Natural Tobaccos - Part Deux

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*sigh* this what I'm talking about with HHV. Inconsistent batches, bottles lacking in flavour. I have a bottle of Pirates Booty and a bottle of Huntsman that make me want to gag, yet my order in 2013 of these same two juices and others were some of the most divine juices I've tried.

HHV : lift your game.

PS: it seems upon re reading this post, nibs juice was sickly sweet. That actually sounds how legend should be. Sweet bliss.


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Yeah I definitely don't think it was a quality error on their part. In fact when I opened it, it smelled EXACTLY like what I was looking for.
 

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Guys I've had a bottle of Legend from HHV sitting in my cabinet for about a month. My first vape from it was gag-inducing. Do all the NETs have that sickeningly sweet taste?

I'm stuck with a 100ml bottle of it, lol. Big mistake :facepalm:
No. My opinion from sampling all the A tiers and a few of the b tiers , heathers heavenly and indigo are at best hybrids , they're adding sweeteners and such to augment the base flavors.
 

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So much chatter.. :pop: Makes my heart glad!

I've been going through MVJ's pipe menu for the last few months, and I think I'm about 25% through .. Diane's gotta stop adding to the list at some point right?! :D

Other than that, Legend and Dark Horse from HHV have been keeping me company. I alternate between them since one is sweet and the other dry. Keeps my tastebuds in balance.

Nibs, the average steep time for Legend (according to a long steeper, me!) is 4 months. 2 months if impatient. I don't care for it much before then. The depth and flavours really develop after that time frame.

I'm proud to say that I am down to around 600ml of juice in my stash.. 100ml of Legend and Dark Horse and 9 bottles of MVJ (37ml). I may need to place an order soon.

Oh, I also got a couple bottles of NETs from Sleeping Dragon Vapor. A Blueberry Tobacco and a Pipe tobacco. I'll be breaking into them next week. These were International sample size.. 30ml bottles. :)
 

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If you don't find a new home for it message me and I will pay shipping for it :) (I am in Australia).

If your legend is sweet (the way it should be) it makes me think just maybe I should give HHV one last try, for old times sake. Who knows, maybe The 'BOOTY in Pirate's found its way back.



Yeah I definitely don't think it was a quality error on their part. In fact when I opened it, it smelled EXACTLY like what I was looking for.
 

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Vaping some homebrewed, cold-macerated NET tonight, one of my first.

Cult's Blood Red Moon, an aromatic cavendish blend with a "natural Royal Ann cherry and dark chocolate. A bit sweet, extremely rich, and unquestionably smooth.".
No doubt this is some good stuff have about 60 mls. of extract and I mix it at 15%.
 

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Right this minute vaping a spontaneous un-needed purchase and loving every drip of it.

I didn't read through every post and see if anyone else has posted it, but NJOY's Classic Tobacco is amazing..

Its hands down better than any tobacco I have tried for just the rolled leaf tobacco taste..
I have had better mixed honey chocolate tobacco-ish but none similar to a real hand rolled Cuban/fine cigar.

This is better than a hand rolled Cuban, its amazingly is all I can say..
it needs a day to air with cap off after a good shaking or cough city and then its ready to blow your cigar loving mind..

Walgreens carries the njoy ejuices and its not cheap but not expensive either, its worth it if your a fine cigar fan..

Once again hands down the best..

It is the njoy king bold tobacco flavor but with a bit more punch.. Not sweet, not lightly flavored, its perfection :blink: I guarantee you will e-njoy it lol..

It only comes in 15mg at my store so I made a 2Ω coil to enjoy it without overnic'ing myself I am at 3mg.
 

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Right this minute vaping a spontaneous un-needed purchase and loving every drip of it.

I didn't read through every post and see if anyone else has posted it, but NJOY's Classic Tobacco is amazing..

Its hands down better than any tobacco I have tried for just the rolled leaf tobacco taste..
I have had better mixed honey chocolate tobacco-ish but none similar to a real hand rolled Cuban/fine cigar.

This is better than a hand rolled Cuban, its amazingly is all I can say..
it needs a day to air with cap off after a good shaking or cough city and then its ready to blow your cigar loving mind..

Walgreens carries the njoy ejuices and its not cheap but not expensive either, its worth it if your a fine cigar fan..

Once again hands down the best..

It is the njoy king bold tobacco flavor but with a bit more punch.. Not sweet, not lightly flavored, its perfection :blink: I guarantee you will e-njoy it lol..

It only comes in 15mg at my store so I made a 2Ω coil to enjoy it without overnic'ing myself I am at 3mg.

I tell ya what,

Try a few naturally extracted cigar tobaccos from naturally-extracted-tobacco.com or from My Vape Juice or Want2Vape and if you still believe N-Joys tobacco absolute 'cigar' vape is better I will order a bottle for me and one for you for setting us all straight.

Deal? :)


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I tell ya what,

Try a few naturally extracted cigar tobaccos from naturally-extracted-tobacco.com or from My Vape Juice or Want2Vape and if you still believe N-Joys tobacco absolute 'cigar' vape is better I will order a bottle for me and one for you for setting us all straight.

Deal? :)


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It would be easier for you to try the njoy than for me to pik & choose one of the companies you listed, then if you think its not good as -- (you will think its good I hope:laugh:) -- I would also bet the proprietary njoy recipe is a net but it doesn't clog my atomizers-- one positive I'm liking about it. If you think I still need to, which I will in the future purchase the extracts anyway(thanks for heads up) if you think I need to purchase because njoy subpar = dang awesome...

I make my own well aged nets in pg.. I have really well seasoned pipes that I used my fav house mix in and one for capt black days.. I used the tamper and made a pile put that in vials of pg and let it steep... They are fantastic pipe nets but the NJOY is a cigar dunhillish cuban flavor and it is amazing IMO..

So not only will I be comparing NJOY, I will be comparing my own nets to your posted nets. woot... My diy net tobacco extracts are better than NJOY, I am not a cigar fan, only on the golf course, but in the cigar category its spectacular..

One thing I have tooooo much e juice now, just made a huge 1000ml +numerous flavors order from the wizard/nude already had over 500ml, so gimme a few months time I won't forget.. I wish I would have thought about buying nets from recommendation last week but always disappointed in the gunking regardless of flavor.. I use ss mesh, allergic to cotton wicking, so ya it clogs my ss mesh porosity and cakes with ashtray flavor, I have to change out a good non shorting wick and that is horrendous lol..

No deal but cutting the deck to play... Report back in a few, maybe sooner than later, very tempting..

BTW quite a few of us diy'ers have sought the njoy recipe clone to no avail, charged from flavoring of the njoy kings, was pleasantly surprised they finally made a juice and was pleased it is better than the disposable..
 

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Right this minute vaping a spontaneous un-needed purchase and loving every drip of it.

I didn't read through every post and see if anyone else has posted it, but NJOY's Classic Tobacco is amazing..

Its hands down better than any tobacco I have tried for just the rolled leaf tobacco taste..
I have had better mixed honey chocolate tobacco-ish but none similar to a real hand rolled Cuban/fine cigar.

This is better than a hand rolled Cuban, its amazingly is all I can say..
it needs a day to air with cap off after a good shaking or cough city and then its ready to blow your cigar loving mind..

Walgreens carries the njoy ejuices and its not cheap but not expensive either, its worth it if your a fine cigar fan..

Once again hands down the best..

It is the njoy king bold tobacco flavor but with a bit more punch.. Not sweet, not lightly flavored, its perfection :blink: I guarantee you will e-njoy it lol..

It only comes in 15mg at my store so I made a 2Ω coil to enjoy it without overnic'ing myself I am at 3mg.

I think it's good as well, but a NET ? Doubt it, but maybe some TA ? Sign up at their site and you can get it in 10 mg and 30 to 40 % off. They have sales almost daily.

On a different note, if you like coffees definitely try their Double Espresso.
 

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Pretty sure NJOY doesn't make NETS.

Well they have found a source for synthetic that noone can find lol, it has 0 synthetic taste. The only methodology left is, it's a net...
Yes every synthetic has been tried thats available to us civilians, some close, but yep their synthetic taste fails to properly mimic classic tobacco..

I think it's good as well, but a NET ? Doubt it, but maybe some TA ? Sign up at their site and you can get it in 10 mg and 30 to 40 % off. They have sales almost daily.

It doesn't have the TA ashy under note thats a perceptible on all TA's and 0 particulate.. IMO its an ethyl pressure cooked distilled net..
 
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Well they have found a source for synthetic that noone can find lol, it has 0 synthetic taste. The only methodology left is, it's a net...
Yes every synthetic has been tried thats available to us civilians, some close, but yep their synthetic taste fails to properly mimic classic tobacco..

You are aware that taste is subjective right? This means not everyone may share your perception that it's "the best".

Either way we get it, you've found your favorite cigar-like vape juice.

Now can we get back to NETS...which is what this thread is about.
 

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Today I revisited an old bottle of Fired in Georgia by QnJ. It is a little over five months old and this stuff really got better with age. Saying that because there seemed to be little to no peach for the first couple months. It was a sweet tobacco and not what I was looking for, so I put it away for a while. Well today I picked it up by accident (thought it was Fire in the Hole) and was shocked by how this turned out. The peach is exceptional and it has a smokey quality to it. Not really sure what the tobacco is as it is indistinguishable to me; just smokey so maybe something fire cured as it has fired in the name. Seems to be a common trend for me lately, the longer they (NET's) sit, the better they get. To bad I'm an impatient kinda guy...doh
 

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If your legend is sweet (the way it should be) it makes me think just maybe I should give HHV one last try, for old times sake. Who knows, maybe The 'BOOTY in Pirate's found its way back.

If you liked Legend first time you order, you should re-order it with a message to HHV explaining your last (bad) experience. I'm sure they'll be more careful this time.
Give also a try to Huntsman, Dark Horse and Gaia, they are good.
 

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It would be easier for you to try the njoy than for me to pik & choose one of the companies you listed, then if you think its not good as -- (you will think its good I hope:laugh:) -- I would also bet the proprietary njoy recipe is a net but it doesn't clog my atomizers-- one positive I'm liking about it. If you think I still need to, which I will in the future purchase the extracts anyway(thanks for heads up) if you think I need to purchase because njoy subpar = dang awesome...

I make my own well aged nets in pg.. I have really well seasoned pipes that I used my fav house mix in and one for capt black days.. I used the tamper and made a pile put that in vials of pg and let it steep... They are fantastic pipe nets but the NJOY is a cigar dunhillish cuban flavor and it is amazing IMO..

So not only will I be comparing NJOY, I will be comparing my own nets to your posted nets. woot... My diy net tobacco extracts are better than NJOY, I am not a cigar fan, only on the golf course, but in the cigar category its spectacular..

One thing I have tooooo much e juice now, just made a huge 1000ml +numerous flavors order from the wizard/nude already had over 500ml, so gimme a few months time I won't forget.. I wish I would have thought about buying nets from recommendation last week but always disappointed in the gunking regardless of flavor.. I use ss mesh, allergic to cotton wicking, so ya it clogs my ss mesh porosity and cakes with ashtray flavor, I have to change out a good non shorting wick and that is horrendous lol..

No deal but cutting the deck to play... Report back in a few, maybe sooner than later, very tempting..

BTW quite a few of us diy'ers have sought the njoy recipe clone to no avail, charged from flavoring of the njoy kings, was pleasantly surprised they finally made a juice and was pleased it is better than the disposable..

Too bad e-cigs are not sold in service stations in Australia, though I might find these Njoy liquids in a local flea market. I might see if I can hunt a bottle down.

In the past, before NET vendors exploded on the scene, I liked the occasional Chinese synthetic tobacco liquid.


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You are aware that taste is subjective right? This means not everyone may share your perception that it's "the best".

Either way we get it, you've found your favorite cigar-like vape juice.

Now can we get back to NETS...which is what this thread is about.

It was a narcissist blanket statement lol
I really do think its a net, a well done net, and its why I posted it in here..
 

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You are aware that taste is subjective right? This means not everyone may share your perception that it's "the best".

Either way we get it, you've found your favorite cigar-like vape juice.

Now can we get back to NETS...which is what this thread is about.

You know, there was a time in this thread where we enjoyed the occasional digression and the thread was busy and lively (and I don't consider discussion, by someone who understands and makes their own NETs, about a synthetic tobacco that tastes like a Net and may actually be a NET, to be that much of a digression).

Now I am seeing three posts a day on average and none on weekends.

If a vendor makes a liquid that tastes like a hand rolled Cuban cigar NET, well daym, I want to hear about it in the Natural Tobacco thread, whether it's a NET or not and especially if there are questions about whether it is a NET or not.

If not this thread then where?

Tomorrow I am going to write a long winded review about Andromeda by Space Jam to spark derision just to get the thread moving again :)

Or better still I might review a snicker doodle juice, because we are not ourselves when we are hungry and a good snicker doodle juice might hit the spot.


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You know, there was a time in this thread where we enjoyed the occasional digression and the thread was busy and lively (and I don't consider discussion, by someone who understands and makes their own NETs, about a synthetic tobacco that tastes like a Net to be that much of a digression).

Now I am seeing three posts a day and none on weekends.

Tomorrow I am going to write a long winded review about Andromeda by Space Jam to spark derision just to get the thread moving again :)


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Ok I make a TA not a net and I do understand how a net is made jack.. But you guys too douchey for me so I will just mosey along.
A gunking ejuice is crap regardless of how good it taste IMO.. Taste indeed are subjective refinements are not..
 
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Ok I make a TA not a net and I do understand how a net is made jack.. But you guys too douchey for me so I will just mosey along.
A gunking ejuice is crap regardless of how good it taste IMO.. Taste indeed are subjective refinements are not..

Hang around :) I was actually in your corner lol

Read it again.


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