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[Denrock316]

Yeah... So why is MBV stressing everyone over this? I really don't quite follow how they handled this. This makes the entire e-cig industry look bad when you are so unsure of your own product that you take it down after one flawed study is produced.

I agree. However in Dimitris (the vaping Greek) interview with Doctor F it was said that 3 vendors pulled Cinnamon flavors. I have a feeling that once the good folks at MBV have more info they will return Cinnamon flavors soon. Of course this is purely my speculation.

i think it's difficult to find "independent" studies on anything anymore. the results will be skewed toward whoever paid for it. or maybe i am just jaded and cynical.

Actually I agree and it really kinda sucks you can't just read supposedly scientific reports and believe them before finding out who did them, who paid for them, and even then they can be reported in a misleading way. The worse case is the old FDA report from 2009. There are still people out there who think e-juice has anti-freeze in it. All because a very very tiny trace amount was found in 1 pre-filled cartomizer and this is after testing 18 different manufacturers samples and it's not been found ever since. This is still reported in the mainstream media all the time and they always leave out the 2 biggest facts that it wasn't in an amount that could even remotely be considered toxic and it hasn't ever been found since one very isolated incident 4 years ago. (oops forgot to say the substance found was Diethylene Glycol) hope I spelled that right.

 

[u4ia]

Some people get ahold of some info and just can't stop running it up the flag pole....some of those comments are ridiculous.
Makes me as mad when I get asked..."so you quit smoking, now when are you gonna quit that silly stuff? " Grrrrrr

I hate those conversations, "So when are you going to quit that vaping thing?" "You know, I heard vaping is worse for you than smoking", "If you're gonna keep vaping, you may as well be smoking", "Isn't that dangerous? I read somewhere that vaping is bad for you".
Last time someone said something to me, I got kinda mad and just blurted out rather loudly in a crowd: "Oh what, you read some random Yahoo News article and now you're an expert? What the %$@#!" I gotta admit, it felt kinda good

 

[Joie]

I hate those conversations, "So when are you going to quit that vaping thing?" "You know, I heard vaping is worse for you than smoking", "If you're gonna keep vaping, you may as well be smoking", "Isn't that dangerous? I read somewhere that vaping is bad for you".
Last time someone said something to me, I got kinda mad and just blurted out rather loudly in a crowd: "Oh what, you read some random Yahoo News article and now you're an expert? What the %$@#!" I gotta admit, it felt kinda good

Ha...yeah or you also get to listen to " Hey those things blow up ya know !!! " Answer to that should be "yeah I do too so watch it ! "

 

[kelli]

u4ia, can you tell my why every post you make, i automatically like it? don't get me wrong, i like most of what you say, but i'd rather decide to "like" it myself. but i don't have to. it shows up all by itself!

 

[Seanchai]

Actually I agree and it really kinda sucks you can't just read supposedly scientific reports and believe them before finding out who did them, who paid for them, and even then they can be reported in a misleading way. The worse case is the old FDA report from 2009. There are still people out there who think e-juice has anti-freeze in it. All because a very very tiny trace amount was found in 1 pre-filled cartomizer and this is after testing 18 different manufacturers samples and it's not been found ever since. This is still reported in the mainstream media all the time and they always leave out the 2 biggest facts that it wasn't in an amount that could even remotely be considered toxic and it hasn't ever been found since one very isolated incident 4 years ago. (oops forgot to say the substance found was Diethylene Glycol) hope I spelled that right.

Anyone who is interested in the nitty gritty of how a study works and what it looks like in the "back room" should check out this TED talk by Dr. Ben Goldacre. It's about 13 minutes long, but he's an entertaining and thought-provoking speaker.

 

[Butch]

u4ia, can you tell my why every post you make, i automatically like it? don't get me wrong, i like most of what you say, but i'd rather decide to "like" it myself. but i don't have to. it shows up all by itself!

Ditto
Did I say ditto to yours too?
Yes I like Rush Limbaugh
Ut oh now I'm an outcast

 

[Joie]

u4ia, can you tell my why every post you make, i automatically like it? don't get me wrong, i like most of what you say, but i'd rather decide to "like" it myself. but i don't have to. it shows up all by itself!

I think your reads are being stalked !!!!!!!!!

 

[Cheryl75]

u4ia, can you tell my why every post you make, i automatically like it? don't get me wrong, i like most of what you say, but i'd rather decide to "like" it myself. but i don't have to. it shows up all by itself!

Seriously! Mine shows me the same thing! I thought maybe i clicked on something i shouldnt have and couldnt figure it out. Its a seperate bar that says i like it just below the bar that shows others that have liked it! I was worried about being thought of as a creeper, liking stuff BEFORE i ever read it

 

[mcol]

u4ia, can you tell my why every post you make, i automatically like it? don't get me wrong, i like most of what you say, but i'd rather decide to "like" it myself. but i don't have to. it shows up all by itself!

Happens to me too.

 

[Cheryl75]

Happens to me too.

You mean its all of you also?

 

[DustyZ]

u4ia, can you tell my why every post you make, i automatically like it? don't get me wrong, i like most of what you say, but i'd rather decide to "like" it myself. but i don't have to. it shows up all by itself!

lol, I was just wondering the same thing, I noticed that last night, doesn't happen on anyone else which is very odd. Hmmm, kick backs maybe! jk (Dolphin)

 

[Ms.Kitty]

u4ia, can you tell my why every post you make, i automatically like it? don't get me wrong, i like most of what you say, but i'd rather decide to "like" it myself. but i don't have to. it shows up all by itself!

I think your reads are being stalked !!!!!!!!!

Seriously! Mine shows me the same thing! I thought maybe i clicked on something i shouldnt have and couldnt figure it out. Its a seperate bar that says i like it just below the bar that shows others that have liked it! I was worried about being thought of as a creeper, liking stuff BEFORE i ever read it

Happens to me too.

You mean its all of you also?

ROFLMAO!!!!
It took me til yesterday to figure it out!!
I thought it was a board loading problem...u kno, like how the like buttons don't always show up when u refresh?

 

[Criticalmass]

Happens to me too.

It's a mystery... Happens to me as well.

 

[MDV39]

So does anyonewant to donate sticky bun to me? you know......for science? Guess we were never meant to meet shouldnt have held out for black friday

 

[kelli]

ROFLMAO!!!!
It took me til yesterday to figure it out!!
I thought it was a board loading problem...u kno, like how the like buttons don't always show up when u refresh?

ok so you figured it out? do tell.

 

[Cheryl75]

lol, I was just wondering the same thing, I noticed that last night, doesn't happen on anyone else which is very odd. Hmmm, kick backs maybe! jk (Dolphin)

You telling me he is controlling our minds? our computers? Our brains!!!!!! Oh my!!

 

[Criticalmass]

So does anyonewant to donate sticky bun to me? you know......for science? Guess we were never meant to meet shouldnt have held out for black friday

I emailed support and Josh over at MBV says it is only down temporarily unless they do really find something wrong with it. How long that will take, who knows. Might be a couple days or it might be two months.

 

[kelli]

well i don't feel quite so skeeved out now that i know it's happening to you guys too.

 

[mcol]

So does anyonewant to donate sticky bun to me? you know......for science? Guess we were never meant to meet shouldnt have held out for black friday

I will auction my sticky bun and cinnamon roll stash to the highest bidder.
Nah, just kidding. I think.

 

[Ms.Kitty]

I emailed support and Josh over at MBV says it is only down temporarily unless they do really find something wrong with it. How long that will take, who knows. Might be a couple days or it might be two months.

ughhh...gonna miss sticky bun (got stockpiled on most everything else).
I DO hope it's just a couple days...maybe in time for BF?? ;-)