My Boba's clone

[EddieAdams]

I'm Curious, what are you doing with all these mixes you are making? You had to have gone through a crap load of ml's of e juice in your attempts to clone this e juice. Good work by the way. You got some serious patience man!

I made mostly 5ml and now 10ml samples as I think I'm making progress to allow more for tasting. Most are sitting on a shelf, roughly forty or so. I go back and try a few time to time. Most will be thrown out. It is wasteful but, something learned in every bottle even if it isn't for Bobas. Maybe a personal recipe later on. "This would be great with that flavor that didn't work in Bobas."You know?

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[kuvanos]

I agree that Ben didn't think too deep into Boba's. Most people who adore Boba's call him a genius, which I think is a huge stretch. The guy's vapes taste great and he was one of the first all-VG mixers out there, so respect is due. But the whole Boba's thing was likely just as you said. "I wonder how these would taste together". I think its 3 tobaccos and 2 non-tobaccos, but after that it's unclear so far.

I completely agree with you. Lets face it, he got lucky, and now has made a boat load of money off it. I do agree with three tobaccos, and two flavors. I believe that one of the flavors is vanilla. Vanilla when used correctly, can enhance, and change other flavors. Vanilla also will give that red hue to juices.

 

[EddieAdams]

I completely agree with you. Lets face it, he got lucky, and now has made a boat load of money off it. I do agree with three tobaccos, and two flavors. I believe that one of the flavors is vanilla. Vanilla when used correctly, can enhance, and change other flavors. Vanilla also will give that red hue to juices.

Third that.

I gave vanilla a good thought. Problem with that you're eliminating one of the non tobacco flavors going on what we think we know. Eliminating graham cracker which is the only thing that's gotten the liquid to that darkness. Black cigar adds a red hue later after a steep.

It could be black mile plus as well. Very vanilla. Then you're eliminating a tobacco. The only thing I'm positive on is vz black cigar and honey of some type.

I'll try some different mixes.

Graham cracker
Vz honey flue
Vz black cigar
Ecx black mile+
Nf amaretto hazelnut
TA

Or

Vz honey flue
Vz black cigar
Ecx black mile+
Nf amaretto hazelnut
Hng Mr. Peeper
TA

See that second one minus the GC probably won't be dark enough. It'll will be plenty red though.

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[ihansterx4i]

I made mostly 5ml and now 10ml samples as I think I'm making progress to allow more for tasting. Most are sitting on a shelf, roughly forty or so. I go back and try a few time to time. Most will be thrown out. It is wasteful but, something learned in every bottle even if it isn't for Bobas. Maybe a personal recipe later on. "This would be great with that flavor that didn't work in Bobas."You know?

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Yea I imagine from all these test trials you must have come up with a handful of really good e juices that aren't bobas.

Well I hope you crack the bb code someday, you sure as hell put the work in. Just remember to PM to recipe . I'll be following your progress. Good luck!

 

[kenskog]

Is the #7 still considered the closest thing yet?

I had 6 bottles of random stuff I combined in a 30ml bottle, forgot about it for a month - and gave it a try a few days ago. - And I must say, it was very bobaish. That thick, sour/raisin taste and all. The stuff I combined was three NET's from T-juice, FA RY4, pink spot RY8 and a berry mix.

It lacked coconut, honey and the berry mix wasnt the right kind of sweet.

If the RY8 is changed out with coconut, one of the NET's is changed out with a honey tobacco and the berry mix is changed out for something different sweet (cotton candy perhaps?), I would imagine the result would be fairly close to the real stuff.

 

[ihansterx4i]

EddieAdams must have either cracked the code to bobas or gave up on finding the recipe...

 

[buffaloguy]

Although Im still following the thread I havent been mixing new trials to crack bobas. Ive settled on the mix I made posted here awhile back as closest to bobas as I am going to get. Ive tried some of the others here incl the #7 and they are great recipes but imo they werent as close as what I came up with some time back.

Im still positive the key to bobas is tobacco absolute and that it is indeed not 100%vg as claimed.

 

[thepcbguru34]

Although Im still following the thread I havent been mixing new trials to crack bobas. Ive settled on the mix I made posted here awhile back as closest to bobas as I am going to get. Ive tried some of the others here incl the #7 and they are great recipes but imo they werent as close as what I came up with some time back.

Im still positive the key to bobas is tobacco absolute and that it is indeed not 100%vg as claimed.

Buffaloguy,

I agree with you that TA is an essential ingredient. I could especially taste it when I first tried Boba's fresh out of the mailbox.

I know I may not have much cred on here as I only have a few posts, however I have been a member of ECF for a little while now, mostly as a lurker, and have taken great interest in this thread in particular. I've been vaping for just over a year now and have been diy'ing for almost as long.

After following this thread for several months, I finally got my first bottle of Boba's about a month ago, for "evaluation" purposes lol. I still have about 2-3 mls left out of a 10 ml bottle, and the ONLY reason I have any left at all is because I am trying to save for comparison purposes wrt to making a clone. I wish now I would have bought a much larger bottle so I didn't have to be SOOOO conservative with what I have. This stuff is delicious, and only gets better with age. I think Ben accidentally stumbled upon a masterpiece when he created it. Some say he's a genious; I think he just happened to get lucky. REALLY lucky.

Anyone who knows Boba's as I now do knows that this stuff takes weeks to fully develop. It tastes like a completely different juice than it did a month ago. At first, to me, I got a strong chocolatey-cigary-cinnamony flavor with prominent TA notes, and virtually none of the oatmeal raisin cookie taste it has now. Crazy how this stuff changes!

Anyways, sorry about the long, drawn-out rambling. The reason being is I want to convey my acute interest in this thread and the attempts to clone it, including adding my own $.02. I have tried several versions that others have come up with so far, and a significant number of my own attempts since receiving my bottle of Boba's a month ago. After analyzing the overall consensus of what people believe is in it, I have concluded a couple of ingredients as being pretty much a sure thing (please correct me if I'm way off here): VZ Black Cigar and/or FE Black Mile Plus (I've so far only tried the Black Mile Plus as I don't have VZ Black Cigar...yet lol), Graham Cracker and/or Cinnamon Danish (I've so far only tried TFA Graham Cracker Clear and have yet to test with TFA Cinnamon Danish), and Tobacco Absolute. The rest seems to be a rather evasive mystery up to this point, but that may change soon. Very soon.

IMHO I kinda sorta think there just might possibly be a honey type ingredient, though I'm not too sure about that lol. I'm leaning very heavily toward another ingredient. To my limited knowledge, this particular ingredient hasn't been tested yet. I'm about to mix up a couple batches tonight using this yet untried ingredient, and will definitely be reporting back on my conclusions, even if I'm way off. If I crack it then great, I'll consider posting the recipe (haha). if not, then so be it. I'll post another close but no (black) cigar recipe. Hopefully some progress will be made at least. What's great about it is that I don't have to start from scratch; I get to piggy back on the trials and errors of all those who came before me, and to whom the real credit is due

So stay tuned...(I know ya'll will! LOL!)

 

[buffaloguy]

All the testing with versions on black and mile type flavorings is the issue. Using that will never replicate an actual clone of bobas. The flavor profile of it just isnt correct. It certainly is good to vape and mix with though. Could you come close using that flavoring to make a clone of Bobas, mabye. I doubt it though.

Ive said it before. If the flavoring did not exist in 2009 then it isnt in Bobas.

Is Ben a genius? No, hardly. He got lucky. Does he have a couple decent juices? Sure but so does alot of mixers. But like all of us he had to use what was available at the time.

 

[Cyrus Vap]

Buffalo guy I recall some of your posts but don't remember and can't find a 'final' version or verdict on what you felt was the closet you got to Bobas...can you recap for us?

 

[yooperdad]

Buffalo guy I recall some of your posts but don't remember and can't find a 'final' version or verdict on what you felt was the closet you got to Bobas...can you recap for us?

Cyrus Vap, yesterday I was reading your posts and reviews from 2012 on VZ flavors. Very enjoyable and educational. Thank you. Then it seems that the VZ threads just kind of dried up. Where are you hanging out these days?

 

[buffaloguy]

For you Cyrus I dug it up.

I made about 25 different mixes. Different percentages, different flavors. Oddly this was the very first recipe of all of them, and imo it was the closest of my efforts and the nearest to bobas out of the other recipes I tried.

My posts on testing start around page 98 with obeservations after ordering bobas before that.

Notes below still hold true. What I believe is missing is the "correct" cinnamon with a buttery note to it. Whether that is red hots, cinn danish, gingerbread, or another Im not sure.

Well I made some tasty nice vapes and they are close, but no Bobas yet. The recipe below is actually really yummy in its own right.

While I feel I have a good approximation of actual ingredients the percentages need adjusting yet.

What I have used is the following:
Scubatdan's Tobacco Absolute blend (in alc. I found tpa tob absolute blend alc to be easier to use in this case than TA pure). It can be made from TA pure via dans recipe here on the forums. @10%
TPA Cinnamon Danish @5%
Tpa Double Chocolate @1%
TPA Graham Cracker @1%
Some distilled water. @7%

I used too much cinn danish and not enough graham cracker. its not close enough at all yet and I need to mix some more stuff this afternoon. However I do believe I am on the right track.

Another note of thought is that my mix was much thinner with the dw than bobas. So with the flavorings above Im going to eliminate more of the dw in this round.

 

[Sad Society]

Black n mile plus and VZ black cigar are really similar in taste. They are so similar that some would not recognize a difference. And IMO these are not used in BB. But I do like vaping this flavor on it's own.

 

[EddieAdams]

6/19/14

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[FLExJuice]

I've been away for awhile and actually came back to vaping....you guys been busy and I got lots to read to catch up.

 

[JohnnyDill]

For you Cyrus I dug it up.

I made about 25 different mixes. Different percentages, different flavors. Oddly this was the very first recipe of all of them, and imo it was the closest of my efforts and the nearest to bobas out of the other recipes I tried.

My posts on testing start around page 98 with obeservations after ordering bobas before that.

Notes below still hold true. What I believe is missing is the "correct" cinnamon with a buttery note to it. Whether that is red hots, cinn danish, gingerbread, or another Im not sure.

I tried Buffaloguy's recipe and I like it MUCH, MUCH better than the "#7" recipe with the cigar flavoring. Wow, is this stuff good. I lowered the Cinnamon Danish to 4% and upped the graham cracker to 4%. I also added 2 drops of FA Cinnamon Ceylon to my 5ml sample. I will blow through this in no time. Thanks for the great recipe!

 

[Cyrus Vap]

Cyrus Vap, yesterday I was reading your posts and reviews from 2012 on VZ flavors. Very enjoyable and educational. Thank you. Then it seems that the VZ threads just kind of dried up. Where are you hanging out these days?

I'm glad you enjoyed. Shortly thereafter I rapidly plunged into the world of unflavored vaping and the subtleties of different nicotine bases... basically never looked back. Once in a while though I enjoy a good flavored vape

 

[Cyrus Vap]

For you Cyrus I dug it up.

I made about 25 different mixes. Different percentages, different flavors. Oddly this was the very first recipe of all of them, and imo it was the closest of my efforts and the nearest to bobas out of the other recipes I tried.

My posts on testing start around page 98 with obeservations after ordering bobas before that.

Notes below still hold true. What I believe is missing is the "correct" cinnamon with a buttery note to it. Whether that is red hots, cinn danish, gingerbread, or another Im not sure.

Thank you my brother, I'll give it a whirl. I too am convinced Boba's absolutely has Cinnamon Danish and probably Graham Cracker in it, regardless of what anyone says about PG, VG, etc.

 

[Sad Society]

I tried Buffaloguy's recipe and I like it MUCH, MUCH better than the "#7" recipe with the cigar flavoring. Wow, is this stuff good. I lowered the Cinnamon Danish to 4% and upped the graham cracker to 4%. I also added 2 drops of FA Cinnamon Ceylon to my 5ml sample. I will blow through this in no time. Thanks for the great recipe!

Could you (or someone else) perhaps post Buffaloguy's recipe again...Or do I have to go look for it?

Thanks.

 

[Porksmuggler]

Could you (or someone else) perhaps post Buffaloguy's recipe again...Or do I have to go look for it?

Thanks.

It's just a few posts up #2032