There is more to using stacked batteries than just exceeding their amp limits, and matched pairs.
There are just far to many "what ifs" when stacking batteries.
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There is more to using stacked batteries than just exceeding their amp limits, and matched pairs.
There are just far to many "what ifs" when stacking batteries.
By boosting. Will not get into technical how dc dc converters work, but think of it it takes more amp from the battery to give you more voltage.
Ahh .. so the more boosting volts applied the shorter battery life. Same as with mechanical mods building very low sub ohm builds. Lower resistance= more watts. I see ty.
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Well not exactly. Output voltage doesn't matter (nor resistance). Watts matter. If you set it at 15 watts, whether you use 3 ohm coil or 1 ohm coil, the board will withdraw the same amount of amps from the battery and the battery will last the same. Don't think using a higher ohms will save you battery, it is only and only lowering the wattage which would save you the battery.
I always wondered why some cloud chasers with box mods carry a couple 4 packs of batteries everywhere they go. I use maybe 2 batterys a day on a vape heavy day. Guess I better restock my supply of 30A batteries huh? lol
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OIC and Aal..thanks alot because I know nothing or little to nothing about these DNA mods.
Sorry, I didn't see your post until now Frocket. I think the cost difference in high volume cigalike or eGo class production for a different wire type is less than a penny per unit. Yes, that adds up, but being able to sell more volume will overcome that fast. Volume is profit in any business and I think that's the reason this will be developed.
Low ohm coils do not require any more battery amp draw than high ohm coils as long as the watts are the same and watts are what count in vaping. So, the first company to miniaturize the size of VW regulation that includes temperature control probably wins a big share of the high volume cigalike/eGo market. How much would this cost per unit? Well, if it costs $10 per DNA40 for the temperature control and all the other upgrades at current DNA40 volume, I would think in terms of pennies again.
IMO the biggest problem for manufacturers is the uncertainty of potential market regulation in the US and Europe right now.
LOL actuall LMFAO
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Just because it has the wattage available doesn't mean that you have to use it. Just makes somewhat future proof. Notice I said somewhat, at the rate things are changing who the heck knows?
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Matt -- That is the only reason I even ordered a DNA30. I doubt I will ever even go beyond 20W.
One idiot doesn't make it a national problem. I have only heard of around 3 "battery explosions" since I started vaping. Out of the total number of vapers out there that is a fairly statistically insignificant number. Of course not insignificant if you were the one it blew up on.
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Matt, I just noticed you avatar...thank you for serving.
Stacking batteries can be dangerous. The problem is when people get careless with them. It only takes a single mistake for things to go wrong and with stacked 18650s there is a very significant amount of power available if something does go wrong. I have stacked 18350s and it is a pain tracking the pairs and monitoring voltage when removed from the device and from the charger. It was fine when I need extra power out of a Vamo for a few days, but I don't want the hassle on a day to day basis.
Stacking batteries can be dangerous. The problem is when people get careless with them. It only takes a single mistake for things to go wrong and with stacked 18650s there is a very significant amount of power available if something does go wrong. I have stacked 18350s and it is a pain tracking the pairs and monitoring voltage when removed from the device and from the charger. It was fine when I need extra power out of a Vamo for a few days, but I don't want the hassle on a day to day basis.
I'm going to state a personal opinion at this point:
So all this talk about the DNA40 with 0.05 ohm coil, stacking batteries, ultra sub ohm vaping, 200 watt PVs. DAMN MAN!!!! how deep a grave do we want to dig?!?
So that 0.05 ohm coil works fine in the DNA40. How long will it be before folks thinks it's the norm in mods without temp control? How about if that DNA chip failed? (you can turn the temp control OFF ya know)
We have been harping on battery safety for years, now all of a sudden we have those same unsafe practices heralded as perfectly safe.
We have already exceeded the amount of vapor production that the human lung is capable of inhaling ... yet we want more.
When will this dog get tired of chasing it's tail?!?
It's amp draw that counts, not the resistance by itself. The DNA40 won't go over 40 watts however you try, even if you turn off the temperature control, and it's arguably the safest device out there at the moment (yes, safer than the Provari even).
Right up until it fails to function properly ........... or ............. until you FORGET to turn the temp control back on. When dry, that coil will get DAMN HOT at 40 watts!!!
Murphy's Law will always reign supreme!
Right now we seem to place to much reliance on "when used properly". The average person out there doesn't even know what that means!!
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If any regulated device fails the wrong way it's going to be bad. In this case if someone forgets to turn the temp control back on the watt control is still active and that is what keeps the battery safe.
It's way safer than any mech mod.
Having only read the specs once, I may not be recalling this correctly, but unless you're using Nickel 200, you aren't going to be in temp control mode. How likely is it that every user is going to be so conscientious that ALL their toppers have that wire? Or just decide that a flavor they want to vape at the moment, in a different topper with kanthal, is what they want on top at the moment? And then crank it up to enjoy, thinking the temp control will protect them?
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