Had one like him when I was smoking. He sat in the middle of a large room, the smoking area was 3 floors down and outside. but he was complaing about the smoke coming up the stair well and down the hall. After 3 months, he was no longer there, think the bosses got tired of listening to him wine. Have the office next to him start plugging in some air freshers, seems that everyone likes to have something to complain about.
My co-worker says my vapor is irritating his asthma !!!
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Yea,,he sounds like a little cry baby. Any chance you could vape a different juice that perhaps would be less "aromatic"? I really think a few of us should pay him a shut up visit. We visit him and he learns to shut up.
Dang, I sound terrible. Perhaps I've just seen too many of these snivelers.
I do wish you much success in "beating this rap.
Dang, I sound terrible. Perhaps I've just seen too many of these snivelers.
I do wish you much success in "beating this rap.
Hi... I'm new to all this, but I too have asthma, and since I started Vapping a month ago, my cough is completely gone. My son, who is 5, also has asthma. He requires 3 breathing treatments a day when he has a major flair up, which is OFTEN, and I can vape right next to him all the time. But I only use the fruity flavor e-juice.... IMO, your co-worker is a baby, that probably enjoys complaining for the sake of complaining. Just saying. 
Good Luck!
Good Luck!
Yea,,he sounds like a little cry baby. Any chance you could vape a different juice that perhaps would be less "aromatic"? I really think a few of us should pay him a shut up visit. We visit him and he learns to shut up.
Dang, I sound terrible. Perhaps I've just seen too many of these snivelers.
I do wish you much success in "beating this rap:.
Hilarious... a shut up visit... made me LOL
Yeah, walk by with a steaming cup of tea and see if he complains about that too.
As a health professional myself I can say that it's quite possible your vapor (or something else entirely) could be aggravating his asthma. As others have suggested you might try a different flavoras one ingredient could be a trigger for him while others may not.
I appreciate the folks with asthma/kids with asthma who have posted how great their vaping has been for their asthma, but everyone's triggers are different. I would hope that those with the condition would understand this and be more sympathetic, but alas, we are all human I guess.
I appreciate the folks with asthma/kids with asthma who have posted how great their vaping has been for their asthma, but everyone's triggers are different. I would hope that those with the condition would understand this and be more sympathetic, but alas, we are all human I guess.
I agree. Try stealth vaping. If no complaints, psychosomatic. It's not uncommon for people with respiratory diseases to develop psychosomatic tendencies, not because they want to be difficult, but because their condition causes them so much distress when triggered.
This is probably true to some degree as well. I was out a few days ago about to get on an elevator and the door opened just as I was letting out a cloud of vapor. The lady onboard already coughed, seemingly reflexively as if I were blowing smoke. a) it wasn'tt smoke of course and b) even the vapor could not have reached her by the time she coughed what seemed to be a fake cough anyway. She didn't cough again or seem to be sniffly, but then again maybe I'm assuming too much and it was coincidental.
While it's not impossible that your co-worker is experiencing some irritant from your vapor, I tend to agree that it seems unlikely, given the distance from your office and the size of room. However, you might try "testing" the situation by plugging in some air fresheners, as suggested by OldDragon. If your co-worker has a problem with your vapor then he/she would also possibly have a problem with an air freshener. No problem with just an air freshener and the co-worker maybe psychosomatic.
My sister (a vehement non-smoker) still views vaping as smoking, and reacts the same way.
just ask him if he thinks it is the smell, if he thinks it is ask him what smell he likes or can stand and get that kind o flavor. i suggest a coffee or maybe tea flavor, what ever you like. dont fight with him as much as you might like to, thats a fight you will never win.
There was a similar thread long ago where this vaper was visiting a relative and whenever she vaped the relative would start coughing and finally requested that she take it outside, insisting that the vapor was bothering her.
Whenever the relative turned her back the vaper would have a puff and the relative was miraculously cured, no more coughing.
Whenever the relative turned her back the vaper would have a puff and the relative was miraculously cured, no more coughing.
I had a guy from the office say "he didn't want to breath 2nd hand vapor" to which everyone else (non-smokers) gave him a razzin for saying it. They were glad I am vaping vs smoking - cool!
But what he said after that got me thinking, "I don't want to breath the vapor coming out of your lungs - yuck!"
I fired back "well I don't really want to breath what's coming out of your lungs either - but what choice do I have?"
He replied "yea but you cant see my exhalation!"
Well, I guess he's got me there...
The whole conversation was a laughing matter - we all enjoyed the banter. But it was easy to see where some people are at with new stuff and things they don't understand...
Jim
But what he said after that got me thinking, "I don't want to breath the vapor coming out of your lungs - yuck!"
I fired back "well I don't really want to breath what's coming out of your lungs either - but what choice do I have?"
He replied "yea but you cant see my exhalation!"
Well, I guess he's got me there...
The whole conversation was a laughing matter - we all enjoyed the banter. But it was easy to see where some people are at with new stuff and things they don't understand...
Jim
Good to hear from an actual health professional. And I certainly agree with you that everyone has different triggers (there are a few women I work with that wear perfumes that absolutely kill me). But in your opinion as a health professional, does this guy's complaint sound remotely reasonable when one takes the distances into consideration?
As a related note, the vapor that is exhaled from e-cigs appears to be significantly heavier than analog smoke. From this "fact" I infer that it would circulate in a room very poorly. Therefore, even if one assumes that e-cig vapor has some offensive (or harmful) qualities, I think it would take pretty close proximity for it to even matter.
Well, there have been quite a few reasonable suggestions on how to deal with this co-worker. Whiners are just so hard to tolerate these days that stories like this get everyone a little miffed. Heck, we could start an entire sub-forum just for complaining about whiners.
Agreed. With no offense intended to those who do vape in the office, I personally think it's a bit unprofessional. I prefer to do it outside. Personal preference.
A} I would simply try another flavor and hold it in longer so he can't see it.
B} I'd also inform him that what comes out of my pv is the one of the same ingredients in his inhaler.
C} I draw the line at going outside to vape because one person or anyone is complaining.
I worked too hard to quit to smoking so I will not be using my pv in a manner that makes it seem as if I'm doing something illegal or wrong.
I am not ashamed to be vaping and I won't be made to feel this way either, even if it looks like smoking.
No way!
C.B..
B} I'd also inform him that what comes out of my pv is the one of the same ingredients in his inhaler.
C} I draw the line at going outside to vape because one person or anyone is complaining.
I worked too hard to quit to smoking so I will not be using my pv in a manner that makes it seem as if I'm doing something illegal or wrong.
I am not ashamed to be vaping and I won't be made to feel this way either, even if it looks like smoking.
No way!
C.B..
20 feet away?
I have asthma, and while I understand different people might have different "triggers", the only things that affect me from 20' away are:
mass pollen
extreme seasonal changes
other situations I can't easily escape or wait out because they cover massive areas of effect.
Every other trigger is by contact, or long-term CLOSE exposure. In my opinion, to be affecting this co-worker, you'd have to be hot-boxing your open office, somehow. How many co-workers in HIS 20' radius own pets, wear perfume/cologne, smoke analogs?
On the rare off-chance that your dissipated vape from 20' away IS HIS ACTUAL CAUSE of suffering, it is also in my opinion, that someone with that level of sensitivity had better be well prepared to battle an entire world that is out to kill him. Puff your meds, man. I find it rather hard to believe that, in this situation, there aren't more health-offensive things going on much closer to this co-worker.
Then again, you can always suggest that you can take extra pains to smell like an analog... seems like he wasn't making complaints before the vape?
I have asthma, and while I understand different people might have different "triggers", the only things that affect me from 20' away are:
mass pollen
extreme seasonal changes
other situations I can't easily escape or wait out because they cover massive areas of effect.
Every other trigger is by contact, or long-term CLOSE exposure. In my opinion, to be affecting this co-worker, you'd have to be hot-boxing your open office, somehow. How many co-workers in HIS 20' radius own pets, wear perfume/cologne, smoke analogs?
On the rare off-chance that your dissipated vape from 20' away IS HIS ACTUAL CAUSE of suffering, it is also in my opinion, that someone with that level of sensitivity had better be well prepared to battle an entire world that is out to kill him. Puff your meds, man. I find it rather hard to believe that, in this situation, there aren't more health-offensive things going on much closer to this co-worker.
Then again, you can always suggest that you can take extra pains to smell like an analog... seems like he wasn't making complaints before the vape?
I have asthma, and as you can see form my sig I've been analog free for long enough not to have died from PV's! BUT...
First thing in the morning the pv does make me feel tight chested, I'm going with it to try and work out if its from the amount of oxygen in all the vape hitting my lungs, a cloud of steaming vape can't feel like a lungful of air....
Also, remember that when you are an asthmatic smoking stops many of your asthma attacks purely because it kills off the blood hairs which are usually triggered, so my blood hairs are growing back and I will notice that dust mites will trigger an asthma attack which I haven't had happen since smoking. But before I smoked I was in hospital 37 times a years and been intubated etc so I am not looking forward to what may occur.
Going back to your original question (although it appears to be well answered already) - I would not let your vape get anywhere near this asthmatic if you've tried explaining and they still aint happy then dont antagonise. What you must remember is that even with asthmatics who will deny this.. 90% of the attack is in the mind. We are usually getting enough oxygen to survive a walk to hospital for a nebuliser, or even enough to just ride it out - but there is nothing so scary as the feeling and people cannot understand it unless they experience it, so usually the attack is 90% fear and panic making things worse even for calm people their brain is going overtime. IF you make this a bone of contention this person will associate the vape with asthma in their head and a whiff of it will physically trigger an attack, regardless of whether it really is a trigger for them. so avoid it!
I have had the necessary tests over the years and my only trigger is dust mites, but I could have an attack in a ISO14644 dust free room if my brain thought something in there was a trigger to me.
The last thing you want to do is let someone go to hospital in an ambulance from second hand vape genuine or otherwise, that would be horrific for the vape image and we need to catch monkey gently or however that saying goes!
Love to all you happy vapers!
Dunx
First thing in the morning the pv does make me feel tight chested, I'm going with it to try and work out if its from the amount of oxygen in all the vape hitting my lungs, a cloud of steaming vape can't feel like a lungful of air....
Also, remember that when you are an asthmatic smoking stops many of your asthma attacks purely because it kills off the blood hairs which are usually triggered, so my blood hairs are growing back and I will notice that dust mites will trigger an asthma attack which I haven't had happen since smoking. But before I smoked I was in hospital 37 times a years and been intubated etc so I am not looking forward to what may occur.
Going back to your original question (although it appears to be well answered already) - I would not let your vape get anywhere near this asthmatic if you've tried explaining and they still aint happy then dont antagonise. What you must remember is that even with asthmatics who will deny this.. 90% of the attack is in the mind. We are usually getting enough oxygen to survive a walk to hospital for a nebuliser, or even enough to just ride it out - but there is nothing so scary as the feeling and people cannot understand it unless they experience it, so usually the attack is 90% fear and panic making things worse even for calm people their brain is going overtime. IF you make this a bone of contention this person will associate the vape with asthma in their head and a whiff of it will physically trigger an attack, regardless of whether it really is a trigger for them. so avoid it!
I have had the necessary tests over the years and my only trigger is dust mites, but I could have an attack in a ISO14644 dust free room if my brain thought something in there was a trigger to me.
The last thing you want to do is let someone go to hospital in an ambulance from second hand vape genuine or otherwise, that would be horrific for the vape image and we need to catch monkey gently or however that saying goes!
Love to all you happy vapers!
Dunx
ROTFL, that's classic! I can just imagine the look on your face doing this even though I don't know what your face looks like!
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