More media madness!

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vaper1960

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Sounded more like an inquisition than an interview
That's exactly how I felt watching it. Almost didn't finish it because I was getting ...... off, but glad I did because the way the news guy stopped the "interview" immediately was the reason I posted this.
BTW, please try to NOT get too political... then people start arguing and ruin the discussion. Thank you for keeping it civil, but feel free to bash the mainstream media!
 

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In my mind, shepard smith lost his credibilty that day in 2004 when the big hurricane hit new orleans and he had an emotional meltdown on the section of a roadway and ramp that wasnt underwater, in front of the cameras and about 50 or more people that were stranded there because of the flood. And it seemed like after that, he wasnt on tv as much, of if so, was covering some unimportant fluff story. I wonder if anybody else remembers this.
Given where I live. Yeah I remember it well.
 

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Ever watch on weekends? Leland Vitert is Shemp Smith 2.0. OAN is usually more conservative than Fox, but they've been trashing vaping non-stop. No idea why.

I only watch Bret Baier's show regularly. He's the last sane one. Chris Wallace on weekends. I also like John Stossel and Charles Payne. And maybe Cavuto. And I really miss Charles Krauthammer.... :cry:

The rest of the msm, you know, waste of time ATM. Just my opinion. YMMV. ;)
 

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I watch a couple shows on the weekend like the Greg Gutfeld Show and Life, Liberty, and Levin. Other than that, I cut down on watching cable news, or any television news for that matter. I just don't trust any of the mainstream news outlets. They all push an agenda, like many of these stations did with the anti vaping garbage. It's enough to drive you insane.
 

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That's exactly how I felt watching it. Almost didn't finish it because I was getting ...... off, but glad I did because the way the news guy stopped the "interview" immediately was the reason I posted this.
BTW, please try to NOT get too political... then people start arguing and ruin the discussion. Thank you for keeping it civil, but feel free to bash the mainstream media!

After 4 decades working in the media (TV, print, net etc) I can tell you that all media outlets are political, there's no way around that fact. They are the political organs of those that own and/or control them, they may be state actors or "private" owners (with corporate agendas) ... or one pretending to be the other 8)

So it follows that a discussion about the media has to dig into the politics of those who control it or the dog is barking up the wrong tree.
 

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Real "Investigative Journalist" in the style of Woodward & Bernstein appear to be a thing of the past and seem to focus on writing books only. I believe the media employees a few who write an initial copy of a story, than the crowd of staff writers block copy it into a dozen different articles to blanket a story into days with short burst articles and talking head news time slots that are measured in seconds. As a result we the public never get a full in-depth story presented to us, we get a series of sound bytes and a dozen different articles, none of them containing enough real facts for an informed decision, but enough to make a "shoot from the hip" judgement.
The real problem is we now have people in our government that make spur of the moment decisions based upon this low quality "reporting" for their own personal political advantage and not for doing the work of the people.
Personally, I try to stay with news sources that at least try to add some meat to their reporting and if I see a candidate relying on twitter to communicate their views and I run.
 

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News is now a form of entertainment. True journalism is a lost art like drawing an architectural drawing with a pencil is. Yet much of it is not new.

There was a story told by Benjamin Franklin about a day George Washington told the group in a meeting where they were writing the articles of Americas founding documents where George said "under no circumstances does anyone here allow anyone from the press to see your copy". His thinking was that the press would perhaps put a spin on the story that would give the impression these "wealthy" people are writing the rules so that rich people have all the rights. You know, silly things like "all men are created equal"……

Good ole Ben told the story about the day he was scolded by George for dropping his outside the building they all met at. It seems George was an early riser and arrived each day before everyone else. He found someones copy rolled up on the ground and later said "everybody show me your copy"…… Ben was apparently so embarassed he left for a few days and in his later years told that story to an author writing a book about the life and times of Benjamin Franklin.

The press these days is more of an echo chamber for one team or the other. Pick your favorite team, sit back and watch and you'll see and hear hours and hours of entertaining cheer leaders for whichever side you prefer. Some channels have folks that look like talking wax people. Others have hot chicks. Pick your poison and enjoy the show.

I do the man on the street interviews at times to see what folks think of vaping. The overall majority consider vaping better than smoking but do not think vaping is harmless and now think that vaping is the new smoking. Billions in sales goes a long ways towards proving they are correct. Yet 100+ years ago the populice used to ask about the horseless carriage "don't those things explode?" Think about that. Back then some did. Usually for a similar reason too, unsafe handling of potentially explosive materials.

I remember thinking way back when the first e-cigs arrived at my favorite tobacco store that if these things ever catch on the government is going to want to control them like they do alcohol, tobacco and firearms. Well, it seems that day has arrived. I ponder if the ATF will later become ATFV………
 
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