Mech Mod advantages?
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That's changing. See Evolv's dna-30; spec sheet says it's good to 0.5 ohms, but it will actually go a bit lower than that.
That really depends on what you make as a coil, lower is faster. and hotter and all that.
To me - it is the responsibility that is mine alone of matching coils to batteries to achieve a vape that i don't think electronics can do. I may well be illogical, but i am grounded well in electrical theory and practice, so i just roll along regardless.
You can make a 2Ω coil on a mech (my wife loves them) and be happy all day long. The point is a mech does not do any error checking for you - wrap a bit of wire directly between both posts - it'll still work, but your battery will not be happy.
I don't wish to sound alarmist - there are whole threads dedicated to battery safety and every single one of them requires knowledge of Ohm's Law. If you are into subohm vapes and i'm sure you will be at some point, then take a few minutes and understand the figures first.
Make a couple of coils - say one at 1.5 and one at as close to 1.3 (which is the minimum for most electronics) and see what you think.
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I'd love to have a mech FOR BACKUP; and the last thing I'd want to put on it is some very low ohm coil.
The advantage of a mech mod is that it is just a simple mechanical device; no electronics that can get screwed up; your expensive thingy with the vv vw safety features that prevent it from discharging etc, could just have a meltdown - maybe some eliquid gets on the electronics and the electronics gets fried................ Now what; you need a smoke, whatcha gonna do - - pull out the ole backup mech; no fancy stuff just a tube for a battery and a simple on off switch.
If it's a backup then explain why mechs are more expensive than regulated... The high end ones.... I keep a regulated as a back up... But it doesn't come near to performance of the mech. My provari is my backup and my just GG is my adv main device.... Just IMHO
As that the majority of the most expensive devices is mech...
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Because it's hard to get a copper mod with silver plated conductors, adjustable firing pin and great machining for the cost of an Ego.
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Like most of us that sub ohm, a regulated mod or a mech with an over ohm coil is just not satisfying anymore.
I am not a cloud chaser and frankly low sub ohm coils seem to loose flavor for me so I am in the .6 to .8 ohm range.
The warmth of the vape, flavor, and vapor production are the primary culprits.
If you really want to experience flavor, you will need to have Peter set you up one of my Mundy Magic coils when you get that work of art.
Nothing can compare IMO and in dib's and Xo's and others.
Safety is not an issue IF you understand what you are doing and have the proper equipment and don't try to one up (or would that be down) everyone else with the lowest possible ohm coil just cause you can.
I personally find juice consumption about the same per day as before. (3 to 5ml depending on how the day goes)
Using AW IMR18650's 1600mah I change in the morning and midday. (Today was a brutal work day in the cold drizzle and wind so I didn't vape as much and didn't change until just about an hour ago at 3.66V (cause I was curious) and topped off the Reo Grand (about 2.5ml used))
Me? I don't particularly want to sub ohm. On the contrary, I am carefull to stay over an ohm; I aim for 2 ohm. Maybe 5 years down the road after much experience I might take an interest for whatever reason, but right now all I want is a cheaper consistent safe alternative to my 30 year habit of smoking, and I how I can convert a few people along the way
Well, the REASON that mech mods tend to be more expensive I think is customization. They are simple enough that someone who is artistic can create a beautiful case without messing with electronics. An Otto Carver can cost $3000, while you can get mech mods for under $20, WITH a kick. This one I just got:
And it's not a clone of anything, just a metal tube with a pin button touching an internal metal tube, a replaceable kick, and a connector top. Well, it might be a clone of a flashlight bottom design
. They do not have to be 'more expensive'. You pay expensive for design, fit, finish and decorative work.
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I did not say that a mech is a backup.
And obviously, your mech, is not a backup, it is your main.
As for expense, a mech has little that can go wrong with it, so it is actually worthwhile to construct a high quality mech with gold contacts and other constructions; but with a typical regulated system, it's going to die after a while anyway, so the pressure is on to manufacture with cheaper materials.
For me personally I don't particularly want a mech; but if I could get the right modules that a tube can work as a regulated supply, but function without the eletronics screwon removalbe module as a mech, it would be worth it to get a quality constuction.
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Ok, I will ask him for the Mundy coil when it's my turn. That would be very helpful, since I have no idea how to coil that
. (nor am I particularly good at making coils).And, rather than try to reinvent the wheel with my new understanding of electronics, I will simply buy whatever battery you buy
. hehe.So despite the interesting chart on the Sony VT4, you're sticking with the AW 1600s?
batteries are cheap. I throw them out if they look at me the wrong way. I have some MM wire Monkey sent me and it's not bad at all, it's a ....... to get thru the posts though!
i'll confine myself to recommending that you do your homework and don't rush into anything you are unsure about. You have the ability to make your own mind up.
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i'll confine myself to recommending that you do your homework and don't rush into anything you are unsure about. You have the ability to make your own mind up.
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Well, the REASON that mech mods tend to be more expensive I think is customization. They are simple enough that someone who is artistic can create a beautiful case without messing with electronics. An Otto Carver can cost $3000, while you can get mech mods for under $20, WITH a kick. This one I just got:
And it's not a clone of anything, just a metal tube with a pin button touching an internal metal tube, a replaceable kick, and a connector top. Well, it might be a clone of a flashlight bottom design
I pay for the finest made devices. Imeos mods are the top made devices. You dont understand the difference untill you hold them two. Again I'm talking about high end mods not ones fast tech or any other below 100$ devices. Go look at just GG see how sleek and simple the design is. Look how nothing can fail no wires no circuit board just raw power. I held a provari while I liked how well it performed I liked looks when I picked up just GG I couldn't put it down. You can feel how beautifully made it was. It's like owning a manual vs an automatic vehicle in terms of performance. However it's made is deciding from above 100k or below for cars and American vs foreign.
Ps I prefer my Mercedes compressor manual
and my just GG in the cup holder. Sent from my Just GG using Tapatalk
Imeo has his proteus coming out
it's regulated. check the GG forums And besides what works for you is whatever you want
whatever keeps you off the analogs I agree with you on the long run expense... Less to go wrong Sent from my Just GG using Tapatalk
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I pay for the finest made devices. Imeos mods are the top made devices. You dont understand the difference untill you hold them two. Again I'm talking about high end mods not ones fast tech or any other below 100$ devices. Go look at just GG see how sleek and simple the design is. Look how nothing can fail no wires no circuit board just raw power. I held a provari while I liked how well it performed I liked looks when I picked up just GG I couldn't put it down. You can feel how beautifully made it was. It's like owning a manual vs an automatic vehicle in terms of performance. However it's made is deciding from above 100k or below for cars and American vs foreign.
Ps I prefer my Mercedes compressor manual
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Au Contraire.. I do know the difference between expensive and cheap. You said that mech mods were all expensive, implying that was a trait of mech mods, and I said it was not a trait of mech mods but of workmanship. You can find both in mech mods, because artists can more easily use the mech mod as a framework for their art, and do not have to think like an engineer to design it
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Not mine, mine are personally modded with a good old mechanical car fuse and I only use top notch IMR batteries.
I have yet to see a report of an IMR battery venting, little lone exploding.
I personally shorted AW IMR batteries in a controlled experiment and they got hot, smoldered, and died a peaceful death in the sand.
On the other hand I have seen ICR batteries (the chemistry most regulated mod batteries use) vent like a flare spewing molten material several feet when overtaxed.
Au Contraire.. I do know the difference between expensive and cheap. You said that mech mods were all expensive, implying that was a trait of mech mods, and I said it was not a trait of mech mods but of workmanship. You can find both in mech mods, because artists can more easily use the mech mod as a framework for their art, and do not have to think like an engineer to design it
No by all means not a direct trait but just mainly the majority. Yes a lot of craftsmanship
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Ok, I will ask him for the Mundy coil when it's my turn. That would be very helpful, since I have no idea how to coil that
And, rather than try to reinvent the wheel with my new understanding of electronics, I will simply buy whatever battery you buy
So despite the interesting chart on the Sony VT4, you're sticking with the AW 1600s?
I would have no problem with other top notch IMR chemistry batteries, in fact I have some Orbtronic SX30 batteries for my 20A buck mod.
It's just that the AW 1600mah IMR18650 is a proven safe work horse.
There are fakes out there (especially ebay) so if you do buy them, get them from a known verified dealer of the real AW.
i have 4 sx30s and they are a bit tasty!
But i am a fan of the Orbies anyway.
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But i am a fan of the Orbies anyway.
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