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AlexTM

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It is hardly news that the eGo comes with a 510 atty and cart, and those are well-known, I should say, including their size. TW has a new atty and cart that is said to hold twice as much, but a few people might be put off by the price. (And the fact that just a larger cart would very likely have done fine as well, just cheaper.)

I absolutely second the motion for a larger cart, though. But then, probably about everybody on the forum does.

Nevertheless, with a 510 I should think it next to impossible to vape so much that one has to refill every 10 minutes. Even every 30 minutes takes a lot of vaping. And analogs did not last that long, so where is the problem?
 

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Just purchased the eGo and its nice but the cart is small. We need a cig that has a bigger atomizer and a cart larger than the Janty Stick. I am getting tired of buying each cig that you guys put out hoping it will be better than the one I have. I stopped the ecig for 7 months because I am disgusted with refilling about every 10 min or so and Janty lost some money in liquid sales during that time. When the atomizers get overheated, the smoke decreases.

If Janty would make a really good cig with an atomizer that was twice as powerfull as the eGo maybe with a switch to select power setting, super large cart and battery, I would sign a contract to buy a certain amount of liquid each year.

While you are entitled to your opinion, i hope you do realise that Janty has not invented the 510 atomizer, or the 801 atomizer, nor the cart system.

We are using those, because they are the standard; And we ARE trying to develop systems to both get away from them, and to use them better.

I just dont like that you make it sound as if we ( Janty ) are slacking. Everyone who makes e-cigs have to use the atomizers - so do we. And before you say that we can just develop a new one - yes, but thats pretty damn costly. Not only costly to make, to research, but also to get people to use.

And personally i dont think making it bigger will solve the problem. If i drip in a 510 and an 801, i only get one or two puffs more from an 801. So making an atomizer that is twice the size of an 801, would only get me .. say 4-5-6 puffs more = still not enough.

We need a new way of feeding liquid. That new way can be used for all our filters. And thats where our research is at the moment.
 

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Just have to say this eGo is the best pv I have ever owned.. Over the weekend I sold my 2 protege's just to buy another eGo.. Yea it is that good... Mind u the protege is a good pv, but for me, I just need the eGo.. Got to say Janty has the best customer service as well. I ordered my 2nd eGo on the weekend, & just found out about the lower price.. So went & did a ticket about the new price & wow they are going to give me a $5 credit on my next purchase, since they shipped my eGo out this morning... Now that is service... U will always have me for a customer....:D:thumbs:
 

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Hey,

so before you throw rocks at me, let me explain why we are even doing this poll:

The eGo has become a massive succes and rightfully so. Its small, its beautiful, and it lasts for a very long time. Now, in order to provide that same experience in the Baby J it naturally has to become larger - primarily due to using an 801 atomizer - and then ofcourse retaining the design.

My personal opinion is YES. I think this device will hit a homerun with alot of people. Its big, - but its ment to be e-cigar-like. Its ment to be a "bigger" vaping device, that will last a long time, provide USB while vaping/charging, and hopefully a higher voltage.

At the moment we are discussing adding 4.5 volt to it - and keep it at that, so the final product will be something like:

Length from end to end WITHOUT filter: 125 mm
Length from end to end WITH filter inserted: 150 mm
Diameter at the end (biggest point): 18 mm

The body will be entirely metal, and so will the atomizer cover.

The design will be exactly like the one i showed in the prototype renderings / video.

As of right now, the idea as i mentioned is 4.5 volt, - keeping the USB at the end ( with ability to hide behind a screw/on/off lid )

Battery power: unknown - but as much as possible. If this was 3.7 - around 1000 mAh should be possible - if we go for 4.5 volt, i cant say how much it will be.

Battery tech: The same as the eGo uses.

So - whats your verdict - and please be honest: im not looking for a "If it had this, i would buy it, so please can you add this" - id rather know if you are interested or not - you are welcome to comment on it, or features, but lets keep this as a poll thread, rather than a wishlist for development thread.

The birth or death of the Baby J might well depend on the outcome of this thread! So lets hear it!

/Mik
 

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I have an affinity to the 801 as it was my first real device after the silly trek into the super mini stratosphere. And, I am happiest when a normal battery is fully charged at 4.2 volts or so. So, an eGo battery tech that operates at 4.5 volts sounds like a winner to me.

There would be a reverse learning curve for me after using the super small eGo for the past few weeks though. But, I can't help but think that the tesla filter attached to a giant 801 cart would last -- well, a long effing time. I'd buy the Baby J just to watch you, Mik, get all dizzy and light-headed demonstrating the Tesla on the BabyJ/801. That has to be a 1+ hour non-stop lollapalooza of a vaping session. Worth the price right there. =)
 

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skip it.

its a difficult question, on one side the success of the eGo, on the other side, again an integrated battery. i think i skip it this time and hope the StickXL / Cameo comes more to my own liking. i would lie if i said build it no matter what battery design you choose.
you got opinions on the design already, but for me you draw the wrong conclusions.
 

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Make the Baby J but yes possibly only with the higher voltage. It'll satisfy the consumer looking for their 801 attys to have a bit more behind them, will in fact fill the niche for those who want a mod but value style, which is largely lacking in the higher volt mods. I for one am becoming interested in being able to vape at 5v but remain leery of blowing attys constantly. I'm sure there are many like me, so the Baby J would be a great solution if it's over 3.7 and with onboard USB. You're talking about in essence a stylish and deluxe Janty stick replacement with longer life and a bit more heat behind the atty. That's a homerun indeed and I believe will sell huge. Of course, it might bite into your stick sales!

If it's released with the tesla cartridge also avaliable I'd think that would be crucial to moving lots of Baby J's, the penstyle cart is so difficult to get just right and hard to mod so IMHO the Baby J is going to be the "gotta have it" accessory to the 801 cart finally having a viable solution. Basically the Baby J is going to be bought to enjoy a big 801 with the tesla cart to it's max.

So yes make it as described(4.5v and USB) and I'm sure it will sell. But release it with the tesla filter either included or avaliable.
 

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Being an 801 fan, I have been happy with my Janty Sticks, and have bypassed the EGO, as its a 510, as I am waiting patiently for my Baby J..

So I would vote YES..

Im not interested in anything over 3.7v vaping, as I have yet to smoke a cigarette that offered me the kind of smoke people want by using high voltage vaping.

3.7v or something in that general range works well for me. Add an 801 atty and I will be happy..
 

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I have become a big fan of 5v & 6v. I have two janty sticks sitting in my drawer only because I love the higher voltages. Don't get me wrong I loved the JS when starting to vap. It got me off analogs. But as time went on 3.7v just didn't do it for me any longer.

Again, this is just me. I am not saying that 3.7v is %$#^$^%&* and anyone who likes it is a $%&^*(&*(). Just stating my personal preference.

I did not buy an eGo for this very reason, 3.7v. If I recall correctly you announced the Baby J before you said anything about the eGo. I was disappointed that the eGo got the go ahead and the Baby J took a back seat. But I have been patiently waiting and lurking these Janty threads while looking forward to buying a Baby J at higher voltages (and the telsa filter).

5v & 6v are an important percentage of the vap'n market. It is not going away. To be a well rounded company serving the e-cig community, I feel that Janty truly needs a higher voltage device to appeal to the entire community and serve all market levels.

I still enjoy coming to this Janty forum mainly because I respect Mic. I appreciate his honesty, integrity to build qaulity products and Mic just cracks me up, very funny guy. But I would like to own a higher voltage Jany product so I could join in on the fun here more often talking about the higher voltage experience.
 

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Hi Mik,
I LOVE my eGo. Nough said on that. LOL
I would also get the Baby J as its big brother and finally end the misery of trying (almost) to get everything I like when I see it. But alas, I will be super HAPPY with Lil eGo and its big brother the Baby J.
Throw a tesla filter on both and my HOLY GRAIL dreams are over! I will never have to buy anything else (except a replacement batt and atty once in a while for the eGo (maybe both) unless Mik out does himself on his next project.
YES! I say...;)
 

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To be honest I would rather see you add around a half inch to the ego length get it to 900mah and have the Passthrough option under the endcap.

Then you produce a compact 801 adapter that will fit under the cone and you can satisfy both the 510 and the 801 guys. (btw I don't know anything about the 801 so I have no clue if that is feasible or not)

Keep the original ego together as it is as a starter kit and just offer the new option as a "mega" or "XL" or whatever you want to call it battery only.

I ended up buying the aftermarket version of the ego and am amazed at how great it is.
 
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