Natural Tobaccos - Part Deux

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rdsok

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The box shown... is like the one KSD uses but I also know that it has been faked also... so that is no real indication of brand. This is one reason I don't buy this type of product from fasttech

About the 5a limit... that is what it claims and perhaps it does have an upgraded circuit board... I won't guess either way.

About the performance drop... that is pretty standard really. I've seen it also on several APV's and I suspect it's a lot more of an indication of the ability of battery to handle a load as it's power drops down as it is of the circuit trying to boost it. Basically, the circuit can not make up for what the battery can't provide.

I usually have an extra battery that I keep charged and once the power drops to around 3.8-3.9v I change them out if possible. It's easier on the battery that way, so they will live longer. Recently, I've been running two APV's... so now I don't have an extra already charged battery.

I've got two 35a Efest 18650's on the way in... ( that's 35a burst and 20a continuous so I've read ) these shouldn't "sag" as much as my current batteries do when reaching lower voltages.
 

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I finally got some time to mix up a batch of Johni's extract of Missouri Meerschaum County Gentleman. It is a blend on fire cured Kentucky. red Virginia's and Perique.
I'm a big fan of the red Virginia's [mixed with Danish Burley]as well as Perique. In my opinion, the Perique can be distinguished here over the reds, but I am really enjoying the vape on and off today.
Just a heads up on a great extract to trade for. :thumb:
 

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About the performance drop... that is pretty standard really. I've seen it also on several APV's and I suspect it's a lot more of an indication of the ability of battery to handle a load as it's power drops down as it is of the circuit trying to boost it. Basically, the circuit can not make up for what the battery can't provide.

I usually have an extra battery that I keep charged and once the power drops to around 3.8-3.9v I change them out if possible. It's easier on the battery that way, so they will live longer. Recently, I've been running two APV's... so now I don't have an extra already charged battery.

I've got two 35a Efest 18650's on the way in... ( that's 35a burst and 20a continuous so I've read ) these shouldn't "sag" as much as my current batteries do when reaching lower voltages.

I got ya, I thought my VAMO was just weird or something; but it makes sense- if you run it in voltage mode, you'll see the same thing happen. I guess I could compare it to a Vision Spinner as it starts to lose charge; crank it up to 4.8 and it barely puts out any power.

Aren't the VTC5's rated to 30A burst? I think they may be. I just would be happy to see a battery hit 3.5 or 3.3 without noticing that something is up with the output.

Next on the list will be an Xtar charger. Amazon has a decent deal on the 2-bays.

In regards to the original "Demonfire" batteries... I need to cut the label off and see what they really are.

They didn't really seem too much different than these VTC5's, to be completely honest.

....However, there's that whole fire in the name. I'm looking to avoid starting one.

Time to put the depleted VTC5 on the charger.

Seems like these take a really long time to charge compared to how long it took for the ....erm... Demonfires.

EDIT: I decided to do something off-the-wall (and possibly stupid) and took some silicone sealant to the busted PMMA top cap of the KFL clone. It'll cure in 24 hours or so, and if it actually bonds (I took a wet q-tip with the cotton stripped off and leveled out the silicone) I'll be happy. Stuff's rated for aquarium use and plumbing (which is what I picked it up for), so it ought to work for this. I'm giving it the full 24 hours because I don't want to breathe in any funny vapors from the curing process.

Here goes nothing.
 
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VTC5 is rated at 30 continuous, 60 burst..

That's what I've read also... but I thought I'd read burst was 40a but it could have been another battery I'm mixing up with this one.


General info about lithium based batteries... this info is on the standard voltages but similar enough to be used for most types.

3.7v is referred to as the nominal voltage. This is also the voltage you will want to store them at when not using them as they are their most stable at this voltage.

To get the most life out of your batteries... don't charge them over 4.1v ( 4.2v is max but getting to this charge level is hard on them ). Don't discharge them any lower than 3.4v ( there is some disagreement with some people on this value ) and if you want to be real easy on them... then no lower than 3.6v. In short, taking your battery to their maximum or minimum can reduce their lifespan as much as 60% depending on a lot of factors. Constantly using a battery at it's max continuous or burst amperages also shortens their lifespan.

FWI .... The above also applies to LiPo batteries ... So if your into RC cars, trucks, planes etc... following those as guidelines can also increase the life of those batteries as well.
 

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So I'm vaping up my older juices lately. Often the last couple ml of big bottles start tasting a little lackluster; probably because the juice is getting up on age and I'm often lazy when it comes to properly shaking juice before using. Well, grabbed for Ahl's Sahara Blend to finish it off and BAM, smacked by amazeball flavor. This juice starts out great and continues to age lovely in old age. Probably not my last bottle of SB; unique, delicious, and one of the best performing juices.

Also finishing up the last of my Louisiana Red nectar that Bill extracted. Now I'll spend more proper time with the other VA/Per blend Bill sent, Anniversary Kake. Also delicious, but has been neglected in favor of LR.
 

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So, here's the NETCom sale that I just mentioned a second ago: :rickroll:

Quote Originally Posted by NETCom
***ANNOUNCEMENT***

Tonight (9/1/2014) around Midnight CST we will begin a

"Back to the grind" Post-Labor Day SALE!!!

During our sale, which ends at 11:59 PST on Friday, September 5th, you will receive:

20% OFF your ENTIRE ORDER!!*

*With the exception of our new products being launched tonight:

Those are 30% OFF!!


Check back tonight/tomorrow/this-week-before-Friday to see what NEW PRODUCTS we have ready to launch for our customers!

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**We are aware that there is an issue with processing credit cards on the website at this time. We apologize for the inconvenience, however alternate transaction methods are being processed during this down-time.

We do anticipate this issue being resolved very quickly this week after the Labor Day weekend, but If you wish to place your order to get into the queue without delay, please email Clay or Chelsae at redacted to avoid spambots if you would like to explore other payment options!

Site is still not up. Does anyone who speaks to him know if he plans to extend this sale beyond Friday ? That is assuming the site will be up by Friday.
 

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regal55 said:
One of my first diy nets was the mango vanilla. It left me wishing they had used Cavendish as the base, it wasn't a hit and me being a novice may be part of that but I was on a search for fruit flavored tobacco's and now I'm just into cav's and branching out to Turkish/english

You know, it wouldn't be a stretch to say you could use a golden Cav to 'enhance' the blend.

I've found a lot of these to be on the smoother, almost vanilla-ish side. I love the heck out of them.

If you're enjoying Cavs, you may as well give blending the two a shot to see if it clicks with you.

(First that comes to mind is Captain Black Gold, but you would probably enjoy the Drew Estates Toasted Black Cavendish from what you've mentioned about your preferences)


Site is still not up. Does anyone who speaks to him know if he plans to extend this sale beyond Friday ? That is assuming the site will be up by Friday.

No knowledge as of yet; I still think if he runs it even for a day or two (or through the weekend?) it'll be worth it.

I'm just too tempted to order some of what I've heard is being released, honestly.

Even I don't know what all is coming out or TBD. From Juicy's post, I have a decent idea, though.

I usually get sidetracked discussing different types of tobacco and how they vape, though.

I assume that he's trying to price some things and get all the new stuff configured properly.

That being said, I know a lot of folks' suggestions and concerns are reaching him, though.

He may be addressing the CC processing whosa-whatsits or whatever is going on with that.

I just have this feeling, like the website is going to be up before I am later on today.

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...You know, maybe I should take this opportunity to place an order for another PMMA Kayfun Lite clone from FT.

I'll just have to be a bit more cautious about drip tips that I have to kinda-sorta force in there: by more cautious, I mean avoid entirely.

Eventually, I'll pick up a set of carbide bits and end up with an army of KFL clones with various airflow sizes.

I feel as if my RBA searching days will come to an end once I get ahold of a Magma.

...come to think of it, I better get some 30AWG kanthal... I'm getting too focused on e-liquid again.:drool:

Well, then again, that's why I mainly post on this thread. :lol:

@ Mazinny: I think I've actually narrowed down the leaking issue. It may have well been the O-ring. It was split on one side, and since the KF's operate on a sealed system, it's likely that was causing the excessive leaking.

(I replaced the stock with a Danco #47 O-ring; 11/32" O.D. x 7/32" I.D. x 1/16")

...Not that a bigger coil won't help things along a bit. :D

That'll be a great use for some twisted 32AWG. I just have to torch the heck out of it and give the torch a few breaks when cooking a good length of the stuff to burn the annealing off. Then again, dry burning accomplishes the same thing. Now I'm thinking I need to get tweezers from FT specifically to pinch coils. :facepalm:

I need to run out of excuses to spend money! :lol:
 
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You know, it wouldn't be a stretch to say you could use a golden Cav to 'enhance' the blend.

I've found a lot of these to be on the smoother, almost vanilla-ish side. I love the heck out of them.

If you're enjoying Cavs, you may as well give blending the two a shot to see if it clicks with you.

(First that comes to mind is Captain Black Gold, but you would probably enjoy the Drew Estates Toasted Black Cavendish from what you've mentioned about your preferences)




No knowledge as of yet; I still think if he runs it even for a day or two (or through the weekend?) it'll be worth it.

I'm just too tempted to order some of what I've heard is being released, honestly.

Even I don't know what all is coming out or TBD. From Juicy's post, I have a decent idea, though.

I usually get sidetracked discussing different types of tobacco and how they vape, though.

I assume that he's trying to price some things and get all the new stuff configured properly.

That being said, I know a lot of folks' suggestions and concerns are reaching him, though.

He may be addressing the CC processing whosa-whatsits or whatever is going on with that.

I just have this feeling, like the website is going to be up before I am later on today.

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EDIT:

...You know, maybe I should take this opportunity to place an order for another PMMA Kayfun Lite clone from FT.

I'll just have to be a bit more cautious about drip tips that I have to kinda-sorta force in there: by more cautious, I mean avoid entirely.

Eventually, I'll pick up a set of carbide bits and end up with an army of KFL clones with various airflow sizes.

I feel as if my RBA searching days will come to an end once I get ahold of a Magma.

...come to think of it, I better get some 30AWG kanthal... I'm getting too focused on e-liquid again.:drool:

Well, then again, that's why I mainly post on this thread. :lol:

@ Mazinny: I think I've actually narrowed down the leaking issue. It may have well been the O-ring. It was split on one side, and since the KF's operate on a sealed system, it's likely that was causing the excessive leaking.

(I replaced the stock with a Danco #47 O-ring; 11/32" O.D. x 7/32" I.D. x 1/16")

...Not that a bigger coil won't help things along a bit. :D

That'll be a great use for some twisted 32AWG. I just have to torch the heck out of it and give the torch a few breaks when cooking a good length of the stuff to burn the annealing off. Then again, dry burning accomplishes the same thing. Now I'm thinking I need to get tweezers from FT specifically to pinch coils. :facepalm:

I need to run out of excuses to spend money! :lol:

You don't need to order another kafun just for the pmma part. Fasttech sells the part too.

I never thought your leaking issues were due to the size of your coil. I use larger diameter, non contact coils to minimize the effect of the gunking on vape quality, with some NET's. The picture i posted was just an example of a build. I have used micro coils with no leaking as well.
 

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maybe I should take this opportunity to place an order for another PMMA Kayfun Lite clone from FT. I'll just have to be a bit more cautious about drip tips that I have to kinda-sorta force in there: by more cautious, I mean avoid entirely. Eventually, I'll pick up a set of carbide bits and end up with an army of KFL clones with various airflow sizes.

I own three of those PMMA Kayfun Lite clones. I love the capacity, wonderful taste, and perfect draw they provide, as well as the light weight and how they look, but I hate that all three of them leak like sieves. The vacuum is really undependable no matter how they're filled. Actually, they don't always leak (except for a initial period after they're filled), but when they do leak beyond that, they won't stop, so there's no alternative except to empty them out, break them down completely, rinse the various parts, and start over. I retired all three PMMA KFL Lites awhile ago, because I got sick of cleaning up leaking juice, then brought them back to try again (I missed their great flavor), and now have retired one of the three a second time for the same reason.
 

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Going on a month with one of my first extractions, heat assited Capt Black Dark. You really con't go wrong with this stuff. Its perfect in a dripper (but lower you nic content) and great in a KFL. I highly recommend it for a first time extract if you live Cavendish, this stuff is so authentic and impossible to screw up. Honestly I haven't found a commercial cav that's as good and I am sure many use it. Its contradictory to what one might expect the fruits and sweet ejuice are much harder to master DIY than NETS. In fact I don't even try anything but nets the sweet stuff and blend are too difficult and even though there is a huge markup they reallly earn I.

If you want to get into DIY ejuice nets are the best intro.t
 

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It has been a relatively slow few vape days. Mostly, they've been bad days. Juice spills, wick problems, and the list goes on like the winding road. I have reached the conclusion that dual coil tanks are better than single for "flavor saturation." I have also come to the conclusion that Kanger Esmart coils/tanks were designed to frustrate any attempt to rewick them. If the length isn't perfect the wick catches in the threads and all you get is dry burning cotton. If it is too short you will get a flooded mess. The difference is small and the base makes it almost impossible to get the scissors close enough to get things right.

On the upside, 1.3ml of Drew Estate 7th avenue Blonde and 1ml of Grand Central = :vapor: :D
 

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The first time I tried NETcom's Uncle BJ's BlackBerry Burley, I really liked the blackberry however immediately discovered that fired-cured burley was not meant for me. On one of my subsequent orders, I asked Clay if it was possible to substitute air-cured burley for fire-cured. In true Clay fashion, he sent me Air-Cured BlackBerry Burley. For all you burley fans the burley is definitely there however without the heavy "bite" so if you are like me and do not care for the bite of fire-cured burley and like burley give the air-cured version a try (I noticed Clay has now added this to his line of hybrids).
 

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NET.com has finally come back online... Clay's added a ton of taste looking new NET's and hybrids

OMG he has added so many that sound wonderful to me - where do I begin. On my last order I had asked Clay if he could make me a sample of a Va/Per blend. Although I have not tried it yet, I have a good feeling I am going to like it - now there are three different versions to choose from.
 

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OMG he has added so many that sound wonderful to me - where do I begin. On my last order I had asked Clay if he could make me a sample of a Va/Per blend. Although I have not tried it yet, I have a good feeling I am going to like it - now there are three different versions to choose from.
Right?! That's about one of the best selections of new NETs I've seen, a bunch of stuff right in line with my interests these days. VA/Per blends, oh yes. Awesome sounding dessert tobacco with the caramel brownie. French cigs which I don't know much about but look potentially great. And I haven't been big on fruit-baccos but the orange blossom and vanilla raspberry have my attention. Very cool.
 
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