My employer banned use of e-cigs...

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Yibba

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...or they will be starting on the first of the month. They have really strict tobacco restrictions (analog smoking can't even be done outside the building, must be done in your 'personal vehicle'). And they have amended company policy to include e-cigarettes with tobacco products. This means I will have to go all the way outside to my car just to vape. Has anyone else come across anything like this in their workplace?

I'm probably just going to take more trips to the ladies room and stealth vape - lol :vapor:
 

Sewnmachine

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Here is the situation at the Childrens Hospital I work at;
ALL smoking on campus is absolutely forbidden - not just for employees but for the parents of patients as well.
ALL nicotine products are forbidden for "new hires". If you test positive for nicotine you will NOT be hired.
Nicotine products include cigarettes, cigars, snuff, and yes...... e-cigarettes.
All manor of smoking cessation products are provided to employees free of charge as are support classes. Employees that were smokers prior to the new policy are "waivered" but strongly urged to quit.

From a medical stand point we all know the inherent dangers of the carcinogens, tars and additives in analog cigarettes. However nicotine is also a vaso-constrictor. In other words it can all by itself raise blood pressure and contribute to coronary artery disease.

Now, again, from an employers perspective, as medical insurance costs rise, it becomes an even greater insurable risk to insure employees that willing engage in an unhealthy lifestyle ( this also includes obesity due to indiscriminate diet).
As an employee we are given all sorts of free screenings for cholesterol, blood pressure, weight watchers programs, walking marathons etc.....etc.....etc.....
This is done in an attempt to have the healthiest workforce possible.....and thus.....keep our insurance and premiums manageable. When you really think about it.... it is a Win/Win.

And this would work out beautifully in a perfect world.
The reality is - stressed out parents stand outside on the street (off campus) and smoke,
And I - - - stealth vape in the womens bathroom.

But the logic is sound.
 

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Here is the situation at the Childrens Hospital I work at;
ALL smoking on campus is absolutely forbidden - not just for employees but for the parents of patients as well.
ALL nicotine products are forbidden for "new hires". If you test positive for nicotine you will NOT be hired.
Nicotine products include cigarettes, cigars, snuff, and yes...... e-cigarettes.
All manor of smoking cessation products are provided to employees free of charge as are support classes. Employees that were smokers prior to the new policy are "waivered" but strongly urged to quit.

From a medical stand point we all know the inherent dangers of the carcinogens, tars and additives in analog cigarettes. However nicotine is also a vaso-constrictor. In other words it can all by itself raise blood pressure and contribute to coronary artery disease.

Now, again, from an employers perspective, as medical insurance costs rise, it becomes an even greater insurable risk to insure employees that willing engage in an unhealthy lifestyle ( this also includes obesity due to indiscriminate diet).
As an employee we are given all sorts of free screenings for cholesterol, blood pressure, weight watchers programs, walking marathons etc.....etc.....etc.....
This is done in an attempt to have the healthiest workforce possible.....and thus.....keep our insurance and premiums manageable. When you really think about it.... it is a Win/Win.

And this would work out beautifully in a perfect world.
The reality is - stressed out parents stand outside on the street (off campus) and smoke,
And I - - - stealth vape in the womens bathroom.

But the logic is sound.

Are they banning obesity as well?
 

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I can't think of anything more dangerous than breathing hospital air. Indoor air quality in hospitals has always been a problem – the air is not only polluted by bacteria and viruses, but also by volatile organic compounds (VOCs), mold and fungi as well as chemicals such as glutaraldehyde (used for equipment sterilization), diethyl ether (anesthetic gas) and formaldehyde (used to preserve tissue).
Maybe they should ban breathing all together, that would be safer.
 

Yibba

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Ms. Yibba sorry to hear that, sadly more and more businesses are cracking down on it since the fda decided to classify them as tobacco....

Thanks to everyone for the great feedback and experiences! It's nice to talk about it with people who share my pain - lol

I guess it's just a little frustrating because I quit smoking just over a year ago (yay!) and they are fine with nicotine gum/patches/lozenges. I started with gum, but it wasn't working, and I've been using my v4l ecigs in the breakroom since I switched to them last November.

No one at my location has a problem with it, but they've been banned company wide and it seems a little like it's because it looks like smoking. I hope legislation catches up with the awesomeness of vaping soon!
 

jeffree

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Yibba, I have just two words for your employer... those .......s.

I think my friends here know that I usually argue on the side of vaping discretely to avoid ruffling feathers. So easy to do when people are green. But when I read of an employer like yours, even if great in other ways, I want to take to the streets to some jams from the old MC5. Or Iggy. Really hard to hear of such a clearly misguided (I mean stupid) effort, but thanks for passing it along.

Good luck with the stealthing. And to think that one benefit of quitting cigs was no more sneaking around. Next politician, any party, who takes a positive stand for e-cigs, gets my vote.
 

Sewnmachine

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Ha Ha - no my employer is not banning obesity, just trying to promote a healthy lifestyle. And because it is a pediatric facility there is a responsibility to set a good example for children to not see employees and visitors hanging around outside smoking.

That being said, I, too have vaped openly at adult hospitals - the Cleveland Clinic in fact. And while Cleveland clinic does have a campus wide "no smoking" policy for their employees and visitors alike, they didn't even seem to notice or care that I was openly vaping in the surgical waiting lounge.

So, I'm ok with the policies - and I still believe I'm doing myself a favor by not smoking cigarettes regardless of where I can or can not vape. When I'm at work it's really just good sense not to try to buck the system. I have a job and I want to keep it. That's not the mountain I want to die on.
 

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Hmm. I wonder when they'll start testing us for butter. Or Big Macs. Or potato chips etc., et al, ad nauseum.

Who wants to move with me to Anarchy Island?

It depends. How's the climate there?

Banning something because "it looks like smoking" is ridiculous. If that is the opinion of the majority, the majority are IDIOTS!
 
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