Natural Tobaccos - Part Deux

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I hadn’t vaped any NETs for about five years. Got tired of all the dry burning and re wicking. I wanted to vape some again before everything gets taken off the market so I got some Patriot, Perique, Latakia and Wild Turkey from GEJ.

I believe it’s all old juice, no telling how old. IIRC, Patriot was a yellow / gold color. What I got a couple weeks ago was dark brown. None of it tasted as good as I remember it back then. And it all seems to gunk coils even faster than before.

It sure was exciting back then to try those juices for the first time. They tasted so good and were so satisfying. What I got is vapeable but it sure ain’t what it used to be.
 

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Hey all, anyone still around?

For the last few years I’ve struggled to emulate the wonderful experiences of vaping NETs I had around 2011-2013. I believe this could be a combination factors. Perhaps my palette has changed over the years but also I believe some of the NET vendors who used to make excellent products may have become more complacent in their quality control and inventory management.

However, I am still pursuing good quality NETs. Just recently I put in an order with Black Note for some of their original line and the new V line. I believe that as someone who no longer is chasing dirty and gunky NeTs that emulate a cigarette, a more nuanced and cleaner juice could be what I need to enjoy the complex flavours of tobacco.

I am also considering an order with Juice Cabin in the UK. It appears they are now considered to be the best NET vendors in the UK and some believe they are on par or better than Black Note. I guess subjectivity comes into it and also suitability. I suspect Juice Cabin might be more for a purist of tobacco who enjoys robust NETs and Black Note for either a newer vaper or a seasoned vaper who doesn’t want a juice gunking up their devices or prefers a more mellow NET.

I would love to hear from anyone who has tried Black Note or Juice Cabin and get your opinions.

Generally, it would be great to hear from anyone still around who can share their recent experiences with NeTs.
 
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Not much to report from here other than I'm still vaping NETs. I'm really happy that people here made me aware of Stixx Mixx, as I am enjoying everything I get from Ty and saving money too. I had been buying from another source making good juice (who tended to add sweetener to his nets unless you asked him not to) but he's gotten out of the NET business because of the FDA. Both of them provide excellent customer service and are the exact opposite of my previous favorite that I quit doing business with.

I keep meaning to splurge and try Black Note, but never got around to it. Maybe that would be something to put a tiny bit of shine on an otherwise awful year.

And as I think I've mentioned before, I'm pretty sure I don't have a well developed palate. My favorite flavors are the most strong ones, like Latakia. I may be wrong, but I think it's entirely possible that I might totally miss the nuances that others talk about.
 

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Not much to report from here other than I'm still vaping NETs. I'm really happy that people here made me aware of Stixx Mixx, as I am enjoying everything I get from Ty and saving money too. I had been buying from another source making good juice (who tended to add sweetener to his nets unless you asked him not to) but he's gotten out of the NET business because of the FDA. Both of them provide excellent customer service and are the exact opposite of my previous favorite that I quit doing business with.

I keep meaning to splurge and try Black Note, but never got around to it. Maybe that would be something to put a tiny bit of shine on an otherwise awful year.

And as I think I've mentioned before, I'm pretty sure I don't have a well developed palate. My favorite flavors are the most strong ones, like Latakia. I may be wrong, but I think it's entirely possible that I might totally miss the nuances that others talk about.
Do they have a phone number? Can't find one on their website.
 

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Do they have a phone number? Can't find one on their website.

I don't honestly know, and I didn't keep the business cards he puts in every shipment. I've contacted him both through email and through Facebook. I got replies for both pretty quickly, within a few hours as I remember.
 

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Well I either have a super developed palate and The NETs I’ve been using are overpowering and pungent to me or the juices I am vaping have already gone off.

I am really looking forward to the Blacknote order. The last time I tried Black Note was 5 years ago when I was still occasionally have a cigarette (despite taking up vaping 6 years earlier). At the time Black Note seemed too subtle to me. That was at a time when NET.com, Want2Vape and others were spot on to my palate in terms of boldness of flavour.

With my taste buds having improved significantly I may find Black Note just right now.
 
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Well I either have a super developed palate and The NETs I’ve been using are overpowering and pungent to me or the juices I am vaping have already gone off.

I am really looking forward to the Blacknote order. The last time I tried Black Note was 5 years ago when I was still occasionally have a cigarette (despite taking up vaping 6 years earlier). At the time Black Note seemed too subtle to me. That was at a time when NET.com, Want2Vape and others were spot on to my palate in terms of boldness of flavour.

With my taste buds having improved significantly I may find Black Note just right now.

Hey, Anthony.. I don't know if you have tried DIY yet, but a good NET vendor for DIY purposes is Stixx Mixx. I have tried about 7 of their flavors and they do NETs quite well. I also don't know if you know or not but Ahlusion is now making their flavor concentrates available to the public. I've only tried their Caramel Wild Wood concentrate, and just like the original did for me, it's great after a 4 week steep.
 

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So, I think the Stixx Mixx extracts are excellent.
I'm also a big fan of Blacknote. And, yes, they're more subtle and cleaner.
I, stupidly since I keep fooling around with juices, let some old NETs sit around for more than a year plus and they didn't age well. They were not straight tobacco, but they lost most of the non-tobacco flavor.
 
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8 years down the road and I'm still enjoying my home made NETs, it's all I vape. Hybrid NET is my preference with VCT (Vanilla, Caramel, Tobacco) my favorite. I go through 100 ml a week so it's a good thing I learned how to make my own. Probably wouldn't have but the FDA (and to a lessor degree state legislatures) provided ample "inspiration" to learn DIY.

The only non-NET retail juice I ever liked was Ahlusion's "Caramel Wild Wood" (CWW). Unfortunately, thanks to federal and state governments, Ahlusion closed its doors a few months ago. Nice to know I could get CWW flavor concentrate from a shop called the fox trove, thanks @Skeebo . Haven't had any CWW in years, might be time to mix some up! CWW tasted like Cracker Jacks to me, a flavor I never could accurately replicate DIY. I remember it blended with certain NET (VaPER's I think) quite well making for a tasty hybrid.
 

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8 years down the road and I'm still enjoying my home made NETs, it's all I vape. Hybrid NET is my preference with VCT (Vanilla, Caramel, Tobacco) my favorite. I go through 100 ml a week so it's a good thing I learned how to make my own. Probably wouldn't have but the FDA (and to a lessor degree state legislatures) provided ample "inspiration" to learn DIY.

The only non-NET retail juice I ever liked was Ahlusion's "Caramel Wild Wood" (CWW). Unfortunately, thanks to federal and state governments, Ahlusion closed its doors a few months ago. Nice to know I could get CWW flavor concentrate from a shop called the fox trove, thanks @Skeebo . Haven't had any CWW in years, might be time to mix some up! CWW tasted like Cracker Jacks to me, a flavor I never could accurately replicate DIY. I remember it blended with certain NET (VaPER's I think) quite well making for a tasty hybrid.
Pick up some Salted Caramel by Flavor West. It gives you that Cracker Jack flavor. A little goes a long way.

Salted Caramel-FW
 

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Hey, Anthony.. I don't know if you have tried DIY yet, but a good NET vendor for DIY purposes is Stixx Mixx. I have tried about 7 of their flavors and they do NETs quite well. I also don't know if you know or not but Ahlusion is now making their flavor concentrates available to the public. I've only tried their Caramel Wild Wood concentrate, and just like the original did for me, it's great after a 4 week steep.

hey Skeebo, great to hear from you and glad you are still around.

My tastes seem to have changed significantly or the composition and ingredients have changed over the years. I purchased from ahlusion last year and was very excited about the order. Like other orders that were based on a reunion with my favorites vendors of earlier years, I couldn’t wait to have juices from ahlusion.

My experiences with ahlusion were underwhelming. I got none of the euphoria and bliss from vaping their juices like I did in the earlier part of the decade. The change of recipe from NET to synthetic in the aromatics line has removed all the magic from those juices. Caramel Wild Wood and others are still good but not the amazing vaping experiences I remember.

I don’t know if ahlusion ever used diacetyl or other compounds which frequented recipes before the crackdown happened but I think the removal of diacetyl has resulted in some juices not matching up to their former glory. Five pawns is a good case in point.
 

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So, I think the Stixx Mixx extracts are excellent.
I'm also a big fan of Blacknote. And, yes, they're more subtle and cleaner.
I, stupidly since I keep fooling around with juices, let some old NETs sit around for more than a year plus and they didn't age well. They were not straight tobacco, but they lost most of the non-tobacco flavor.


I got about 30 10ml samplers in plastic bottles from bestcigliquid about 6 months ago and they were fairly decent NETs when I got them. I neglected them for a few minutes and every bottle of juice is either badly off or starting to go off and that’s after sitting in a dark draw during our colder months.
 

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8 years down the road and I'm still enjoying my home made NETs, it's all I vape. Hybrid NET is my preference with VCT (Vanilla, Caramel, Tobacco) my favorite. I go through 100 ml a week so it's a good thing I learned how to make my own. Probably wouldn't have but the FDA (and to a lessor degree state legislatures) provided ample "inspiration" to learn DIY.

The only non-NET retail juice I ever liked was Ahlusion's "Caramel Wild Wood" (CWW). Unfortunately, thanks to federal and state governments, Ahlusion closed its doors a few months ago. Nice to know I could get CWW flavor concentrate from a shop called the fox trove, thanks @Skeebo . Haven't had any CWW in years, might be time to mix some up! CWW tasted like Cracker Jacks to me, a flavor I never could accurately replicate DIY. I remember it blended with certain NET (VaPER's I think) quite well making for a tasty hybrid.


Wow sad days indeed! I’m glad I had one last opportunity to order from ahlusion earlier this year. I still have plenty of their juice. I am not loving them but knowing that ahlusion has closed down I will savour what I have that little bit more and think fondly of one of the best e-juice companies for a long time.
 
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8 years down the road and I'm still enjoying my home made NETs, it's all I vape. Hybrid NET is my preference with VCT (Vanilla, Caramel, Tobacco) my favorite. I go through 100 ml a week so it's a good thing I learned how to make my own. Probably wouldn't have but the FDA (and to a lessor degree state legislatures) provided ample "inspiration" to learn DIY.

The only non-NET retail juice I ever liked was Ahlusion's "Caramel Wild Wood" (CWW). Unfortunately, thanks to federal and state governments, Ahlusion closed its doors a few months ago. Nice to know I could get CWW flavor concentrate from a shop called the fox trove, thanks @Skeebo . Haven't had any CWW in years, might be time to mix some up! CWW tasted like Cracker Jacks to me, a flavor I never could accurately replicate DIY. I remember it blended with certain NET (VaPER's I think) quite well making for a tasty hybrid.
that VCT is my favorite type of tobacco. What's your recipe?
 
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