So I've been on this and other forums searching through countless threads and noticed that there is not a definitive guide to mixing a zero nic solution made with only VG. I've recently ordered a few ingredients and made a few really wicked flavors but I'm at a standstill. My first try was a strawberry melon flavor. I mixed in about 15 percent water with another 15 percent flavoring and then topped that off with VG. Shook up the bottle (15 ML) and it seemed thin enough. Dropped it into my atty and I get a really hard pull, a very slight flavor, but HIGH vapor. The only issue is that I don't seem to understand the exact mixture I have to pull to get a really good mix going with good flavor and vapor. I don't really care for throat hit. I just essentially want to have something that tastes good and makes vapor so that I can get my mind off of my cravings for a bit and not feed myself more nic. Does anyone know a good mix of a pure VG base that won't clog my atty up? Thanks for any help.
Mixing a 0 nic solution?
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You are well on your way really. There is no definitive guide to mixing any juice. And you found the reason there is not, everyone is different. Different tastes, different hardware, different ideas of what makes a great juice. You want flavor and vapor, so that makes your quest a bit easier.
You do not mention what type of flavoring you are using, but you know you are not getting enough flavor in your mixes. As you noticed, VG is a fairly thick liquid. It also has the ability, according to some, to mute flavor. There are 2 ways around your issue of too little flavor.
The easiest is to add more flavoring. Maybe try 18% on your next batch. If that doesn't help, maybe you need to go to 20%. I have one recipe that requires 35% flavoring to be right. Granted most are in the 10-15% range, but that range does not apply to all flavorings.
The most difficult way to increase flavor is to let the juice fully diffuse. The easiest way to do that is to let it sit, capped, in a dark drawer at room temperature for about a week. This allows time for the flavoring molecules to disperse fully into the VG. This is difficult for two reasons. One, you have to wait and most of us don't like to wait. Second, your flavoring ratio may still be low and you will not know for a week.
Now, if you flavors are PG or alcohol based, the great news is you can reduce your water as you increase your flavoring and it should still have about the same viscosity. If you are using VG based flavors, you will have to keep the same ratio for the distilled water to maintain proper flow into your atty.
Hopefully this helped and your next few batches will be wonderful.
You do not mention what type of flavoring you are using, but you know you are not getting enough flavor in your mixes. As you noticed, VG is a fairly thick liquid. It also has the ability, according to some, to mute flavor. There are 2 ways around your issue of too little flavor.
The easiest is to add more flavoring. Maybe try 18% on your next batch. If that doesn't help, maybe you need to go to 20%. I have one recipe that requires 35% flavoring to be right. Granted most are in the 10-15% range, but that range does not apply to all flavorings.
The most difficult way to increase flavor is to let the juice fully diffuse. The easiest way to do that is to let it sit, capped, in a dark drawer at room temperature for about a week. This allows time for the flavoring molecules to disperse fully into the VG. This is difficult for two reasons. One, you have to wait and most of us don't like to wait. Second, your flavoring ratio may still be low and you will not know for a week.
Now, if you flavors are PG or alcohol based, the great news is you can reduce your water as you increase your flavoring and it should still have about the same viscosity. If you are using VG based flavors, you will have to keep the same ratio for the distilled water to maintain proper flow into your atty.
Hopefully this helped and your next few batches will be wonderful.
You could also try adding in a flavor enhancer, such as Ethyl Maltol, MTS Vape Wizard, or even a little Menthol. [Links are to three different DIY suppliers, each of whom cases carries the other ingredients as well.]
Unless you are using 100% VG and can't use PG. You could try replacing the water with PG, since PG will help with bringing out the flavor( a little bit at least).
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