My first bad vaping experience

[Deschain]

Just thinking about the way that some folks market e-cigs - "beat the bans, smoke where you like" sort of thing.

It sort of sounds like cheating, the ignorant who see these adverts may feel that vapers are just trying "smoke" in another way and feel threatened by it...then again, there are just the plain pig ignorant types who are simply closed to new ideas (like the guy the OP encountered who just seemed unpleasant and arrogant).

I'm sort of disapointed that nobody has challenged me yet, but I am not really blatant about vaping and generally don't do it in shops and the like, much like I never smoked in these places...I can wait a few minutes until I get outside.


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[ladysolitary85]

Just thinking about the way that some folks market e-cigs - "beat the bans, smoke where you like" sort of thing.

It sort of sounds like cheating, the ignorant who see these adverts may feel that vapers are just trying "smoke" in another way and feel threatened by it...then again, there are just the plain pig ignorant types who are simply closed to new ideas (like the guy the OP encountered who just seemed unpleasant and arrogant).

I'm sort of disapointed that nobody has challenged me yet, but I am not really blatant about vaping and generally don't do it in shops and the like, much like I never smoked in these places...I can wait a few minutes until I get outside.




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I definitely agree with you on this one. That shouldn't be the way e-cigs are advertised but they are. I usually only use my e-cig at my home, outside if I'm out and about and the mall (usually around my e-cig guy just because I know I wont look as bad. At least then people can go up and find out what its about rather than harassing me over it.

 

[Caesarea]

Agree with you folks. After all would you be happy if someone said: "Pardon me but just let me blow this unknown vapour into the air you are breathing" ? Or worse still just did it.
Some understanding is needed, or we may be seen as too pushy, or even threatening.

C.

 

[Halcyon]

Agree with you folks. After all would you be happy if someone said: "Pardon me but just let me blow this unknown vapour into the air you are breathing" ? Or worse still just did it.

This is a very valid point that I will take into consideration before vaping inside in front of people again, thanks

 

[peregrine16]

That day, his excuse for being belligerent was your e-cigarette. Another day, who knows what he'll have for an excuse. On the other hand, it's a lost battle trying to enlighten the intransigent

 

[jennlsnoopy]

If I use it in a non-smoking area I will call it a "vaporizor" if I'm in a smoking place like the casino I call it an "electronic cigarette." I notice you get a better reaction this way.

Also, I have had mostly good reactions to it, but have also a couple of bad reactions. One guy I work with is convinced that it has "antifreeze" in it and will not believe anything I say when I try to correct him. Oh well, it's his choice. I still can't understand why he thinks its ok to smoke his analogs if he's so concered about the antifreeze thing. Before he "did his research" he had tried mine and liked it. Maybe he needs to research whats in an analog.

 

[Puff-e]

I think "e-cigs" need to be further segregated from analog cigarettes. Calling the devices "e-cigarettes," is already a misconception. They are not cigarettes, at all. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck. So, why work to make the electronic cigarette look like an analog, and even call it one. They should just be nicotine vaporizers. Call it what it is. I'm sure you will still run into people who are closed minded. However, there are many who will turn their shoulder to it, just for its label as a cigarette device. They are not related! Anyway, that's my 2 cents. Peace,

 

[sherid]

I bought an e cig specifically to use it in places with smoking bans. Many others still do that. Although I eventually found myself using it for much more than defiance of smoking bans, that was what drew me to it. Without that advantage, a huge customer base for e cigarettes is lost. That goes for calling it a vaporizer rather than an e cigarette. New customers are NOT looking for a vaporizer. They are looking for a smoking alternative. The bottom line is that if you hide and pretend that it is not simply a smoking alternative with the decided advantage of using it in smoking banned places, you play right into the hand of ASH. If you have read anything at all about ASH's objections to e cigarettes, you would not be playing nice nice with their plans.

 

[sherid]

I think "e-cigs" need to be further segregated from analog cigarettes. Calling the devices "e-cigarettes," is already a misconception. They are not cigarettes, at all. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck. So, why work to make the electronic cigarette look like an analog, and even call it one. They should just be nicotine vaporizers. Call it what it is. I'm sure you will still run into people who are closed minded. However, there are many who will turn their shoulder to it, just for its label as a cigarette device. They are not related! Anyway, that's my 2 cents. Peace,

Yeah, right! Do you want vapor? Do you want nicotine? If you do, then you are searching for something that behaves like a cigarette even if it doesn't resemble one. I have had basically every kind of e cig since I started, and a year later, I still prefer the ones that resemble cigarettes. I, on the other hand, am not fond of those that resemble crack pipes, but that is simply my personal preference.

 

[kristin]

If I use it in a non-smoking area I will call it a "vaporizor" if I'm in a smoking place like the casino I call it an "electronic cigarette." I notice you get a better reaction this way.

Also, I have had mostly good reactions to it, but have also a couple of bad reactions. One guy I work with is convinced that it has "antifreeze" in it and will not believe anything I say when I try to correct him. Oh well, it's his choice. I still can't understand why he thinks its ok to smoke his analogs if he's so concered about the antifreeze thing. Before he "did his research" he had tried mine and liked it. Maybe he needs to research whats in an analog.

I'm sure you told him that the tiny bit of "antifreeze" stuff found in the one e-cig cartridge came from the nictoine taken out of real tobacco and that his analog has even more antifreeze in it than any PV?

 

[gooney0]

I wouldn't use it indoors as it could be considered rude. As someone pointed out I wouldn't spray anything into the air such as perfume, or lysol either.

Some people get angry too easily and turn simple misunderstandings into arguments or fights. These people don't think for a second that the other guy may have a reason for doing what they're doing.

What really burns me is I never wanted to bother anyone with my smoking. This is why we had smoking sections. Once the smoking sections are all gone there will be very few places where I can use a PV without confrontation.

I hope that previously smoking - friendly places will allow PVs in time. I don't know if they can though. Business owners aren't usually looking to fight the government, they just want to make a living.

-Gooney0

 

[jennlsnoopy]

I'm sure you told him that the tiny bit of "antifreeze" stuff found in the one e-cig cartridge came from the nictoine taken out of real tobacco and that his analog has even more antifreeze in it than any PV?

I did. I don't think he believed me. He just gave me a look and didn't say anything so I dropped it after that. I have two other people at work that I got to get one and they both did their research and don't understand this guy at all. They both think they are much better than analogs, so I did my job. Can't convince everyone.

 

[crashtestjeep]

History will show us that what people dont know of....they are afraid of. Whether it be culture, lifestyles or PVs. An uneducated person is an ignorant person. Whether or not they are willing to let themselves be educated, well, thats another satory.

IMO, you will encounter plenty of people willing to learn, and some that wont. MY ADVICE? Always be prepared for both, and if they want to be mean, kill them with niceness/politeness. IE) I appreciate your opinions and concerns sir/maam, but if you would like to know a lil more about these things, Im willing to show you and give you an incrdible website where you can further educate yourselves on PVs.

 

[kristin]

I did. I don't think he believed me. He just gave me a look and didn't say anything so I dropped it after that. I have two other people at work that I got to get one and they both did their research and don't understand this guy at all. They both think they are much better than analogs, so I did my job. Can't convince everyone.

LOL! Can't fix stupid.

 

[Shortstuff116]

The most common dictionary definition is:

cig-a-rette  [sig-uh-ret, sig-uh-ret]:

–noun
a cylindrical roll of finely cut tobacco cured for smoking, considerably smaller than most cigars and usually wrapped in thin white paper.

Technically speaking, what we commonly refer to as an e-cigarette is nothing more than a battery operated nicotine vaporizer.

Last week I was in my local Wal-Mart and as I left the checkout counter I noticed two of the store managers (higher-ups) standing at a supervisors station. I walked directly up to them and told them I wanted to ask them a stupid question. They both smiled and said that they've heard them all and no question is really stupid. So I asked them if they'd ever heard of an electronic cigarette which they both shook their heads no but one said that she'd heard about something like that before.

So I pulled my KR808D-1 which looks just like a real cigarette out of my shirt pocket and showed it to them which they were immediately curious about. I quickly explained the parts (battery, atomizer and liquid nicotine cartridge) and said "Just for demonstration purposes, let me show you how it works." I gave it a good vape and they seemed a little surprised at the light vapor I exhaled, but I then reasured them that there was no smoke but only a water vapor that disapated quickly with no smell. I told them that they may start to see these types of vaporizers used in their store and not to get too quickly alarmed if they see someone that they think is really smoking inside.

I told them that if anything I just wanted to let them know what an electronic cigarette really was and that it was not harmful to anyone in any way and they actually thanked me for explaining it to them and I left the store feeling that I did a good thing at least coming right out and explaining it to them in a good way.

I also am one that has had no problem in the past not smoking where I shouldn't. Even at the casino in the smoking section I used to hold my analog high in the air resting my hand on the slot machine (for example) so as not to bother the people next to me whether they smoked or not. A little courteousy can go a long way.

But if someone was to ever question or confront me about "smoking" when in fact I am vaping, I would simply tell them that I quit smoking at 11:30 a.m. on the 4th of November 2009 and I am using a personal vaporizer. I would then offer to explain/demonstrate it to them if they would like to learn about them.

Steve

 

[James113]

Some people just aren't ready to accept the world isn't a place for close minded turds anymore XD

 

[Halcyon]

@shortstuff:

I like hearing this. I've already done this in a waffle house one time and all of the employees thought it was really cool, and admitted they thought it was strange until they realized there was no smell. From now on, when I will be sitting in a place for more than 5 minutes vaping, I'm going to kindly ask one of the employees (a manager preferably) if its violating any policy or would bother their customers.

 

[AngusATAT]

I gave it a good vape and they seemed a little surprised at the light vapor I exhaled, but I then reasured them that there was no smoke but only a water vapor that disapated quickly with no smell.

Actually, you're not exhaling water vapor. You're exhaling PG/VG vapor with small amounts of nicotine and whatever flavoring is in your juice. If your body absorbed all of that stuff, there would be no vapor when you exhale.

The only way to exhale water vapor would be to vape water.

Just for clarification.

 

[Chasm]

i tend to use the term "vaporizer" rather than "cigarette", it helps ALOT

Tell'em that your mother (and probably your grandmother, too) had a vaporizer but it was too big to take along when they went shopping and they only used it to vaporize things like Vicks VapoRub.

And then point out that eucalyptus oil and camphor would be pretty nasty stuff if the only way to imbibe it were to smoke shredded eucalyptus leaves and camphor.

Gotta give them something to think about that they might see the light.

 

[pigelty]

As far as vapinig in public places, I would strongly advise against it.

It's probably ok to, but it' s alarming in the public eye and it will just raise more controversy towards ecigs in general. Now is not the best time to do that since everyone is questioning the safety of ecigs.

I understand you want to smoke in public places, but please don't.