Natural Tobaccos - Part Deux

[GeekyGeezer]

I think it's fair to say that I have never been accused of being subtle about very many things.

 

[ShaneR42]

I am not a good reference since I like a strong taste and bite. My favorite juices are latakia which is pretty stout to begin with. So with that disclaimer, I'll say that everything I vape mtl and enjoy so much is mixed with 33-40% extract....

Welp, I probably have enough "The Supreme" left for about a 20-30% mix. Guess I'll try it!

When I mixed my "fun" flavours for DTL (I only vape tobacco MTL), I always went high enough that folks told me I was "doing it wrong". Pfffft...lol. I soon realized that there was more opinion than science involved in vaping at that point. Might still be....I rarely keep tabs on it anymore.

 

[Fredman1]

When I say, "Mix for DTL", I usually mean lowering the nicotine level (I vape 18mg mtl; 3mg dtl) and maybe changing the pg/vg ratio. That said, the same juice can taste vastly different between the two styles. Usually all the flavours are there when I change to DTL, they're just at different "intensities", so it tastes different...if that makes sense. With Stixx Mixx, this flavour "intensity" is there DTL, but completely disappears when I MTL to the point that there's almost no flavour.

So, in my Stixx Mixx example above, when I mix "The Supreme" at, say, 9% flavouring for DTL...I taste the Havana Wrapper flavour quite distinctly and the other flavours in the blend come through nicely as well. Using the same percentage mix for a MTL setup the flavours are extremely muted and muddled with only a hint of anything tasting like tobacco. So, maybe upping the percentage of flavouring drastically (I've already done double the recommended in the past) will change things...who knows.

Again...airflow makes the difference for me. I imagine less air through a MTL will heat the coil more, and trap the subtle flavors.
More air through DL "carries" those flavors through better.
I'm just theorizing though...

 

[newyork13]

When I say, "Mix for DTL", I usually mean lowering the nicotine level (I vape 18mg mtl; 3mg dtl) and maybe changing the pg/vg ratio. That said, the same juice can taste vastly different between the two styles. Usually all the flavours are there when I change to DTL, they're just at different "intensities", so it tastes different...if that makes sense. With Stixx Mixx, this flavour "intensity" is there DTL, but completely disappears when I MTL to the point that there's almost no flavour.

So, in my Stixx Mixx example above, when I mix "The Supreme" at, say, 9% flavouring for DTL...I taste the Havana Wrapper flavour quite distinctly and the other flavours in the blend come through nicely as well. Using the same percentage mix for a MTL setup the flavours are extremely muted and muddled with only a hint of anything tasting like tobacco. So, maybe upping the percentage of flavouring drastically (I've already done double the recommended in the past) will change things...who knows.

Thanks, I get what you were saying.
I'm not sure about the really high % of flavoring which was talked about in subsequent posts, but it's all personal and all good.

 

[Fibas]

Hello good people !!
Since I vape, I have always used tobacco flavor. More recently I started to search for NET's. The first NET's I tried was La tabacheria extracts (latakia and oriental). I really liked it but I came across a problem, they kill coils in 2 days, at least latakia.
I have seen good comments here about stixx mixx, are they less aggressive on coils?
I found here, where I live (Europe) some Blacknote concentrates, does anyone have feedback? They say that they have the cleanest NET juice.
This is propably been answered before, but thats almost 800 pages to read, so forgive me.

Thanks

Fábio

 

[Fredman1]

Hello good people !!
Since I vape, I have always used tobacco flavor. More recently I started to search for NET's. The first NET's I tried was La tabacheria extracts (latakia and oriental). I really liked it but I came across a problem, they kill coils in 2 days, at least latakia.
I have seen good comments here about stixx mixx, are they less aggressive on coils?
I found here, where I live (Europe) some Blacknote concentrates, does anyone have feedback? They say that they have the cleanest NET juice.
This is propably been answered before, but thats almost 800 pages to read, so forgive me.

Thanks

Fábio

I find Black Note cleaner than Stixx. Stixx flavor is just as good as BN...bigger range and waaay cheaper. The new range from BN taste yucky to me.
I get about 3.5ml from Stixx before the wick starts tasting burnt. Bit of an irritant in the beginning, but i'm used to that by now...it is what it is. NETs has natural sugars.

 

[Fibas]

I find Black Note cleaner than Stixx. Stixx flavor is just as good as BN...bigger range and waaay cheaper. The new range from BN taste yucky to me.
I get about 3.5ml from Stixx before the wick starts tasting burnt. Bit of an irritant in the beginning, but i'm used to that by now...it is what it is. NETs has natural sugars.

Im going to give Stixx Mixx a try, Just need to read their flavour profiles and choose whats best for me...
Thanks

Fábio

 

[Fredman1]

Im going to give Stixx Mixx a try, Just need to read their flavour profiles and choose whats best for me...
Thanks

Fábio

Ah mate they're all good...and he sends free samples to. Good man ol Ty

 

[Bronze]

Remember, Stixx Mixx are extracts for the DIY crowd. They are not ready-to-vape juices.

 

[newyork13]

Hello good people !!
Since I vape, I have always used tobacco flavor. More recently I started to search for NET's. The first NET's I tried was La tabacheria extracts (latakia and oriental). I really liked it but I came across a problem, they kill coils in 2 days, at least latakia.
I have seen good comments here about stixx mixx, are they less aggressive on coils?
I found here, where I live (Europe) some Blacknote concentrates, does anyone have feedback? They say that they have the cleanest NET juice.
This is propably been answered before, but thats almost 800 pages to read, so forgive me.

Thanks

Fábio

I vape NETs from most of them. I agree that Blacknote does vape cleaner and has a purer less harsh and less ashtray flavor generally. Of the premades, for me they were able to produce juice with a natural sweetness that is very pleasing for me. That said, they aren't cheap. But, that's for the premade liquid. I have no experience with their concentrates.
Stixx is very good. I mix their concentrates happily. And they are clean.

 

[Fibas]

Remember, Stixx Mixx are extracts for the DIY crowd. They are not ready-to-vape juices.

Sure, I'm aware of that...
Thanks

 

[Fibas]

I vape NETs from most of them. I agree that Blacknote does vape cleaner and has a purer less harsh and less ashtray flavor generally. Of the premades, for me they were able to produce juice with a natural sweetness that is very pleasing for me. That said, they aren't cheap. But, that's for the premade liquid. I have no experience with their concentrates.
Stixx is very good. I mix their concentrates happily. And they are clean.

Ah mate they're all good...and he sends free samples to. Good man ol Ty

Good to hear that...
Thanks for the help

 

[Bronze]

Sure, I'm aware of that...
Thanks

That was kind of a general announcement. Got to thinking I'd hate to see someone load up a tank of that and vape it.

 

[Frankenmizer]

A shoutout to Real Tobacco Extracts. I bought three cigar juices this morning: Cuban #1 and #2, and iirc the VA Oscuro.

The owner of RTE called me on the phone to thank me as a new customer and to talk a little N.E.T. shop. Great guy - we talked for about ten minutes or so, discussing the cigar liquids on offer, and I got a few tips on mixing the varieties. He also discussed the nicotine he uses (European).

Needless to say, I gave this forum a shout out. I rarely post anymore, but I lurketh a lot.

Stay safe gang.

 

[YePsTeR]

Same thing with me. I have not bought NET's for some time and I just used up my last bottle of River Bottom Fog. Called him up and he was very helpful. Needles to say a big order was placed.

 

[Skeebo]

I just used up my last bottle of River Bottom Fog. Called him up and he was very helpful.

That had to be painful seeing the last bit of that magical elixir pour from the bottle.

 

[YePsTeR]

O man, did I order a ton on that clearance event!

 

[newyork13]

A shoutout to Real Tobacco Extracts. I bought three cigar juices this morning: Cuban #1 and #2, and iirc the VA Oscuro.

The owner of RTE called me on the phone to thank me as a new customer and to talk a little N.E.T. shop. Great guy - we talked for about ten minutes or so, discussing the cigar liquids on offer, and I got a few tips on mixing the varieties. He also discussed the nicotine he uses (European).

Needless to say, I gave this forum a shout out. I rarely post anymore, but I lurketh a lot.

Stay safe gang.

I haven't bought any from RTE for months, because I'm all over the place. That said, he's great. And a few of his juices are on my best list.

 

[Skeebo]

O man, did I order a ton on that clearance event!

I missed it however I had a huge supply when the place that sold River Bottom Fog Sauce had a huge Christmas sale where the first 10 to order got like 4 bottles for $10. I think I got 16 30ml bottles during that event alone.

 

[Fstop]

Probably a smart move. It had been about a year sense Id ordered from NET.com. I also felt that things had went down hill from several years back Id moved on to other vendors I prefer but I saw the 4th of July promotional email and for reasons I dont even know, figured why not, see if things had gotten better. Just a small order 120ml.

Well I placed the order 7/5.
On 7/11 I received a pre shipment tracking email, just saying a shipping label had been created and USPS is still awaiting the shipment.
Well thats where it still stands today. It appears by the tracking USPS still hasnt received the order. I emailed Clay this morning to look into it. I gave him an out saying hes fine to cancel and refund which honestly Id prefer that, but I figure deserves the chance to fulfill the order if he wants. I wish Id not even ordered. Its definitely the last even if it gets completed.

Well, there are not that many NET's to choose from. I switched to Real Tobacco Extracts years ago when Clay's order hadn't arrived after a six week wait. I never looked back. Real Extracts always has shipped fast and has never disappointed me with the tobacco extracts. The cigar varieties are wonderful too.

I'm looking for Cigarette Tobacco Vape Options. I was a Light CIG Smoker as of Aug6, Any Suggestions & Links, are appreciated.