CALLING ON THE VAPING COMMUNITY TO CONTACT PRESIDENT TRUMP

[Jebbn]

This vaping thing, it is an insight into what kind of political system America has and the sort of people that run America.
Its disgusting. Im out. Have fun.

 

[Horselady154]

I posted a link in The Deeming thread half jokingly. "How's that flavor ban going in Minneapolis?" The link leads you to full blown violent riots in the streets of Minneapolis. I don't know what they are protestng about but it bad.

They weren't protesting. They were just beating the crap out of someone and robbing him.

 

[Eskie]

I see it as a right.

A right half of voters never exercise. Few, in any, nations where the citizens finally gained the right to vote have such poor turnouts. We've come to take it for granted, and thanks to endless polls, and an electoral college system for president, have been conditioned to believe our single vote really doesn't matter. So why skip lunch during work just to go vote?

 

[CMD-Ky]

I do, my inconsistency runs rampant. As Ralph Waldo Emerson said so well:

“A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines.
(italics added)

But you also have:

I'm voting for him vape or no.

Re-elect No One.



People that's what America is about everyone has the absolute right to vote for whoever they want to Land Of The Free baby wouldn't have it any other way.

 

[barkfunklerbunk]

So that changes vaping from a tobacco product to a medical drug product? The craziness of all this in numbing

Why stop there, make everyone register to consume tomatoes, eggplants, or any produce that naturally contains nicotine. Ban farmers markets and their black market tomatoes. But why stop there.. when there's money to be made

 

[CMD-Ky]

A right half of voters never exercise. Few, in any, nations where the citizens finally gained the right to vote have such poor turnouts. We've come to take it for granted, and thanks to endless polls, and an electoral college system for president, have been conditioned to believe our single vote really doesn't matter. So why skip lunch during work just to go vote?

I support the Electoral College, it is one of the Constitutional mechanisms by which we avoid having a democracy, and for it, I thank the wisdom of the drafters of the Constitution.

 

[CMD-Ky]

Sadly, I think you are correct. I am a regular twitter user, and so many angry people who have no clue about vaping, or flavors. But even some of his haters are praising this move. I am sick and tired of "think about the children" But seriously people on both sides of the aisle vape, perhaps even a higher percent among liberals who once smoked went to vaping as a safer alternative. I am not saying there are more liberals who vape than conservatives, I am just saying that a larger percentage among that demographic probably vape. Does that make sense?

It makes some sense in a statistical sort of way, but is it true?

 

[CMD-Ky]

Washington DC has proposed a sort of medical registration to vape. You would need a prescrption to buy gear and liquid. I guess that would be better than an outright ban.

I'll lay down for no governmental decisions about whether I will or will not be given permission to vape. A group of fools are to rule my life? I'll pass on that.

 

[Eskie]

I support the Electoral College, it is one of the Constitutional mechanisms by which we avoid having a democracy, and for it, I thank the wisdom of the drafters of the Constitution.

Perhaps that's why voting turnouts are so low. We allow a system where political parties select our executive branch. Maybe democracy should finally be granted to US citizens. We sure put lots of money,effort, and "regime change" into marketing it to foreign nations.

 

[CMD-Ky]

Perhaps that's why voting turnouts are so low. We allow a system where political parties select our executive branch. Maybe democracy should finally be granted to US citizens. We sure put lots of money,effort, and "regime change" into marketing it to foreign nations.

The two party system is the bane of the republic but the ruling class has a lock on the elections. They are the reason that our choice is and always will be the lesser of evils at every level and in every branch of government.
Are you certain that you want a democracy? I am very certain that I do not.

 

[Eskie]

The two party system is the bane of the republic but the ruling class has a lock on the elections. They are the reason that our choice is and always will be the lesser of evils at every level and in every branch of government.
Are you certain that you want a democracy? I am very certain that I do not.

It depends on who you trust more, the ruling class or the people. Doesn't look like the ruling class has been doing a bang up job of it. Well, unless you're in the ruling class of course.

 

[mightymen]

Fair enough. Full disclosure, I agree with more of Trump's policies than I don't agree with. But if he goes through with a flavor ban, I can see that the future of vaping is hopeless. So if he signs it, he doesn't get my vote.

I don't like any of the democrate candidates or their policies. IMHO, they are too far to the left and too much like socialism. So they won't get my vote.

So, It's entirely possible I may not vote for a presidential candidate next year. I've done it before by only voting on issues.

Well it was a very big issue for Trump but that was before the democrat Governor of New York State opened his mouth and NOW IT IS A LAW. The democrats own it now!

Thanks Governor.

 

[Horselady154]

A right half of voters never exercise. Few, in any, nations where the citizens finally gained the right to vote have such poor turnouts. We've come to take it for granted, and thanks to endless polls, and an electoral college system for president, have been conditioned to believe our single vote really doesn't matter. So why skip lunch during work just to go vote?

If they haven't gone to the effort and beyond just listening to their talking points during debates, to research voting records, donations, etc., I think it's a good thing that they do not vote. Because they would just be voting for who has the best hair, the tallest, whether they are wearing the same color beanie, or who would take from their neighbor the most and give it to them.

 

[Horselady154]

It depends on who you trust more, the ruling class or the people. Doesn't look like the ruling class has been doing a bang up job of it. Well, unless you're in the ruling class of course.

Pure democracies are nothing more than mob rule. Where the majority can get together and decide to knock you over the head and take your new car, because well, the majority of them agreed. Democracies always end poorly. I don't want the crap we have now, either. It is not the republic our forefathers gave us. In my opinion, we basically have a mafia running OUR government and we have allowed them to trample all over our Constitution for many decades.

 

[thediyguy]

GOOD LUCK BRO!

 

[CMD-Ky]

Pure democracies are nothing more than mob rule. Where the majority can get together and decide to knock you over the head and take your new car, because well, the majority of them agreed. Democracies always end poorly. I don't want the crap we have now, either. It is not the republic our forefathers gave us. In my opinion, we basically have a mafia running OUR government and we have allowed them to trample all over our Constitution for many decades.

I thought my comment that I was certain that I did not want a democracy would reign fire and brimstone down on my head. I am with you, HL, each and every sentence.

 

[Baditude]

 

[midficollege]

The question is what we, as voters, will do when the candidates from each party are equally bad on the nominal "single issue". Does anyone really believe that Elizabeth Warren or Kamala Harris, or, God forbid, Robert Francis O'Rourke wouldn't demand that the FDA/CDC/BATFE/etc "do something for the sake of the dying children"?

As the initial post in the thread pointed out, I think it's more likely that we can convince those in power that their crusade is misguided, rather than rely on political calculations... or, for that matter, stick someone else in as head of the executive branch who thinks that everything, down to personal contract details between employer and employee, needs to be regulated down to the smallest detail.

 

[bnrkwest]

I wish someone in government would address the actual issue- tainted black market oil THC. But no, none of them will. Today all of them are lying spineless good for nothings.

 

[Katdarling]

Orange jumpsuits, the lot of 'em.