Natural Tobaccos

[gthompson]

I'd love to get hold of some Gandalf #1 so I could have the complete set.

 

[EleanorR]

Young Gandalf? Why Eleanor, you are a juice cougar!

I know . . . dangit, I'm ruining my own reputation!

 

[Bronze]

I'd love to get hold of some Gandalf #1 so I could have the complete set.

Ganddage Patch Kids

 

[scarf-ace]

Addendum to my Jiggy review: Yesterday I was enjoying it so much that I decided to carry it on my mini-Ego in my pocket (I wear a semi-fitted suit jacket to work) instead of on the long Twist.

Low voltage/wattage changes it. It is sweeter and closer to the smell (gummy bears). Very different juice. No less nice, but different. I like the floral aspect so I will keep it on a bigger battery.

 

[Mr.Mann]

This just in: I sent Adam a text message and he called me back. We talked for approximately a half an hour and I have some news to report. There was no actual commitment to add Gandalf#1 to the menu, however (I am saying this on behalf of HHV): If you want Gandalf #1, just ask for it in your notes.

My thoughts: Gandalf is technically not the juice, but the extract. So, Gandalf as it currently is, will be mixed as it has been. If you want Gandalf the old way/original, they will mix the juice with the those proportions of extract to pg/vg. The default option for Gandalf is #2, but if you ask for #1, that is how you will get it. Got it? Spread the word.

 

[gthompson]

What about #3 and #4?


All four are the same extract.

 

[Bronze]

This just in: I sent Adam a text message and he called me back. We talked for approximately a half an hour and I have some news to report. There was no actual commitment to add Gandalf#1 to the menu, however (I am saying this on behalf of HHV): If you want Gandalf #1, just ask for it in your notes.

My thoughts: Gandalf is technically not the juice, but the extract. So, Gandalf as it currently is, will be mixed as it has been. If you want Gandalf the old way/original, they will mix the juice with the those proportions of extract to pg/vg. The default option for Gandalf is #2, but if you [ask /COLOR]for #1, that is how you will get it. Got it? Spread the word.

Good work. Now, what did Gandy 1 taste like?

 

[gthompson]

I was told Gandy 3 was Gandy 1.

 

[Bronze]

I always thought Gandy 2 was supposed to be Serendipity.

 

[gthompson]

I always thought Gandy 2 was supposed to be Serendipity.

It might supposed to be.....

 

[Mr.Mann]

Good work. Now, what did Gandy 1 taste like?

I think this says it all about #1 (boy, do I miss Ohai!) from July 2nd:

I originally posted this in the wrongest thread possible for it- the heavy, in your face tobacco thread, when I had intended to post it here, so forgive me for the redundancy if you read it there too- it does not belong there, lol. This is a very gentle, graceful, pacifist juice that wouldn't get in your face if you insulted its mama.


Disclaimer- I don't usually vape tobaccos. My first vaping experience was with Cowboy, which I assumed I would like, being a Marlboro Lights girl, but no. Cowboy, to me, was kinda like... licking a cowboy. And not one of those cute rodeo/drugstore cowboys- a real cowboy, on branding day. Sweaty, sour, dusty, grumpy and tired.

So I quickly moved on to foodie flavors, which I love, and I love to experiment with odd combinations of fruity and bakery and savories and aromatics and spices, but I've stayed away from tobacco vapes for the most part, because I just frankly disliked every "cigalike" sample I tried, and I really don't know a thing about real tobacco at all.

However... I've always loved the smell of good pipe tobacco. My uncle used to smoke a pipe when I was a kid, and I was always fascinated with the beauty of a pipe- someday I'm getting a jazz pipe to vape with whether I can afford it or not. They're just too gorgeous.

But anyway- just so you know- I'm an absolute beginner here. /disclaimer

Some very kind and generous tobacconist vaper here on ECF happened to offer me a taste of Gandalf from Heather's Heavenly Vapes, and I was intrigued enough by the descriptions of it to pounce on the opportunity to try it. It's been a real challenge waiting all day til I could give it my full undivided attention, but I figured it would be worth it to wait, and boy did I figure right.

I'm dripping it on an Innokin itaste, 3.0 ohm atty, and I'm still messing around with it, but I think I'm liking it best at 4.2 v.

I'm not even sure where to start trying to describe it, it's so different and elusive to me, but after about five minutes of it, all I wanted to do was fill my lungs with it and breathe. It just makes me want to inhale forever. It's got a rich and round sort of gentle body to it, a lovely sort of light earthy walk in the woods at twilight taste. It's soft in your mouth, creamy, almost a pleasantly oily luxurious kind of mouth feel, but that's just sort of a cradling undertone, a place for everything else to rest. There's a hint of sweet smokiness, almost like a whiff of burning leaves in the fall. I think that's where I'm tasting a little something caramel, which I don't usually like, but am enjoying here very much. It isn't sweet to me, though- in fact, I'm loving how little sugaryness there is in it. It's mellow and rich and somehow very golden tasting to me. If this is natural tobacco, I'm sold.

If you'll forgive the abstraction, it really put me in mind of Robert Frost's Nothing Gold Can Stay.

Nature's first green is gold,
Her hardest hue to hold.
Her early leaf's a flower;
But only so an hour.
Then leaf subsides to leaf.
So Eden sank to grief,
So dawn goes down to day.
Nothing gold can stay.

I have to say, I'm completely smitten. If I ever do get that jazz pipe, this is the juice that will christen it.

And now I want to cry, because it's going to be gone way too soon, so Heather will be getting a visit from my Visa tonight.

 

[Bronze]

Beautifully written. I'd like to see how she'd write it with Gandy #3 to compare it to. By Gandy #3, I mean the Cherrydalf (as it is commonly referred) that is currently served when Gandalf is ordered. Can it be safely said that Gandy #1 and Cherrydalf have nothing in common?

 

[gthompson]

That sounds closer to what I have now, which would be #3. Others describe #1 as chocolaty, marshmallowy, which is what my #2 was. So which one is #1? Adam says what I have now is #1.

 

[gthompson]

I only get the "cherry" notes at very low wattage.

 

[Mr.Mann]

Beautifully written. I'd like to see how she'd write it with Gandy #3 to compare it to. By Gandy #3, I mean the Cherrydalf (as it is commonly referred) that is currently served when Gandalf is ordered. Can it be safely said that Gandy #1 and Cherrydalf have nothing in common?

The first one vs. the second one are similar, but the first one was completely as easy to vape as any juice that I can remember.

#1 The beginning of July and prior (you have to ask for it now)
#2 Around mid-July to present and beyond (all you have to do is order it as is)
#3 Serendipity (all you have to do is order it as is)

 

[gthompson]

And unless we missed a version somewhere, the default is not #2.

 

[gthompson]

The first one vs. the second one are similar, but the first one was completely as easy to vape as any juice that I can remember.

#1 The beginning of July and prior (you have to ask for it now)
#2 Around mid-July to present and beyond (all you have to do is order it as is)
#3 Serendipity (all you have to do is order it as is)

I have bottles of juice in my hands that do not fit those statements.

 

[gthompson]

And Gandalf was introduced in July, so there was no prior to July.

 

[gthompson]

Don't get me wrong, I'm obviously a huge HHV fan, and I've bought a lot of juice from them. I've purchased multiple bottles of Dragon's Fire, Pirate's Booty, Shadowfax, Oompa, and Heavenly Tobacco among others, and every bottle has tasted exactly like the previous bottle, every time, without fail. Gandalf appears to be problematic.....

 

[scarf-ace]

Here is a possibly foolish and not-intended-to-be-smart-alecky question:
Do Adam and Heather vape?
Because I would presume that a taste of the stuff in question, and at various points along the extraction and steeping process, would have solved these issues and differences.