Name this PV?? Does this PV exist?? Recommendation Please!!

[reachedmylimit]

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Yes. You want an abundance of everything. Trouble of any kind can be a distraction that creates the "doubt". You want to make sure you have nic, flavors, carts, batts, attys - whatever- galore! Then, once you are happy and have your system down pat, you start to experiment (try to improve) . You then have the luxury of time etc.

This is one of my main concerns!! Distraction can lead to failure!!

The one drawback to this is that you have to order in advance all the time. Not knowing what you like exactly may cause over-ordering of one thing and under-ordering of another.

So get enough of something decent in the beginning and fine-tune along the way. Who knows? With a bit of luck you may find the perfect thing right off the bat!



While everyone is different, for me, few statements are more true. To me that isn't TH. It isn't smooth or filling. It is like a combination of burning, ripping and I just ate a jalapeno pepper type thing.

EXACTLY!!! I do not want burn as in pepper, I want heat as in analog

Thank you for input!!
D.

 

[wv2win]

The problem with your logic(?) is that it is based on your personal experience. The thing is, the appropriate nicotine level isn't that simple, it isn't a lock step relationship, it depends on many factors. I smoked relatively mild (1mg/cigarette) More Red 120s. I vape 30-36mg juice all day long. It depends on the device in use, the actual vaping style of the individual, and (I suspect) body chemistry. Too many people start out too low on the nicotine scale and experience withdrawal as a result. It is much easier to reduce if one is able to mix. If that isn't a viable option, the next best thing is to initially buy a range of concentrations in smallish samples to determine what works for you.

The (?) fits. Good points.

 

[sherid]

I've been vaping primarily for 3 years (still smoke a couple of cigs a day) and I have tried nearly everything. IMO, the Bloog Maxx Fusion is the best thing going. You can get the deluxe kit and satisfy all but the Pass thru requirement. I see they are out of stock in the deluxe kit. Flavor, good battery life, great vapor, etc. BTW, everyone will say get an EGO. I have one, and I use it, but I love the Bloog way more.

 

[NCC]

@sherid: That's a powerful statement, considering your three year's experience. I have no Bloog experience, although I have seen the hype. I assumed (after checking the web site) that it was largely just that, hype. I mean, it is a mini. The chemistry is the same as all the others (excepting Darwin). More information please. I just don't see it (but, I'm all ears).


P.S. I still don't want a cigarette replica. I quit smoking cigarettes.

 

[zoiDman]

I've been vaping primarily for 3 years (still smoke a couple of cigs a day) and I have tried nearly everything. IMO, the Bloog Maxx Fusion is the best thing going. You can get the deluxe kit and satisfy all but the Pass thru requirement. I see they are out of stock in the deluxe kit. Flavor, good battery life, great vapor, etc. BTW, everyone will say get an EGO. I have one, and I use it, but I love the Bloog way more.

Wow. They seem kinda pricey for a Mini. What is it? It looks like a KR808D-1

 

[Rosa]

I've been vaping primarily for 3 years (still smoke a couple of cigs a day) and I have tried nearly everything. IMO, the Bloog Maxx Fusion is the best thing going. You can get the deluxe kit and satisfy all but the Pass thru requirement. I see they are out of stock in the deluxe kit. Flavor, good battery life, great vapor, etc. BTW, everyone will say get an EGO. I have one, and I use it, but I love the Bloog way more.

I'm curious too. For me, battery life is of utmost importance. Ideally, I don't want to change batteries but once a day. The website states:

MaxXFusion batteries hold more power per charge than any other compatible brand, as much as 20% more puffs per charge than other brands’ batteries of the same length.

20% more than a standard 510 for example (so, three hours vs. two and a half hours)? It doesn't seem like enough to me, what am I missing?

 

[SubGothius]

The KR808D-1 is already known for offering some of the best battery life available in a cig-style mini, and from what I've read, Bloog's MaxxFusion does appear to be a KR808D-1 variant, supposedly "re-engineered" somehow yet still fully compatible with all other KR8 gear, reckon you could read up or ask questions on Bloog's ECF subforum:
Bloog Electronic Cigarette

Turning back to some of reachedmylimit's latest inquiries:

The Delrin drip tips aren't chewy-soft like rubber or thin-wall flexible plastic; they're solid but a somewhat low-density plastic, trying to think of something familiar you could relate to... I guess more like the type of plastic Bic lighters and Sharpies are made of, rather than the hard, brittle, crystal-clear plastic of cheap lighters and those clear-barrel Bic Cristal pens. In fact, I think Delrin usually has a sorta frosted-matte texture because the material's not quite hard enough to hold a glossy finish without marring easily. At any rate, it'd make more of a dull clunk against your teeth rather than a sharp clack.

BTW, speaking of drip tips, I just noticed LiteCig includes a Delrin drip tip, along with a USB wall adapter, in their Leo starter kit, making that a pretty good deal IMO. I'd guess they just throw in a black drip tip from their regular stock, so you could probably request one of their translucent tips instead if you wish, since they're the same price [EDIT: whoops nevermind, I think they're a different size]. They also stock the Dekang Black Tea flavor (which I mentioned before) and a Green Tea flavor as well (which I haven't tried yet).

One thing about high-nic juices is that the nic alone imparts a sorta peppery sting, so if you find a high-nic juice too "spicy" it may well seem milder-tasting at a lower nic strength. I don't know of any CDC studies on vaping in particular, but the effects of nicotine and PG inhalation are pretty well studied and documented, so vaporized VG and flavorings are the more unknown factors, but really there's not much in juice/vapor that isn't also found in commercial cigarette tobacco/smoke anyway, whereas the reverse certainly cannot be said (quite the contrary), so it's still a significant net win in terms of ingredients and health effects.

Here's the ECF subforum dedicated to Health and Safety issues:
Health, Safety and E-Smoking
Note in particular the sticky topic covering common side effects of nicotine withdrawal and tobacco cessation which are unrelated to the use of e-cigs vs. those more directly related:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...hen-quitting-tobacco-changing-ecigarette.html

 

[VapNfool]

1) I would like something Not too bulky. (I am petite and female) And well made.

So...you're "well made" are ya lassie? Good to know. You've got my attention.

 

[VapNfool]

Now that you have my attention...here's my

If you start with a slim-Ecig and LIKE vaping...you'll find you will soon want more than that. So, you've heard it before and I'll say it again: Go big or go home.

Try a Provari with a VapeMate and any atty you like. It's all you'll ever need. 'Course...it's a teeny, weeny bit larger than your analogs ...but you'll never go back to another PV.

Well, ya might get a VaporKing for that "cigarette simulation" kinda thing. I'm telling ya though, vape on the these two PVs and the 808 MIGHT go out on the town with ya or be used for stealth vaping. The rest of the time....the ProVari will be your go-to PV.

Good luck though in any case. Happy vapes!

 

[tigerlily]

As you can see, people have a widely different reaction to various level of nicotine in e-Juice.

For a person who is about to go "Cold Turkey" from analogs, I would always suggest that they choose a Higher versus a Lower nicotine level to start. You can easily cut the Nicotine level down by diluting it with VG which is readily available at most drug stores.

But if you start with a low mg and you find yourself curled up in a ball chanting, "I will Not smoke a Cigarette. I will NOT smoke a cigarette. I WILL NOT SMOKE A CIGARETTE!", because your juice doesn't cut it, well, waiting a week for new juice to arrive just isn't an option.

A small reduction in taste, from a diluted juice, is a small price to pay if you can make it thru the first 2 weeks. Because I'm not going to kid you Sunshine, it can be rough.

A word of advice about this. When I first started vaping it was not my intention to quit smoking at all. I was simply hoping that I would be able to cut down on the number of cigarettes I smoked due to how expensive cigarettes are now. I figured if I was able to cut my smoking in half, it would be worth the price of the e-cig kit. I was shocked when I immediately went from 2 pad to 3-5 cigarettes a day. This soon became 3-5 cigarettes a week before I decided that cigarettes were just too boring to mess with any more.

My point is, if you find yourself curled up and chanting to yourself about how much you want a cigarette then give yourself a break. Don't make it any rougher on yourself than it has to be. It is perfectly ok to smoke a few cigarettes in the beginning. In fact, having one now and then may help you realize how much you don't really want one. It's that whole "grass is greener on the other side" thing.

 

[BlondieLocs]

Thank you for the info, we are looking for studies done at CDC and not done by BIG TOBACCO to verify and study effects. Heck we may even get a Grant to study effects!!

Thank you! Highly insightful post!
D,

The links I posted previously lead to studies done by the CDC, NASA, American Society for Pharmacology and Experimental Therapeutics, US EPA, FDA, among others.

Here they are again:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-propylene-glycol-toxicity-all-one-place.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...able-glycerin-vg-polyethylene-glycol-peg.html

 

[wv2win]

I'm curious too. For me, battery life is of utmost importance. Ideally, I don't want to change batteries but once a day. The website states:

MaxXFusion batteries hold more power per charge than any other compatible brand, as much as 20% more puffs per charge than other brands’ batteries of the same length.

20% more than a standard 510 for example (so, three hours vs. two and a half hours)? It doesn't seem like enough to me, what am I missing?

I don't think you are missing anything. You pretty much make a very good point. You can't change the principles of electric current or battery characteristics.

 

[Rosa]

I don't think you are missing anything. You pretty much make a very good point. You can't change the principles of electric current or battery characteristics.

Sounds like a good PV, but I suppose it depends on what your vaping priorities are. Some are in it for giant vapor, some want the best tasting one, some want convenience..... "perfect e-cig" doesn't exist, yet.

 

[zoiDman]

I don't think you are missing anything. You pretty much make a very good point. You can't change the principles of electric current or battery characteristics.

It would just seem that if a person want to go the KR808 route and wants more battery power that they buy 2 starter kits from a regular vendor. They would then have 4 batteries, plus more cartos and an extra charger, for the price on 1 Bloog starter kit.

 

[wv2win]

It would just seem that if a person want to go the KR808 route and wants more battery power that they buy 2 starter kits from a regular vendor. They would then have 4 batteries, plus more cartos and an extra charger, for the price on 1 Bloog starter kit.

If that's all they want that would be fine, although they would still be changing batteries often and will not get the throat hit that comes with a HV PV.

 

[zoiDman]

If that's all they want that would be fine, although they would still be changing batteries often and will not get the throat hit that comes with a HV PV.

I'm not endorsing that the OP get any type of Mini PV. Let alone one that seems to cost twice as much as a run-of-the-mill KR808. If you read post #37 you see what would be my recommendation.

I also do not think a High Voltage PV would be a good idea for a non-experienced first time user. I think the OP will have enough on their plate quitting analogs and learning all the ins and out of the Wonderful World of Vaping.

HV devices can introduce certain other problems that a novice user might not understand or know how to overcome. Especially when they are curled up in a ball going thru analog withdrawals.

 

[suddenly]

I have been eying the Leo myself. I am bored with everything I have now. It looks kind of sweet. I think I want a new toy.

 

[suddenly]

It would just seem that if a person want to go the KR808 route and wants more battery power that they buy 2 starter kits from a regular vendor. They would then have 4 batteries, plus more cartos and an extra charger, for the price on 1 Bloog starter kit.

I truly believe that if I started on a KR808 I would still be smoking. I got one later on and only used it a couple of times. The shine is still on it.

 

[wv2win]

I'm not endorsing that the OP get any type of Mini PV. Let alone one that seems to cost twice as much as a run-of-the-mill KR808. If you read post #37 you see what would be my recommendation.

I also do not think a High Voltage PV would be a good idea for a non-experienced first time user. I think the OP will have enough on their plate quitting analogs and learning all the ins and out of the Wonderful World of Vaping.

HV devices can introduce certain other problems that a novice user might not understand or know how to overcome. Especially when they are curled up in a ball going thru analog withdrawals.

I agree mostly with you on not recommending a true HV PV to a new user. I recommended the eGo. However, the newest HV PV on the market is actually easier than any PV I have vaped and I've vaped on quite a few. It is, excuse the expession, "dummy proof" because it will work great with any atty or carto.

 

[sherid]

What you say is true. I have a ton of KR808's, and I am not overly concerned about the battery life. However, the BLOOG outperforms the usual KR808's in flavor, throat hit, etc. The batteries also last several hours. I don't like mods at all, so other than an EGO, I'm not going that route. I am also a skeptic because I have wasted tons of money trying the latest and "best" new things over the past three years. I was a skeptic about the Bloog also, but then I decided to start small and bought a battery and cartomizers. The carts are superior also even though I have not found a pre-filled flavor I love. I don't do blanks, but I do refill with the condom method. The carts keep going and going. The KR808 chargers work on the Bloog but take much longer than the Bloog charger. Anyway, I got the battery and carts, loved it, and after a couple of weeks, ordered a kit. I'm going to order another soon. It truly is superior IMO. Remember, I have come full circle, realizing finally that I DO want something that resembles a cigarette.