Mark Ten? Here we go...

[AntC]

Been seeing a picture of what I thought was a pic of a cigarette with a fancy filter, its behind the counter at my local gas station/Tower Mart along with the Marlboro products, and its obviously a Marlboro product. Actually looked closer, and it's a cig-alike. I find it more than just a coincidence that this product is being marketed about the same time the FDA drops their BS on us. Will you guys be using these Mark Ten ecigs? What other cig-alikes are from Big tobacco companies? Its nice to know in a vape emergency that I can get an ecig easily in a pinch, but I dont want to give ANY money to Big tobacco. Is it inevitable? Are we gonna end up lining their pockets again? I wanna say id quit before paying BT another cent, but easy to say now when I have my vape in hand. Would you guys vape Big Tobacco's vaping products if it came down to them or nothing?

 

[four2109]

They usually have 510 or 801 knockoffs behind the counter for $10. There are some decent disposables. The stuff in the front/counter displays is always going to be BT. BLU, Mark Ten, etc. They own that space unless you go to a smoke shop that has told them to f-off and only sells off brands.
After 40 years experience of their additives to analogs, I don't trust BT selling ecigs or not juicing the juice. They made analogs more addictive for a reason. $$.

 

[cocacola31173]

I will go without before I use anything Big Tobacco manufactures! Cannot trust what they will add to it and yes they would add to it.

 

[DebiK]

Nope, I wouldn't. I don't trust what may be in them.

 

[Saltraker]

No money to BT from me. Right now, that means no Blus, no juice from Johnson Creek, no Mark Tens, etc. I have no use for cigalikes, anyway. In the future, if I have to, I'll be DIYing and building my own mods. But let's hope it doesn't come to that!

 

[RogerWilco357]

JC's is related to big tobacco? how so?

 

[Fitzie]

Better include Green Smoke too. They were bought by Altria.

Altria Bolsters E-Cigarette Business With $110M Buy of Green Smoke | Fox Business

 

[bacc.vap]

JC's is related to big tobacco? how so?

They supply 100% of blu's liquid and are 50% owned by big tobacco. Republic Tobacco Buys Half of Johnson Creek Smoke Juice - eCig One

 

[CountBoredom]

You think the MarkTen is bad, NJoy wants to move beyond ciga-likes: http://www.cspnet.com/category-management-news-data/tobacco-news-data/articles/new-njoy-products-will-bring-vape-national

 

[Bobbilly]

Nice. Governments were worried about setting back tobacco control. Way to go govt. self fulfilling prophecy.

 

[AntC]

They supply 100% of blu's liquid and are 50% owned by big tobacco. Republic Tobacco Buys Half of Johnson Creek Smoke Juice - eCig One

Ouch! The pain.... talk about askin questions you don't really want the answer to lol, Johnson Creek Vanda is my favorite juice! Literally, my number one, absolute, always have it close, freak out if I'm gettin low, ADV. I knew the connection to Blu, but didn't know about the connection to BT. Geez that really hurts. Big kick in the balls lol. Im going to do some research, and if this is all true, these two bottles I have will be my last. Im hopin somewhere along the line, something got twisted or misunderstood, and JC isn't in cahoots with BT. I just dont think I'll be that lucky, I believe it, being the company that supplies Blu with their juice. Thank you for this info, those snakes seem to have gotten their hands in my pockets, AGAIN.

 

[drksideken]

Nice. Governments were worried about setting back tobacco control. Way to go govt. self fulfilling prophecy.

I'm sure they had their fingers crossed behind their backs when they were talking about that issue.

 

[CKCalmer]

I will vape whatever vapor I like with whatever hardware I like. I'd rather acquire it all legally, but if I can't, I'll have no qualms about doing... otherwise.

I'm torn about the prospect of BT getting into the e-cig market. It was inevitable that they would, after all.

On one hand, I have no problem with any company, BT-ones included, making vaping products, as long as the market (i.e., we) determines who's good and who's not. On the other hand, I would much rather NOT give money to the very industry which has collaborated in the killing of many millions of people all over the world. Them getting involved in the vaping industry would seem like a mark of redemption in that respect, and maybe it is, but it's not one in which I want to participate, that's all.

You think the MarkTen is bad, NJoy wants to move beyond ciga-likes:

"[...] introducing a rechargeable line of e-cigarettes and a "high-vapor" product or vapor-tank-mod (VTM), [...]"
Great. That's just what we need. More acronyms.

 

[Bobbilly]

I will vape whatever vapor I like with whatever hardware I like. I'd rather acquire it all legally, but if I can't, I'll have no qualms about doing... otherwise.

I'm torn about the prospect of BT getting into the e-cig market. It was inevitable that they would, after all.

On one hand, I have no problem with any company, BT-ones included, making vaping products, as long as the market (i.e., we) determines who's good and who's not. On the other hand, I would much rather NOT give money to the very industry which has collaborated in the killing of many millions of people all over the world. Them getting involved in the vaping industry would seem like a mark of redemption in that respect, and maybe it is, but it's not one in which I want to participate, that's all.
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I wouldn't have a problem with it either if I still had a choice to not deal with them. From a public health perspective dual use does nothing but demonstrate no net benefit to cdc/FDA. Vaping just becomes another tobacco product to eliminate or control