smoking a "pen"
 
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Well the charger comprised of a usb-> battery adapter and a wall outlet -> USB, so all you would need to do is use a DC car adapter with a USB out (can be found most anywhere Walmart ect.) and presto! A car charger. This is pretty much your most simple and cost effective solution. If you find that the M401/2 is a keeper (I'm pretty satisfied with it thus far) you'll probably want to buy another charger (or two) then you can leave one at home, one in your car, office...ect.

Deacon please let us know how Absolutey's liquid is... Fedor has an order of it coming, but a second opinion may not be a bad idea.

As for the flavor option, I'm not too fond of any prefilled/ready made carts after using stand alone e-liquid. Its hard to base a "flavor profile" off of a prefilled cart. There's a huge difference between the "coffee" i received from E-Smokey Treats and the prefilled one. If i had based an opinion off just the cart I would have totally ignored a (possibly) great liquid (The E-smokey Treats coffee flavor is actually my current fave.. a really light coffee flavor, more like smelling roasted beans rather than drinking a sweet coffee drink/eating coffee candy). There are other factors as well. Perhaps the main one is the E-Cig as a substitution for analogs. Did you smoke menthol? If so you probably want to check out the mint/menthol offerings. So far I haven't found a true replacement for Non-menthol analogs, but during the time i was quitting analogs and vaping, i found the flavor of Parliament Lights quite disgusting. Also "taste" is quite subjective. There are a HUGE number of people that love Puresmoker's Riskee. I found it good, but def. not my favorite. Perhaps your best bet is to try sampler packs. There are a few sites that have these in low quantities (Mls), so if you don't like a flavor, your not out +$10/per bottle. Lastly, this forum is a huge source of knowledge....read, read, read. Like i said before, taste is subjective, but if 20+ people say a juice is nasty, I'm probably not going to order it.

Let us know if you have any problems (the resident Smoore expert Fedor will probably be able to answer most of them), and happy vaping.
 
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Ruuku, I will be sure to post what I feel about each one after I empty the carts that come with it.

Fortunately for me I switch the analogs that I smoke quite often so flavor wont be an issue for *me* quitting analogs. While my NPro was working good and I had carts I rarely wanted an analog (and the carts it came with tasted like caramel popcorn, not 'traditional' like it said. Lol). For me its more the act of smoking and the oral fixation.

I seriously cannot wait till my M-401 arrives.
 

gendolookin

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i'm having some problems with my 401. I have the Npro, and the throat hit from the npro is a lot stronger. The 401 just seems to be air. Its just not satisfying. The first couple of days were GREAT!!! I accidently dropped it once, but didn't immediately notice a differnce...could i have ruined the Atomiser??? It still vapes good, but it doesn't produce as much vape as my npro.

The only reason i'm asking is because i heard the 401's were MUCH better. I got mine from puresmoker, should i get a new atomiser????

BTW. John here from louisville, ky.. Been vaping about a month. Still not able to give up analogs yet. I was hopefull when i first got my 401, but it just isn't the same now. Any thoughts??? Thanks
 
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