"MANY PEOPLE HAVE HAD THOSE THINGS BLOW UP IN THEIR FACES!" " SO I WON'T TRY ONE"

[Warren E. Justice]

I hear this stuff almost every time I am asked by someone in the room who is smoking a pack or more of cigs per day. I always say: " I don't think that happened.. I think it is a old wives tale created to give smokers an excuse to avoid the need to make a change. I have allowed friends to use a spare and they like it ( they smoke all of the fluid) and then they hear that they have to buy more and the hesitate. I sit with them and compare the price of vaping and tell them that I don't feel the tiredness or experience a cough unless I use a liquid that is too high in nicotine or is menthol. ( That is another question WHY DO THEY MAKE THAT STUFF WHY NOT JUST GET A JAR OF VICKS VAPO RUB AND SMOKE IT SOMEHOW)
And I do wonder if that occurrence that we have all heard about actually happened or if it is a outright myth or it has some truth to its base? I know it did not explode unless someone filled it with gasoline or something was added that was not compatible to the particular vape unit.
They DO get hot and you must let them cool but "BLOWING UP" is a big step from getting hot. Anyone know of such an occurrence that was documented by a reliable source? Let me know.
I used to say I was going to quit smoking after I finished the next pack of the next carton. I did quit and smoking had caused such vascular/cardiac disease that I had a 3x bypass after NOT SMOKING for 16 years.
I hated the way they made me feel and each time I smoked I got sick. As soon as I felt better-- I lit up another cig.
I have experience absolutely NO negative effects anything like that since I started vaping 3 years ago.
Let me know? Warren Justice

 

[Bunnykiller]

welll... there have been incedents of the battery venting in a spectacular way, but 99% of the time it was user error which caused the calamity... using the wrong charger, wrong type of battery used in a mech mod, too low of ohms, direct shorts, and even some of the regulated mods have had issues.... but did you know over 80,000 people each year just in the USA alone get seriously hurt by lawn mowers... its safer to vape than to mow your lawn...

 

[Frenchfry1942]

Change can be scary. Do it with a little bit of fore-thought, safety, and adjust as needed. Some people let fear run their lives.

Greatness has no fear. It was raised to break barriers and try new things.

 

[crxess]

Not to rain on your post parade, but wow that was a mess to read.

Glad you found Vaping as a positive experience!

Yes there have been several casualties(serious injuries) from inexperience and extreme carelessness with different Devices.

There have also been many cheaply made Ego style Battery explosions. Often do to poor charging devices, or battery abuse.
Best to do some research yourself to become armed with usable knowledge rather than personal assumption.

You can always point out how many careless house fires and forest fires are started annually as well as the millions of deaths which have occurred from Smoking.

Vape safe and enjoy!

 

[stevegmu]

Most of the mods most vapers use I wouldn't trust near my face...

 

[Frenchfry1942]

I do notice that things, more often, occur when the buyer goes for the cheaper model.

 

[smacuser]

Not to rain on your post parade, but wow that was a mess to read.

English can be a second language.

 

[wheelie]

I have seen it all. People with ripped battery wrappers and over half of it missing. They give me a silly little grin when I rewrap it for them in about 30 seconds. Education is the key because a lot of people have no clue. Vaping takes work and not near as easy as lighting a smoke. Most people do not want to invest the time needed to learn safe vaping. CHEERS!

 

[stevegmu]

I have seen it all. People with ripped battery wrappers and over half of it missing. They give me a silly little grin when I rewrap it for them in about 30 seconds. Education is the key because a lot of people have no clue. Vaping takes work and not near as easy as lighting a smoke. Most people do not want to invest the time needed to learn safe vaping. CHEERS!

Like most consumer goods, most people assume they meet certain safety standards, but such is not the case in the vape world for the vast majority of products...

 

[Bad Ninja]

Most of the mods most vapers use I wouldn't trust near my face...

I actually agree with this.
One of the reasons I don't like to go to B&Ms or vape meets.

 

[crxess]

crxess said: ↑
Not to rain on your post parade, but wow that was a mess to read.

="smacuser, post: 16763663, member: 81064"
English can be a second language.

Type seemed clearly English, whether the poster is or not. Context is the concern. Some Vape and wonder. Some Vape and wander.

A 3 year Vaper should realize they are vaping and not reference smoke, in My Opinion.
A 3 year Vaper attempting to inform others should be informed, in My opinion.

Glad to see you can pluck single lines from an entire post to provide yourself opportunity.
Perhaps more similar?

 

[Ryedan]

They DO get hot and you must let them cool but "BLOWING UP" is a big step from getting hot. Anyone know of such an occurrence that was documented by a reliable source? Let me know.

Yup, as has been said already, there have been documented instances of them blowing up. It doesn't happen often and FWIW the vast majority of the time someone did something wrong that caused it.

OTOH, a surprising number of young children end up in hospital each year with nic overdoses after eating cigarettes. Careless smoking causes a surprising number oh fires. Laptop and cellphone batteries also burn quite violently sometimes.

It's almost impossible to make anything totally safe.

 

[ElevenEleven]

A 3 year Vaper should realize they are vaping and not reference smoke, in My Opinion.
A 3 year Vaper attempting to inform others should be informed, in My opinion.

Glad to see you can pluck single lines from an entire post to provide yourself opportunity.
Perhaps more similar?

Take a chill pill, ol' man. We all learn eventually.

 

[crxess]

Take a chill pill, ol' man. We all learn eventually.

Twice.............

........................Full Moon?

Second post would not exist if not for Slicing for response.
Third would not exist if not for similar.

Maybe we should pass that pill bottle around

 

[Visus]

There have been isolated incidents as previously posted. Almost all modern mods have the same protection circuitry. There's only a few ways to do it so its not rocket science. What happened frequently in the past was very badly case enclosure engineering and wrong battery usage.

There some people even with protection circuits installed will abuse a mod and render them useless.. Like leaving it on charger for months(Bar in England go boom), or in a hot car(girl in Florida), using wrong battery(guy in alabama almost lost his leg..) Mechanical mods are easy to have issues the protector of protection is the user only; and with battery wraps shorting on the case autofiring, or very short 510 pins on an attomizer causing a person to over tighten and pushing the 510 into battery on the connection bending the battery top and it shorts, ya boom..

The stories are highlighted and people believe them because its what they have seen. Its funny cell phone batteries have had many more explosive incidents but those do not get top headlines or are rushed out of spotlight.

Cannot blame big tobacco or worried uninformed people because they did see this and it did happen.
Moving up to a 15 billion dollar industry has it's enemies so ya..
They will eventually move on in if you keep at them, oh yeah..

One great thing about vaping is there's a group for just about any personality there is.

 

[Canadian_Vaper]

Batteries can explode. So yes it's possible, even happens with smartphones.

 

[Matty316]

Yeah they can explode mainly due to user error but many things can be dangerous if not used correctly or irresponsibly. How many people have died or been injured in fires caused by a lit cigarette for example.

 

[papergoblin]

Batteries of any type can be dangerous, from the ones in a TV remote, vaping mods, to cars. The more power a battery can hold and discharge the greater the possibility of danger.

If people would treat the batteries used in vaping like a car battery, I believe we'd see less happenings, I could be wrong though. I know car batteries are different as they use lead and acid, just an example.

I have used mechs for a long time and only had one battery vent, it was my fault. I was using a Nemesis clone with hybrid cap and did not check the center pin a my taifun gt. It was a dead short, knew what I did as soon as it happened. I did a quarter turn on mod and tossed it in the yard. There was no flame luckily was using an efest "35amp".

I still use mechs, I love them. I triple check everything when I build and change batteries. I slipped one time because I got in a hurry and complacent. I don't blame the mod, atty, or battery, it was me. I however will not use hybrid mods or adapters very often. There are just too many atties that cut it too close. My Doge v2 is about the only one I'll use in hybrid, since it has the large center pin.

Short and sweet is, if you don't feel comfortable don't use it. If you mess up own up to it, don't blame a mod or battery. We are all human, we mess up, things happen. It doesn't matter how long you've used something, you can still make a mistake.

Just check and recheck a build/setup. If you don't know, ask and if you screw up, say so. I would have more respect for some of these people involved in accidents, if they'd just tell the whole truth and not the poor me I'm awesome, this thing tried to kill me version.

 

[PoliticallyIncorrect]

To begin with--as I'm quick to point out to non-vaping friends and acquaintances--the issue isn't with vaping; it's with lithium-ion batteries. They're a quantum leap in energy-storage devices, and "we" will put up with their explosive potential so long as the use they're put to is essential to life itself--such as playing Words with Friends on our iPads, or texting veal scallopini recipes to our bridge partners, or keeping LED flashlights powerful enough to illuminate a city the size of Dallas so to more easily find the breath mints in a glove compartment on a starless night.

The occasional warmth "we" sense in our shirt pocket indicating the premenstrual tension of a cellphone battery is the calculated and accepted risk "we" tip-toe around in exchange for movie show times, Twitter updates and online pornography.

But "we" don't clog up Facebook newsfeeds with photos of exploded cellphones any more than we'd report each and every instance of automotive fender-benders or worse on the nightly news. Unless they rise to the newsworthiness of Boeing grounding their entire fleet of 787 Dreamliners over onboard lithium-ion power sources, they're too essential and too saturated in number.

But woe be to "they" who would recklessly endanger themselves or others by placing one inside what "we" consider to be the drug paraphernalia of miscreants in our midst.

/rant.

That said, the problem--to the extent that there is one--appears limited to ultra-cheap Chinese eGo clones and the like. The days of stacked, unprotected batteries are long gone (but for the rare, spectacular idiot).

 

[edyle]

https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/f...ics-for-mods-the-ultimate-battery-guide.4848/