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What a coinkydink....that's where my spousal unit and I plan to retire to during the winter months.....maybe we could be neighbors someday!!! Welcome back. I missed you!!!!
it's just a dream for me right now, but i am really sick of the cold. i missed you too, hun. shouldn't say, but had to spend a few days in the cuckoo's nest....had a bit of a meltdown and needed a "tuneup". med adjustment and feeling much better so far.
it's just a dream for me right now, but i am really sick of the cold. i missed you too, hun. shouldn't say, but had to spend a few days in the cuckoo's nest....had a bit of a meltdown and needed a "tuneup". med adjustment and feeling much better so far.
Good morning miss kelli, glad to see you back. We've been missing you!
Glad to hear you got a tune up. I know how that can be sometimes. {{hugs}}
Good morning miss kelli, glad to see you back. We've been missing you!
Glad to hear you got a tune up. I know how that can be sometimes. {{hugs}}
hugs back
and thanks for checking on me while i was gone
ok question....
in every box with my mini pt2's, there are always a couple 0-ring thingies. i have yet to have to replace any, but i wondered what they are for and if anyone else has had to use them. forgive my stoopdity
in every box with my mini pt2's, there are always a couple 0-ring thingies. i have yet to have to replace any, but i wondered what they are for and if anyone else has had to use them. forgive my stoopdity
I think a lot of people kvetch about the Provari not having VW because they don't want to see them left behind in the market. They're innovators, and they're one of only a handful of US-based mod makers... but if they don't jump on the VW train in the next year or so, they're going to start losing some serious sales to the various companies (including other US companies) who have dual settings.
I wanted the option for both, just because I like options, but to be honest, for the first two months I had the MVP, I didn't really see the point of VW... most dual chips adjust voltage in .1 increments and wattage in .5 increments, and if you vape your juices at different temps, as I do, VV in smaller increments is simply going to offer you greater control over your heat. Then I got an RBA and all of a sudden VW made all the sense in the *world*... with a tank, once your coil is built, it tends to stay at the same resistance. With an RBA, your resistance tends to bounce around more (and you tend to adjust it quite a bit, because you can), so VW is preferable because that way a minute shift in your coil won't cause a sudden voltage spike/drop while you're vaping. So RBA users who like Provaris are also hoping for a VW capable Provari.
TL;DR, the people whining about Provaris not having VW are, by and large, whining because they'd *rather* buy a Provari (or already have one), but they don't like having to switch to a different mod to use VW. If that's not relevant to you, nothing wrong with that, but there's definitely a difference between hating on Provaris and saying "Man, I really wish the Provari had VW, they need to get on that."
ok question....
in every box with my mini pt2's, there are always a couple 0-ring thingies. i have yet to have to replace any, but i wondered what they are for and if anyone else has had to use them. forgive my stoopdity
If you take the tank completely apart (which is rarely necessary, but possible) there's an o-ring on the top and bottom of the tank section to snug the connection between the pyrex bit and the metal bits. They're easily lost down the drain, especially if you don't know to keep an eye out for them when the tank first comes apart.
They replace the o-rings from the top and bottom of the tank...sometimes it's easy to drop them when you're cleaning, or they might get damaged when you're taking it apart or putting it back together.ok question....
in every box with my mini pt2's, there are always a couple 0-ring thingies. i have yet to have to replace any, but i wondered what they are for and if anyone else has had to use them. forgive my stoopdity
EDIT: Seanchai types faster than me
They replace the o-rings from the top and bottom of the tank...sometimes it's easy to drop them when you're cleaning, or they might get damaged when you're taking it apart or putting it back together.
EDIT: Seanchai types faster than me
Don't worry, Stone, that'll be the first and last time I've ever typed faster than anyone. I think a lot of people kvetch about the Provari not having VW because they don't want to see them left behind in the market. They're innovators, and they're one of only a handful of US-based mod makers... but if they don't jump on the VW train in the next year or so, they're going to start losing some serious sales to the various companies (including other US companies) who have dual settings.
I wanted the option for both, just because I like options, but to be honest, for the first two months I had the MVP, I didn't really see the point of VW... most dual chips adjust voltage in .1 increments and wattage in .5 increments, and if you vape your juices at different temps, as I do, VV in smaller increments is simply going to offer you greater control over your heat. Then I got an RBA and all of a sudden VW made all the sense in the *world*... with a tank, once your coil is built, it tends to stay at the same resistance. With an RBA, your resistance tends to bounce around more (and you tend to adjust it quite a bit, because you can), so VW is preferable because that way a minute shift in your coil won't cause a sudden voltage spike/drop while you're vaping. So RBA users who like Provaris are also hoping for a VW capable Provari.
TL;DR, the people whining about Provaris not having VW are, by and large, whining because they'd *rather* buy a Provari (or already have one), but they don't like having to switch to a different mod to use VW. If that's not relevant to you, nothing wrong with that, but there's definitely a difference between hating on Provaris and saying "Man, I really wish the Provari had VW, they need to get on that."
I'd have to disagree about ProVape being left behind in the market. VV & VW are 2 ways to tackle the same problem. What's next VA (variable amperage)? Besides, the quality of a vape isn't in the numbers, it's in the flavor/vapor/TH. With VV if it's too low, you turn it up until it tastes right. With VW if it's too low, you turn it up until it tastes right. I have to change settings every time I switch juices, it doesn't matter if I'm adjusting by voltage or power. It doesn't matter if that's a carto or an RBA.
You missed one big thing talking about the difference between the MVP & Provari - durability. The Provari does have a better warranty, but it's often not needed. They'll take a beating that would kill an MVP several times over & still work just fine. Part of that is the lack of VW. VW takes more parts, more complex electronics, which lead to more potential points of failure. That's why I say VW offers me zero advantages and a few disadvantages. I like the non-disposable (a huge thing for me, personally) KISS approach.
So the VW Provari people who aren't hating are either wanting to buy a Provari for the name (which leads us to potentially more "just buy a Provari" people) or the durability (which isn't going to happen by adding more potential points of failure). If VW is someone's thing, there are USA-made mods out there with that feature. That's why it still doesn't make any sense to me. Who cares who makes the mod, find the one that offers the features that suit you best personally at the price point you find is worth the features you're buying. Taco Bell isn't selling any ribeyes, but their sales aren't hurting because of it.
I used to hang out on the Provari subforum. I've seen every argument & every angle to this idea; it never goes anywhere. Buy what works & makes you happy.
Every hobby has 'enthusiasts' who present these same arguments, they're nothing new nor unique to vaping. Cadillac vs Lincoln, Glock vs ..., Nike vs Reebok, Fender vs Gibson, DeWalt vs Festool, Delta vs Jet, Blichmann vs ..., Burton vs NeverSummer.
hey Bib,
i always see you around, but not sure i've ever seen you post here. welcome to The Best Littlein Texas!
Thanks for the welcome!
Any time m'love.
ok question....
in every box with my mini pt2's, there are always a couple 0-ring thingies. i have yet to have to replace any, but i wondered what they are for and if anyone else has had to use them. forgive my stoopdity
For replacements. Some people completely break down their tanks to clean them. I don't because it is unnecessary and causes added wear on the o-rings. O-rings can be lost, they can rip, they can compress, etc. In my opinion you are doing it right. Just wash the tank without breaking it down completely saves those o-rings additional wear and tear.
Unfortunately the RBAs often need to be broken down more thoroughly. Pro tanks, not so much.
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Oz, you make some great points, but I respectfully disagree with you on this particular one:
Yes, it does... because as I said, RBA coils bounce around in resistance quite a lot, especially while you're breaking them in. Let's say I build what I think is a 1.8 coil (checked several times with a multimeter of some description) and I set it at 3.8 volts (roughly 8 watts). Before I have a vape off it, it's still a 1.8 coil. After three drags, it's decided it's now a 1.4 coil - I've just gone from 8 watts to 10.3 watts in a matter of seconds. I can fix that manually (by adjusting the coil again, or by lowering the voltage) but only if I catch it. Compare that to setting it at 8 watts, and if my coil bounces around a little while it's breaking in, it doesn't change my vape.
I'm not saying VW is better than VV or vice versa, and you make some good points as to why Provape hasn't made the Provari with dual settings... but with RBAs, it *does* make a difference whether you're using VV or VW... potentially a pretty big difference.
Yes, it does... because as I said, RBA coils bounce around in resistance quite a lot, especially while you're breaking them in. Let's say I build what I think is a 1.8 coil (checked several times with a multimeter of some description) and I set it at 3.8 volts (roughly 8 watts). Before I have a vape off it, it's still a 1.8 coil. After three drags, it's decided it's now a 1.4 coil - I've just gone from 8 watts to 10.3 watts in a matter of seconds. I can fix that manually (by adjusting the coil again, or by lowering the voltage) but only if I catch it. Compare that to setting it at 8 watts, and if my coil bounces around a little while it's breaking in, it doesn't change my vape.
I'm not saying VW is better than VV or vice versa, and you make some good points as to why Provape hasn't made the Provari with dual settings... but with RBAs, it *does* make a difference whether you're using VV or VW... potentially a pretty big difference.
Piggy, you are fitting right in here! You are funny!! Now, let me say that I have 2 Provaris and I think they are outstanding devices. I use them almost exclusively and not for status. Sean knows that about me.
Thanks Roonies, i love u all. You guys are super nice.... I only typed few sentences to ask a question but everyone tries to answer me with an essay. I've learned a lot these days. Please come San Francisco, I'll buy u all a drink LOL!!
I don't like single button devices. I am also not a fan of the design. Newer tanks coming out do not fit as nicely on the Provari as they did even a year ago. I am one of those that wish they would make a few design improvements and add vw to the mix. It would definitely be nice to own only one mod and the Provari would fit that bill nicely but there are too many little things about it that would aggravate me to no end.
I am not a hater. I just know me and it won't work for me as is.
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Perhaps that has something to do with the device and/or the build of the coil. Just like with everything else I did my research & it led me to a KFL+, so I don't have experience building on dozens of different RBA's. I have built dozens of coils for the KFL+, playing around with every parameter possible, and I've never had a coil change on me that much. I've had 1 change by .1 ohm, but that was it. Even so, it's still adjust to taste. I've even found that I adjust the voltage on the same coil, same juice just depending on the time of day. Your taste buds level of perception change depending on multiple factors, time of day, what you ate, how long ago since your last oral intake, etc.
That much swing in resistance would really make me question the device I was using or the attention to detail of whomever built the coil. I've never had anything close to that sort of an issue. Knowing that not all RBAs/builds behave that way, I would think about attacking the problem directly instead of adding another feature to cope with it.
It's opening the floodgates on a heavily debated topic. Just be glad you didn't post it in the General forum. You don't want to know where that would've went. At least we're civil, friendly & intelligent in here... well maybe except for Butch. But we don't blame him, it can happen when you get that old.
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