Verrrrrrrrry! But it still looks interesting, I just recognize the smell of that kinda pomp and circumstance.
Natural Tobaccos - Part Deux
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Verrrrrrrrry! But it still looks interesting, I just recognize the smell of that kinda pomp and circumstance.
"Our company was built on the idea that our collective love of fine tobacco (specifically pipe tobacco) could be expressed through vaping but without having to burn tobacco leaves to enjoy it.We felt that, although there are good tobacco flavored juices out there,nobody was really representing the fine tobacco crowd and that maybe we could take that challenge on."
And there love of fine tobacco and their desire to represent the fine tobacco crowd is with uncased Virginia and Burley?
And there is vendors representing the quality tobacco crowd, I don't like the claim that there isn't. Nick from GeJ, Brian from RB, Clay from NETcom, Don from W2V, Wlad from Ahl.. they all have said in various ways that while they create a unique product there is also other great tobacco vendors out there.
That's maybe just nit-picking, but I start out pretty skeptical of new NET vendors until they prove otherwise. I was very skeptical of RB, but other than the price of the cigar NETs I'm turned around. St James and Poet are just rockin it for me this morning.
And maybe it's because I'm from the midwest, but I have an inherent distrust of guys named "Chas" and "Diesel" lol.
LOL -- I didn't even read that far. Got on the phone, followed the link, waited 5 minutes for the page to load, went through the age box checker, and finally decided I better just view the juices' description (good thing there are just 4, LOL).
Lol! Well I guess no one can help what their parents name them, but yeah, lol. I'd say though that on the pic they appear less pretentious than say the Five Pawns people. I imagine it'll be hella spendy though from the presentation.
I had given the link for Alembic https://www.facebook.com/pages/Alembic-Vapor-Labs/291186714279268?id=291186714279268&sk=info to a guy on the forum who was looking for cigar vapes-he got a couple and said that it was good but not as strong as he wanted.
I got Alembic's naturally extracted Matcha and it is good but also mild-a real authentic matcha flavor though. They also sent a couple of free samples (jasmine tea & cinnamon roll-both of those were more flavorful).
Is the St. James a heavy strong cigar flavor? How about the Guevera from El Toro? That one sounds so good.
Personally, I think that is the road to take for creating a premier tobacco vape. Who knows, maybe one day there will come a eliquid mixer the equal of a good tobacconist and deserving of the title of vaponist.
However, it's not enough to talk the talk, let's see if they can walk the walk.
The tobacco used for St. James Parish is Perique, which is commonly used as a condiment tobacco in pipe blends. American Spirit also uses it in one of their cigarette blends. Not sure if it's ever used in cigars. The flavor of the vape is more of a straight tobacco flavor, nothing cigar specific about it.
Guevera is interesting. I'm not sure if I'd classify it as a strong cigar flavor but maybe others might. That was a weird juice experience, because it just kind of bored me for the longest time, but with a third of the bottle left I suddenly loved it. Something clicked, and I was getting much more flavor after that happened. Never had such a drastic opinion change on a juice before.
I don't know much about various tobacco types, but I used to smoke American Spirits (and occasional Dunnhills) so I might like that then. I read that Guevera has to age for quite a while. Have you had the Guevera Reserve?
also maybe someone here can answer this guy http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...uice-stink-like-analogs-those-around-you.html
The Reserve and the regular Guevara are actually noticeably different. The better of the two is easily the Reserve. The oak barrel notes are exactly what the rather dull taste of Guevara needed. Part of the reason I never jumped on the "oak barrel adds nothing to eliquid" bandwagon is because I had the two Guevaras and can attest to the difference the oak barrel made. I guess the case could be made that it was all vapor and mirrors and maybe HoL added some other flavor to act like an "oak taste", but I doubt it.
Is Guevar Reserve worth the price? I am not sure if any eliquid is, but it was tasty. I'll never have any more unless someone sends me some.
Can't say how it smells to non-smokers (though my non-smoker husband doesn't seem to find any of my tobacco e-juice vapors offensive to smell) but I'm personally finding all the tobacco e-juices offensive; not so much the vapor, as the smell of the juice itself. GAHH!
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I don't know about y'all, but I (in a roundabout agreement with Jerms) still have a hard time taking soaked NETs as being able to be marketed as somehow "new" or beyond "special." I am NOT saying soaked NETs can't be good (obviously I am not saying that), but as it is, at-home brewers are realizing that it can be one of the easiest and cheapest DIY ventures in eliquid with results that are on-par with, if not rivaling vendor-based soaks. I'm sayin!
When will the next NET vendor come out that actually is doing something more than soaking in mason jars? It seems like there is so much room for growth, but at some point it all starts to be a bit redundant.
Am I ranting? LOL
but which juices are you talking about
didn't seem that long ago maybe a week you were going to try ecblends
and haven't had any NET yet
That was a rant? Lol.
I wasn't speaking about the extraction process as much as I was the creation of the liquid. Seems to me that adding your own casings would give more control and a better flavor than the pot luck of extracting an already cased tobacco.
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Yesterday (well late last night/early morning) when i shared that link for Trabuco NET eliquid, I had also messaged Trabuco asking for the price list etc., and I shared a link to the NET thread telling them that I had mentioned them to a bunch of NET enthusiasts.
The guy from Trabuco emailed back now with the prices and other info-he said he looked at the thread and wanted to respond but was unable to. I asked Mr. Mann is it's ok for me to copy/paste his response here, and he said "ok". So here it is:
"Ok the main ones I wanted to address is the price they retail between $25 - $27 for a 30ml bottle. We made sure that the cost stayed below the b&m standard of $1 a ml without cutting any corners in production.
Second point, I smoked a pipe for almost ten years and the tobaccos that I enjoyed the most involved Burley and Virginia. I developed these juices based on the palette that I knew best which was my own That is really the only reason that I use those two tobaccos exclusively. However, I am experimenting with Perique and Latakia right now to for a potential seasonal release at the end of this year but that's a ways off.
Third: when we said that we didn't feel like the fine tobacco crowd wasn't being represented we meant that in relation to the huge amount of b&m shops around California. Velvet Cloud was really the only NET that is readily available around here and their tobacco line seemed to be more or less a side note to their other stuff whereas we wanted to make the tobacco our focus. We didn't mean to come across as looking down or belittling the other guys that are making NET's across the US. In fact, I appreciate that being brought to our attention because that makes us sound really pretentious and we want to avoid that as much as possible.
Finally: I wouldn't trust a guy named Chas either. My full name is Charles but there are so many Charles' in my family (my dad included) my parents started calling me that an early age to at least try and give me some of my own identity. Also, Diesel's name is Matt but he is big so we just call him Diesel."
Yesterday (well late last night/early morning) when i shared that link for Trabuco NET eliquid, I had also messaged Trabuco asking for the price list etc., and I shared a link to the NET thread telling them that I had mentioned them to a bunch of NET enthusiasts.
The guy from Trabuco emailed back now with the prices and other info-he said he looked at the thread and wanted to respond but was unable to. I asked Mr. Mann is it's ok for me to copy/paste his response here, and he said "ok". So here it is:
"Ok the main ones I wanted to address is the price they retail between $25 - $27 for a 30ml bottle. We made sure that the cost stayed below the b&m standard of $1 a ml without cutting any corners in production.
Second point, I smoked a pipe for almost ten years and the tobaccos that I enjoyed the most involved Burley and Virginia. I developed these juices based on the palette that I knew best which was my own That is really the only reason that I use those two tobaccos exclusively. However, I am experimenting with Perique and Latakia right now to for a potential seasonal release at the end of this year but that's a ways off.
Third: when we said that we didn't feel like the fine tobacco crowd wasn't being represented we meant that in relation to the huge amount of b&m shops around California. Velvet Cloud was really the only NET that is readily available around here and their tobacco line seemed to be more or less a side note to their other stuff whereas we wanted to make the tobacco our focus. We didn't mean to come across as looking down or belittling the other guys that are making NET's across the US. In fact, I appreciate that being brought to our attention because that makes us sound really pretentious and we want to avoid that as much as possible.
Finally: I wouldn't trust a guy named Chas either. My full name is Charles but there are so many Charles' in my family (my dad included) my parents started calling me that an early age to at least try and give me some of my own identity. Also, Diesel's name is Matt but he is big so we just call him Diesel."
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I started a thread on how I was doing a steam extraction with my equipment that retired1 closed :Reason Item displayed is not a "tobacco" extraction device. Although my equipment can be used for a number of other uses I don't agree with his reason. But so be it. I have done it and it's probably the cleanest end product. It's possible some vendors are doing the same process
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