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Discussion in 'Batteries and Chargers' started by susieqz, Feb 10, 2020.

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  1. susieqz

    susieqz Super Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 11, 2018
    high plains
    mooch was just live on you tube.
    he was taking questions.

    i have a question for him i'd really
    like to ask .
    but, i couldn't figure out how to do that.
    is there someplace i need to go ?

    can anyone tell me how to post a question, please?
     
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  2. Ceejay0875

    Ceejay0875 Super Member ECF Veteran

    May 24, 2016
    You have to be signed into youtube to go into live chat and post a question. Why don't you just ask him here? He's active in the Batteries and Chargers section, or you could ask him by PM.
     
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  3. susieqz

    susieqz Super Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 11, 2018
    high plains
    thank you.
    i don't wanna pm him because that would feel like an imposition,
    i don't know if i'm signed into you tube, but i'll go look.
     
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  4. smacuser

    smacuser Vapid Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Jan 22, 2012
    Vape Augustine, FL
    What is your question?




    @Mooch
    :D
     
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  5. susieqz

    susieqz Super Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 11, 2018
    high plains
    well, i vape a 2 battery mod around 30 watts.
    i ran the equasions n they tell me that a 10 amp battery would be fine.
    but, everyone tells me to stay with 15 watt batteries,
    i wanna know why n if they are wrong.
     
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  6. smacuser

    smacuser Vapid Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Jan 22, 2012
    Vape Augustine, FL
    What's your mod?

    Sounds about right. You might consider 20 amp batts.
     
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  7. susieqz

    susieqz Super Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 11, 2018
    high plains
    sigelei sobra, but why 20 watts?
     
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  8. G and C

    G and C Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 3, 2014
    California
    Watts and amps are very different things.
     
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  9. susieqz

    susieqz Super Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 11, 2018
    high plains
    oh, i meant amps.
    i ran the equations for amps.
     
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  10. vaper1960

    vaper1960 Vaping Master

    Apr 24, 2019
    California, US
    You should be fine only running 30 watts... BUT have you checked to see if your batteries are actually 10 amp constant? Mine say 30 amp on them but Mooch says they are actually only 20 amp (still work fine for my needs)
    Didn't know about Mooch on YT... cool!
     
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  11. gsmit1

    gsmit1 Super Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 19, 2018
    She has 30Qs:rolleyes:
     
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  12. susieqz

    susieqz Super Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 11, 2018
    high plains
    nah. i'm trying to find out why i shouldn't use 10 amp batteries,
    people said i shouldn't.
     
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  13. gsmit1

    gsmit1 Super Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 19, 2018
    It's always a good idea to overshoot your amperage by a bit. Running at or close to a battery's cdr all the time lessons their lifespan. Or can. I would take Mooch's word over anybody else's though.
     
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  14. vaper1960

    vaper1960 Vaping Master

    Apr 24, 2019
    California, US
    Watching Mooch"s first live Q & A video right now (from 2 years ago) Good stuff.
     
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  15. Zaryk

    Zaryk Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 25, 2018
    Ohio
    That statement is kind of a safety based blanket statement for a lot of newer vapers that use higher power mods, which demand more power than what a 10A battery can supply. If you don't plan to go any higher than 30w, two 10A batteries should fit your needs fine. You would be using about half of your total CDR.
     
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  16. Punk In Drublic

    Punk In Drublic Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Aug 28, 2018
    Toronto, ON
    Your math is not correct. 30 watts with a 2 battery device equates to roughly 5 amps per battery (that’s a rounded number)

    30 watts/ 2 batteries/ 3.2 volt cuttoff/ 90% efficiency = 5.2 amps per battery

    Our goal is to not exceed the battery rating. Matching the rating is not necessary. By using a battery that is rated higher than your output, you being less stressful on the battery.

    There is more to batteries than just their CDR and mAh rating. As mAh increases, CDR must decrease. However, internal resistance also increases. Higher internal resistance = higher voltage drop which equals hitting that 3.2 volt cut off sooner.

    According to Mooch’s tests. The 3400 mAh, 10 amp CDR LG MJ1 drops to 3.2 volts with a 5 amp draw faster than the 30Q does with a 10 amp draw. So if the 30Q was operating with a 5 amp draw, it would vastly outperform the LG MJ1

    The 30Q is an excellent all round battery. For your purposes it is pretty much the perfect choice. Choosing a lower CDR battery will most likely lead to poorer performance.
     
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  17. susieqz

    susieqz Super Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 11, 2018
    high plains
    thanks, punk.
    i needed that explanation.
    i looked but couldn't find that test.
     
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  18. Punk In Drublic

    Punk In Drublic Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Aug 28, 2018
    Toronto, ON
    There is no direct comparison tests. You have to look at each individual battery and analyze/compare their tests with another.
     
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  19. Baditude

    Baditude ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Apr 8, 2012
    Ridgeway, Ohio


    WATTAGE PER SINGLE BATTERY on REGULATED MOD:
    (Total wattage doubles using 2 batteries; Triples using 3 batteries.)

    Up to 45W:
    Samsung 18650 30Q, 3000 mah 15 amp CDR [​IMG]
    Sony 18650VTC6 3000mAh 15 amp CDR [​IMG]
    Up to 60W:
    LG 18650HG2 3000mah 20 amp CDR [​IMG]
    LG 18650HE4 2500 mah 20 amp CDR [​IMG]
    Samsung 18650-25R, 2500 mah 20 amp CDR [​IMG]
    Sanyo UR18650NSX, 2500 mah 20 amp CDR [​IMG]
    Sony 18650VTC5, 2600 mah 20 amp CDR [​IMG]
    Sony 18650VTC4, 2100 mah 23 amp CDR [​IMG]
    Up to 75W:
    LG 18650 HD4 2100 mah 25 amp CDR [​IMG]
    LG 18650 HD2 2000 mah 25 amp CDR [​IMG]
    Samsung 18650-24S, 2500 mah 25 amp CDR [​IMG]
    Sony 18650VTC5A, 2500 mah 25 amp CDR [​IMG]
    Molicel 18650-P26A, 2600 mah 25 amp CDR [​IMG]
    Up to 90W:
    LG18650HB6 1500mah 30 amp CDR [​IMG]
    LG18650HB2 1500mAh 30 amp CDR [​IMG]
    LG18650HB4 1500mAh 30 amp CDR [​IMG]
    Samsung 18650-20S 2000mah 30 amp CDR [​IMG]
     
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  20. gsmit1

    gsmit1 Super Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 19, 2018
    Yep.
     
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