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I like that 9 years vent free! The engineer in me wants to know what happens if a vent does occur since stuff happens. I always wore a helmet while riding a motorcycle just in case.
A few years ago, a friend placed her Caravela (just like the Caravela that I use) in her purse without locking the switch. When the battery vented, it simply stripped the threads. (switch end of the tube)
Besides being a vented switch, the switch is only held in place by 2.5 threads. Which is purposely the weak place.
So got my helmet on
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There is a saying in the roofing industry. “It’s not whether you will fall off a roof, it’s when”. Cool. It hasn’t happened to you. Yet. Happened to me twice. All it takes is one dumb slip up.
No I melted batteries twice. I avoid walking on roofs entirely. It’s not even legal to do without safety equipment in my area anymore. The roofing companies complained like mad about the law that changed it until they noticed that it reduced their insurance costs so much they were actually saving money.
If it happens twice, that simply means that ya didn't learn the first time. .... Just sayin
Thanks for sharing that. It just demonstrates the need for features to minimize damage in the event things go south. Which they can, and sometimes do.
I hate being the pessimist, but that notion isn't going to get far in this industry.
The FDA will likely prohibit the sale of new unregulated mechanical mods in the near future in the USA. After consulting with UL (underwriters laboratories), I believe they concluded that any vaping device which uses removable batteries is a hazzard to consumers, especially a bare bones mechanical mod that has no protection circuitry.
New proposed FDA and UL guidelines for e-cigarette manufacturers that will affect YOU.
Not many mech manufacturers are going to voluntarily add "safety features" to their product which will add manufacturing time and increase parts costs whose increased costs will be passed on to their customer. Any so-called "safety features" are purely theoretical and conjecture at this point. Mech manufacturers are mostly mom-and-pop machinists who don't have the financial resourches to beta test any proposed safety features.
Mech users don't seem to be demanding a safer product to be made. Most consider themselves "purists" who reject any use wire or electronics.
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Information on possible actions in the upcoming FDA update then. Interesting. There’s no link in the post, but I’m seeing one in the quote except it of course doesn’t work. I’d like to see that link if possible.
EDIT. Now the link works. Weird. Anyway that link isn’t about what the FDA is going to do it’s about the UL thing.
What’s this about the FDA deciding to do something based on the UL thing? Got any data on that?
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I like a pessimist, I call it being a realist. I won’t argue with any of that. The auto industry has gone crazy with multi layered safety features but I guess there is a lot more profit in that! I once owned a ‘65 911 that had a nice emergency braking feature, I could put my foot through the floorboard and drag it.
I actually tried that once, though I had to open the door to do it. Very very icy road and the brakes were doing absolutely nothing. Well not nothing. If I locked them I could make the car rotate slowly ina circle. Didn’t slow it any though.
Yes, I see that link is no longer functioning or has been removed. This seems to be the original article below:
Why safer vaping devices that don't explode will not be available in the U.S.
I tried finding the specific UL guideline info by Googling online. The proposed guideline is UL 8139.
UL 8139 Electrical System of Electronic Cigarettes | UL
I should point out that the UL 8139 has not been adopted by the FDA yet, but judging how things are going for the vaping industry in the USA I believe they will be adopted in the long run. Their intent seems to be an attempt to remove any chance of human error.
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Ah second link. Thx
Looking at it it’s a statement by UL on their website promoting UL 8139. The thing is there’s no date. It does confirm that at one point the FDA and UL did talk about safety stuff, and UL has had that certification up and available for some time now. There was apparently one vape manufacturer that went through it to certify a device and then had their device rejected for US sale.
It’s not impossible.
UL is not a part of the government. It’s a non-profit corporation. What they do is test stuff and certify it as safe then provide litigation backing if someone hurts themselves with it. For a long time it was considered a de jure requirement for anything electrical sold in the US, but it was never a de facto requirement, and lately as legal repercussions have gotten ever and ever weaker, companies aren’t even bothering to use it because it’s more profitable to make unsafe products and field the occasional lawsuit.
Actually they're shifting the human error to the Chinese production line. We'll see how that works out.
Thought about this one some more. The issue UL has with replaceable battery mods is that the batteries aren’t super safe. They don’t have enough protective cladding on them. People like replaceable batteries. This is true for most devices. Charging cables kinda suck. What would be needed is a more robust lithium battery standard than what we have now.
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