Natural Tobaccos - Part Deux

[Dusty_D]

personal extraction or commercial?

MyVapeJuice

 

[AnthonyB]

I had created another post about this but it was suggested to also post it here.
Of the NETs listed and reviewed here (over 1100 hundred pages and this is part Deux) I know flavor is subject individually but I am trying to find one close to a cigarette with low or no odor. Is there such a juice?

We just discussed it in the posts that precede your post.

Try big spirit, NS Brown and NS Dark from Naturally Extracted tobacco.com and Top Leaf and Gold Leaf from Ethervapes.


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[Influence]

If you try Goodejuice I'll also strongly recommend you Patriot and Wild Turkey. Just fantastic stuff

 

[Vicman]

Hey Vicman, I could have sworn you said Top Leaf but it appears I was wrong. I agree entirely about gold leaf from EV. One of my current favorites. However, given I had already talked about Top Leaf in response to what I thought was the liquid you mentioned, I will just leave the following post unedited.

I love Top Leaf by Ethervapes. What I really love about it is how that vanilla infusion is ever so subtle, just enough to round off the burley and Virginia to give them a crisp smooth overall flavor.

Without knowing any better, it appears Vash knew what he set out to do with Top Leaf. It seems to me he was trying to reproduce an analog cigarette experience which is smooth and pleasing. I am finding the vanilla has very little presence at all in my particular bottle. It is more an undertone and doesn't interfere with the tobacco taking centre stage.

If there were Oscars for e-juices then surely the vanilla in Top Leaf would win best supporting actress.


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Howdy Anthony. I do like Top Leaf but not as my go to when in a cigarette mood. To me, the vanilla in it makes it feel more like a pipe than cigarette. Funny how the same NET plays differently for different people. Everyone says "taste is subjective". In this case it's more of "what it plays like is subjective" lol.

On the other hand, Gold Leaf is one I have been using as my go to when in a cigarette mood. The way the sweetness of the Virginia's play with the dryness of the Burley makes it seem like a cigarette to me. I just dripped my last drop over the weekend (had to finagle the bottle to get it, lol) and will be ordering more soon.

 

[Vicman]

I had created another post about this but it was suggested to also post it here.
Of the NETs listed and reviewed here (over 1100 hundred pages and this is part Deux) I know flavor is subject individually but I am trying to find one close to a cigarette with low or no odor. Is there such a juice?

To add to the other suggestions, I would also recommend Hump Back from Quick Nic Juice. I found that one to be a good Turkish style cigarette NET.

 

[AnthonyB]

Howdy Anthony. I do like Top Leaf but not as my go to when in a cigarette mood. To me, the vanilla in it makes it feel more like a pipe than cigarette. Funny how the same NET plays differently for different people. Everyone says "taste is subjective". In this case it's more of "what it plays like is subjective" lol.

On the other hand, Gold Leaf is one I have been using as my go to when in a cigarette mood. The way the sweetness of the Virginia's play with the dryness of the Burley makes it seem like a cigarette to me. I just dripped my last drop over the weekend (had to finagle the bottle to get it, lol) and will be ordering more soon.

I agree wholeheartedly. Gold Leaf from Ethervapes is one of my current favorite NETs. Great tobacco presence for a 2.5 micron filtered juice.

The natural sweetness of the Virginias is divine.


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[NotSoMini]

Howdy Anthony. I do like Top Leaf but not as my go to when in a cigarette mood. To me, the vanilla in it makes it feel more like a pipe than cigarette. Funny how the same NET plays differently for different people. Everyone says "taste is subjective". In this case it's more of "what it plays like is subjective" lol.

On the other hand, Gold Leaf is one I have been using as my go to when in a cigarette mood. The way the sweetness of the Virginia's play with the dryness of the Burley makes it seem like a cigarette to me. I just dripped my last drop over the weekend (had to finagle the bottle to get it, lol) and will be ordering more soon.

It has probably been a good 8 months or so since I had EV Gold Leaf and Top Leaf. I never did taste the vanilla in Top Leaf and this was not a bad thing for me. I can understand though what you are saying that tasting vanilla in a cigarette vape may lean more toward a pipe flavor. My preference at that time was Gold Leaf. Since then I tried a number of NETcom’s cigarette style eliquids and settled on Organic Spirit as my first choice and Big Spirit as my second choice although sometimes I alternate ordering. I do have a bottle of Speaking Spirit (BS with Perique) steeping and need to try it one of these days.

 

[Jerms]

I am trying to find one close to a cigarette with low or no odor. Is there such a juice?

Yep, lots of them, and little to no odor with NETs compared to synthetic tobacco flavors.

NETcom has the biggest selection of extracted ciggy tobacco. I've only had their Big Spirit, made from American Spirit rolling tobacco, and it's fantastic.

Goodejuice has a Marb Light copy called Wrangler Light. It's not Marb tobacco (thank God) but it uses a tobacco that has a light cocoa flavor which Marb Lights have. They have a couple more analog type NETs that I've yet to try.

QuickNicJuice has a few. I've had Hump Back which is a very good Turkish for a Camel cig vibe, and Analog Red which is solid.

 

[Jerms]

I have managed to vape my 15 ml bottles of Yerba Mate Tea and SweeTea so it is safe to say I liked them both. The mix date was 02/17/15 so I have not had them long enough to meet my minimum of a one month steep. With a longer steep I don’t know how much the taste will change. Both of these are ADVs for me. Good for NET.com for introducing TeaBaccos.

Yerba Mate Tea taste just like the tea so I recognized it immediately even though I have not had the tea form for several years. If you have had Mate tea you know that it has a very distinctive taste. Some may say it is slightly earthy while others say it is somewhat bitter (similar to what people may say about beer, coffee, etc.). If there was any bitterness in the Yerba Mate extract, this has been tempered nicely with the Toasted White Burley and Oriental tobaccos as I did not notice it.

SweeTea taste just McDonald's Southern style sweet tea however it is not nearly as sweet as McD and of course sans the tobacco. First time for me vaping Natural Cavendish and I really, really like it. The Natural Cav's soft character adds the Swee without being sugary sweet and it worked well with the Black Pekoe Tea. The Black Pekoe taste just like a brewed cup of tea so if you want a warm tea turn up the watts or turn it down for a cool version of SweeTea. McD's move over — your Northern competitor is here!

Damn, sounds so good. Tea-bacco.. I'd mentioned wanting tea tobacco hybrids a long time ago, glad to see it looks like Clay executed them well.

 

[Vicman]

It has probably been a good 8 months or so since I had EV Gold Leaf and Top Leaf. I never did taste the vanilla in Top Leaf and this was not a bad thing for me. I can understand though what you are saying that tasting vanilla in a cigarette vape may lean more toward a pipe flavor. My preference at that time was Gold Leaf. Since then I tried a number of NETcom’s cigarette style eliquids and settled on Organic Spirit as my first choice and Big Spirit as my second choice although sometimes I alternate ordering. I do have a bottle of Speaking Spirit (BS with Perique) steeping and need to try it one of these days.

I never tried any of the other cigarette offerings from NET.com. Just the BS and NS Dark. I like them and all but for me, been liking cigar vapes much more than any others lately. I just received a couple of the new cigar mixtures from NET.com. 7th Cut and the Ruins (along with another bottle of Starry Night, awesome woodsy cigar with a slight sweetness from the fruit). Out of the mail they kind of have deeper tones to them tobacco wise; almost seem to have a sort of Burley kick to them. Can't wait for them to develop a little more to see just how much I end up liking them.

 

[Jerms]

Oh boy! New NET from GeJ!

Check out our latest NET offering! We blended an authentic Virginia strain with turtlefoot tobacco, a popular dark and rich tobacco that is typically used for blending with other pipe tobaccos. The out come is magical, playing like a pipe or a cigarette. The Virginia used (a dark fired tobacco) is an old school strain that was very common in colonial America, and still used today in many pipe blends. Known as Orinico, it offers a subtle sweetness with a great smokey flavor. Try some Lizard Tail[/url] today!<br/>

 

[Jerms]

Good timing since we were just talking ciggy NETs, Nick posted this about Lizard Tail..

Howdy there Jerms Yeah it's light enough for an all day vape, but has a real nice natural sweetness and smokiness. To me its a perfect alternative to an actual ciggy, but many of our storefront customers who smoked pipes really dig it. A nice addition to our proud lineup of baccys. <br/>

 

[Vicman]

Good timing since we were just talking ciggy NETs, Nick posted this about Lizard Tail..

Howdy there Jerms Yeah it's light enough for an all day vape, but has a real nice natural sweetness and smokiness. To me its a perfect alternative to an actual ciggy, but many of our storefront customers who smoked pipes really dig it. A nice addition to our proud lineup of baccys. <br/>

I know I've been diggin cigar NETs lately but GeJ has some real smooth tobaccos. Sooo, hope I get a job in that area soon. If not, will just have bite the bullet and order some cause it sounds like something I want to try. Plus, been needing some more Patriot and Arcadian Gold.

 

[Frankenmizer]

Anyone else curious about the return of Ahlusion Aromatics (now without tobacco DNA!)?

No, not in the slightest. I feel that Wlad misled the NET community from the outset. I'm done with Ahlusion.

 

[Influence]

Known as Orinico, it offers a subtle sweetness with a great smokey flavor.

Never taste Orinico, some of you did ? Is it just like the description, subtle and smokey ?

 

[Jerms]

Never taste Orinico, some of you did ? Is it just like the description, subtle and smokey ?

Looks like it was spelt wrong, it's Orinoco. And Lizard Tail Orinoco is a specific type. I hadn't heard of it before. I couldn't find much info on it, but here's a couple things.. the first from a seed seller, and second from John Rolfe's wiki.

"Lizard Tail Orinoco originated from Virginian Orinoco's around 1960..It is stronger flavored than most Virginia Bright Leaf varieties and is a good choice for a fuller flavored cigarette or pipe blend, and also makes a good cigar filler. It matures early at 55 days. The dark green leaves are thick and closely spaced on the stalk. They lighten in color as they ripen with yellowing at the edges and cure to a rich brown."

" Orinoco tobacco: a cash crop
In competing with Spain for European markets, there was another problem beside the warmer climates the Spanish settlements enjoyed. The native tobacco from Virginia was not liked by the English settlers, nor did it appeal to the market in England. However, Rolfe wanted to introduce sweeter strains from Trinidad, using the hard-to-obtain Spanish seeds he brought with him. In 1611, Rolfe is credited with being the first to commercially cultivate Nicotiana tabacum tobacco plants in North America; export of this sweeter tobacco beginning in 1612 helped turn the Virginia Colony into a profitable venture. Rolfe named his Virginia-grown strain of the tobacco "Orinoco", possibly in honour of tobacco popularizer Sir Walter Raleigh's expeditions in the 1580s up the Orinoco River in Guiana in search of the legendary City of Gold, El Dorado.[2] The appeal of Orinoco tobacco was in its nicotine, and the conviviality of its use in social situations.[3]

 

[Influence]

Nick's description is "rich, brown tobacco and full flavored taste". I like that. Best option is to give it a try and see. His juices rarely disappointed me. It's on my basket.

 

[AnthonyB]

It's been a while since I've visited Naturally-Extracted-Tobacco.com ("NET.com"). Clay has been busy producing many new NETs over the last 3 or 4 months, He has added some new cigar extractions, Tea-baccos and a few new Hybrids and few more varietals it seems, since I last visited the site and put in an order.

It looks like an exciting line up of liquids. The site has really exploded with new extractions since it first opened up about 18 months ago. There is so much there for the connoisseur of NETs. Clay seems to have taken to a new specialised and boutique direction with his NET extraction. He has been innovative in a way that I think takes him down the road to a sophisticated array of tobacco choices and choices of flavor infusions that could only be considered as avante garde.

I think he is also experimenting with wrapper extraction. Now I could be wrong, but it sounds like Clay is experimenting with cigar wrapper extraction where he is combining the wrapper of one cigar with other tobaccos. I could be wrong here but I recall Clay discussing wrapper extraction about 6 months ago as an experiment. We agreed that rich maduro or Sumatran type wrappers would produce the best flavor and I am seeing new cigar NETS with sumatran or maduro wrappers.

Check out this awesome line up!

In his newest cigar extraction offering he has added 7th Cut, Berry Baile, Fist Full of Burley, Spec-0P3 and Starry Night. The actual cigars that have been extracted are not mentioned of course but I know when pressed Clay will occasionally mention the cigar that has been extracted.

Spec 0P-3 is similar in character to The Blonde with a botanic infusion. It could be a Kuba Kuba or another in the Drew Estate line up. In the past I've mentioned Drew Estate cigars as recommendations such as My Uzi Weighs a Tonne (though I don't think this one has a botanical infusion) and others that have yet been extracted commercially so it could be any in the Drew Estate line up that have botanicals. Hopefully, it is one that hasn't been extracted by any other vendor yet!

Starry Night is described as being a smooth cigar with an infusion of 'bourbon vanilla extract and ripe Georgia Peach Nectar.

The description for Berry Baile is as follows - This flavored cigar is VERY fruit forward! Berries soaked in vanilla, with acacia honey and cognac infused into a cigar made with Dominican fillers grown from Cuban-seed, draped in an Indonesian wrapper. Even those who don't think they'd ever enjoy a cigar, might want to rethink that with this one! This one excites me!

The 7th Cut has me gagging for some immediately. The description reads: "A very rare Seventh Cut/priming Ecuadorian Sumatra wrapper with the added boldness and "spice" inherent in this more sun-exposed tobacco leaf encases a hearty Mexican Habano binder and Nicaraguan fillers from Esteli, Condega, and Ometepe. This is one fine cigar that has been extracted; creating a somewhat dry and smokey spiced cigar flavor for those that prefer a quality, nuanced complexity."

Just the new cigar line ups have me excited but Clay has added so many more new NETS to the site that to cover all of them would require more than one post.

In summary he has 4 new single varietal tobaccos since I last visited the site. They are Natural Cavendish, Red Virginia, Shek El-Bint and White Burley. The shek el-bint is interesting because Clay says on the description that it is made of two types of Latakias with one of them being the rarer Syrian latakia.

There are 5 tea-baccos, 1 new RYO tobacco extraction called III Castles.

The one that has me most intrigued is the Excalibur. This is considered to be an 'exclusive' cigar extraction utilising a multi step extraction process. The description on the site reads like this:

Our first release utilizing an enhanced multi-step extraction process: EXCALIBUR!

A triple-fermented, Cuban-seed Nicaraguan maduro wrapper (aged for nearly 2 years, including a hefty stint in a Bourbon barrel) encases a rich and well-aged blend of Nicaraguan long-fillers. A HIGHLY regarded full-flavored, but very well-balanced smoke that's layered with notes of coffee, cocoa, sweet cedar, and earth. With our scaled up 3-step extraction process, these elements have transferred incredibly well into the extract...

It is about double the price of most of the merchandise on the site but I am going to give it a try.

 

[patioclark]

Okay Anthony, you got me. I just placed my first order with Clay for the cigars you outlined as well as the "Anthony B" rum tobacco. I've mostly been enjoying my own extractions lately and some of Diane's newer stuff and thought I'd give NET a try. I'll be happy to share some opinions for our group here in the near future.

Thanks for spurring me on, man.

 

[Influence]

Devil Dog is the first aromatic available now !