I thought "the eye of the needle" was NT...
I think OT means off topic. though in the context it would get confusing.
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I think OT means off topic. though in the context it would get confusing.
I'm right there with you, man. I also ordered both yesterday, but at 12mg (trying to cut down as the 18 or 24 juices were getting me all wonky because I vape so much). Pretty excited here.
Oh, BTW, Howdy all. I really like what I have read on this thread so far. Good stuff.
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(clears throat) I hate to take issue with Luce in his own thread, but his answer is not quite accurate.
Yes, nicotine is definitely natural to the tobacco plant; yes, the FDA now requires that tobacco slurry (the smooshed-up, semi-liquefied product that dries in sheets so it can be mechanically rolled into uniform cigarettes) be "treated" with garsh-awful chemicals in order to make cigs "fire safe"; but no, the 4000+ chemicals in cigarette smoke we've all read/heard about ad nauseam are actually by-products of tobacco leaf combustion. (See, e.g., all the safety studies of Swedish snus.)
Because nicotine is a natural (and powerful) insecticide, tobaccco plants do not require chemical pesticide in the field. Tobacco extraction does not involve combustion, so NETS should be just as safe as (if not safer than) snus.
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Thanks for clarifying. I tried to answer from what I've heard and am truly grateful that you actually brought the scientific facts. I'll fully admit I was wrong!!
It's like I tell my volunteers at work: the #1 rule is to tell me when I'm do/say something stupid!
It's like I tell my volunteers at work: the #1 rule is to tell me when I'm do/say something stupid!
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Thank you - I have always been confused as to when those 4000 chemicals enter the process. This really clears it up. However, for some reason it was my understanding that nicotine is not really harmful (i.e. does not cause cancer and is not a whole lot different from caffeine in a sense). But being that it's a natural "powerful" insecticide, I guess it's not totally harmless. IMO, better than the analogs though.
Sorry for taking this thread so off topic, Luce. So back to tobacco flavors! BTW - both my son and husband loved Gandolf from HHV so thanks everyone for your descriptions!
"The dose makes the poison" -- Toxicology 101Actually, nicotine per se is highly poisonous (neuro-toxic): that's why DIYers have to take extreme caution when handling the stuff at 100mg/ml concentrates. It is possible to kill someone by applying a high dose of pure nicotine to his skin.
However, in the itsy-bitsy amounts found in both cigs and e-juice, nicotine is just plain good for you: elevates mood, improves concentration, etc. Like caffeine (but much less so), it can also mildly elevate heart rate.
If you have children or pets, you definitely want to keep your juice bottles locked safely away. Actually drinking a 30ml bottle (you know toddlers and dogs!) could be, um, highly problematic.
More people die everyday from dihydrogen monoxide poisoning, due to overdosing, than actual nicotine.
Dihydrogen monoxide
- is called “hydroxyl acid”, the substance is the major component of acid rain.
- contributes to the “greenhouse effect”.
- may cause severe burns.
- is fatal if inhaled.
- contributes to the erosion of our natural landscape.
- accelerates corrosion and rusting of many metals.
- may cause electrical failures and decreased effectiveness of automobile brakes.
- has been found in excised tumors of terminal cancer patients.
Despite the danger, dihydrogen monoxide is often used: - as an industrial solvent and coolant.
- in nuclear power plants.
- in the production of Styrofoam.
- as a fire ......ant.
- in many forms of cruel animal research.
- in the distribution of pesticides. Even after washing, produce remains contaminated by this chemical.
- as an additive in certain “junk-foods” and other food products.
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More people die everyday from dihydrogen monoxide poisoning, due to overdosing, than actual nicotine.
Dihydrogen monoxide
- is called “hydroxyl acid”, the substance is the major component of acid rain.
- contributes to the “greenhouse effect”.
- may cause severe burns.
- is fatal if inhaled.
- contributes to the erosion of our natural landscape.
- accelerates corrosion and rusting of many metals.
- may cause electrical failures and decreased effectiveness of automobile brakes.
- has been found in excised tumors of terminal cancer patients.
Despite the danger, dihydrogen monoxide is often used:
[*]as an industrial solvent and coolant.
[*]in nuclear power plants.
[*]in the production of Styrofoam.
[*]as a fire ......ant.
[*]in many forms of cruel animal research.
[*]in the distribution of pesticides. Even after washing, produce remains contaminated by this chemical.
[*]as an additive in certain “junk-foods” and other food products.
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You forgot, "And is a crucial component in the making of coffee and tea."
Ok, so, I got my order from Goodejuice.com yesterday. All 12mg.
1. Natural Perique
2. Vita Bella
3. Acadian Gold
4. Organic Tobacco
5. Patriot Tobacco
I have to say this is an interesting lot. All have a very unique tobacco flavor and are pretty good. I tried attys at first, and wasn't very impressed. I think they are at the end of their life cycle so I order some fresh ones. Next I tried some Boge 2.0 SC cartos and the experience was quite a bit better. I'm curious what others have found with this juice, and whether a steep is in order. My first impression is that the tastes will be better over time. I have to say though, these tobacco flavors are some of the best, and most unique, I have tried so far. Still waiting for my HHV Gandalf, Huntsman, Dragons Fire, Cowboy Savior, and an order from Want2Vape, Vapenstien London and Paris.
Glad I stopped by. Thanks y'all. Especially you, Mr. Mann, for steering me and the suggestions.
1. Natural Perique
2. Vita Bella
3. Acadian Gold
4. Organic Tobacco
5. Patriot Tobacco
I have to say this is an interesting lot. All have a very unique tobacco flavor and are pretty good. I tried attys at first, and wasn't very impressed. I think they are at the end of their life cycle so I order some fresh ones. Next I tried some Boge 2.0 SC cartos and the experience was quite a bit better. I'm curious what others have found with this juice, and whether a steep is in order. My first impression is that the tastes will be better over time. I have to say though, these tobacco flavors are some of the best, and most unique, I have tried so far. Still waiting for my HHV Gandalf, Huntsman, Dragons Fire, Cowboy Savior, and an order from Want2Vape, Vapenstien London and Paris.
Glad I stopped by. Thanks y'all. Especially you, Mr. Mann, for steering me and the suggestions.
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TBinAZ, I am vaping Vita Bella out of a Joye standard atty on my ProVari and it is tasting how it should taste, which is marvelous. I don't know how much steeping will improve the flavor or not, but I think the flavor of these have to be almost learned. Because these aren't "mixes" the actual experience is really not akin too much other than maybe W2V or Ahlusion (though I have not had Ahlusion, just going off luce's words) or a few other NET juices, but not all. When I first got GEJs tobaccos I loved them, but didn't quite understand them; now I love them and am getting to understand them with each puff. Spend some time with each juice without bouncing around too much from flavor to flavor, jot down some thoughts and see how they all take different turns.
Mann
p.s. Sorry I can't be more helpful right now--I am doing my best impression of someone who didn't receive bad news a little while ago--but maybe luce or SBR can chime in. Good luck.
Mann
p.s. Sorry I can't be more helpful right now--I am doing my best impression of someone who didn't receive bad news a little while ago--but maybe luce or SBR can chime in. Good luck.
Hello, all, I havent sampled too many so far, but I do like MadHatter from Kalamazoo. Its supposed to me a smooth tobacco, but its hard to describe. It definitely has some sort of fruit to it, but it is smooth and good for all day. It has some spicy hint. I have some Poison from RawR steeping and some vermillion house blend tobacco aging, I tried some after steeping for a couple days, its very tobacco and dry hoping it gets better, not that its bad, just dry. I have some of vermillion rivers kentucky cherrywood also aging. It is a smooth tobacco with a very woody cherry, very unusual. I cant figure out how its woody. Anyone else out try these? Hoping to try Heathers Heavenly tobacco and Halo, are all the organic tobacco on they dry and woody side? I dont like real sweet vape, but finding most are a bit dry. I definately do not like the artificial tobacco like flavors. I can tell the difference now, and do find the organic or natural tobaccos are what Im heading towards. This is a great thread. I cant wait for Nitelite to start selling their tobaccos again.
Hello TBinAZ,
I have the Vita Bella and after a couple drops I had to put it in a tank for sure , it's a great flavor for me ! a all day vape.
I have not tried the others from them yet. I do have Gandalf and Huntsman on the way, kinda slow shipping.....
However I do have Want 2 Vape / Vapenstein London is really good, Paris-ok , Red Pirate good ! and I just got Morley pretty good flavor too. ! W2V has a bunch of great tobacco natural extracted e-liquids......
Have you tried Highbrow's , Highbrowbacco--Cigar , a very nice vape , as with the Highbrowbacco--RY4 really good and the Highbrowbacco--Exotic , I had apple added to it but you can get it how you like Highbrow is cool like that , make it how you like it add this add that , they love to experiment with you to make it custom for you !
Best Wishes.............
I have the Vita Bella and after a couple drops I had to put it in a tank for sure , it's a great flavor for me ! a all day vape.
I have not tried the others from them yet. I do have Gandalf and Huntsman on the way, kinda slow shipping.....
However I do have Want 2 Vape / Vapenstein London is really good, Paris-ok , Red Pirate good ! and I just got Morley pretty good flavor too. ! W2V has a bunch of great tobacco natural extracted e-liquids......
Have you tried Highbrow's , Highbrowbacco--Cigar , a very nice vape , as with the Highbrowbacco--RY4 really good and the Highbrowbacco--Exotic , I had apple added to it but you can get it how you like Highbrow is cool like that , make it how you like it add this add that , they love to experiment with you to make it custom for you !
Best Wishes.............
Mr. Goodwrench, the couple who own HHV are on a belated honeymoon, and will not resume shipping orders until July 23rd (even though the website is still taking orders). They plan to mix and ship in the order in which orders were received, so (I hate to tell you) its probably going to be another week or so before you get your Gandalf.
I assure you that, when Heather and Adam are not on honeymoon, they mix and ship orders with incredible speed!
I assure you that, when Heather and Adam are not on honeymoon, they mix and ship orders with incredible speed!
Mr. Goodwrench, the couple who own HHV are on a belated honeymoon, and will not resume shipping orders until July 23rd (even though the website is still taking orders). They plan to mix and ship in the order in which orders were received, so (I hate to tell you) its probably going to be another week or so before you get your Gandalf.
I assure you that, when Heather and Adam are not on honeymoon, they mix and ship orders with incredible speed!
Oh yeah! They ship as fast or faster than most!
Thanks for this! Believe it or not, these wishes and vibes were felt! I swear my attys even started performing better after I read this.
I am having to learn hard lessons, but such is life.Wow, I must have timed it just right. I received my HHV sampler today. Trying some of the Gandalf right now in a new clearo. Great stuff! Can't wait to get my new attys. Heck I might even try to work over my old attys and see if I can revive them for a few more days. Luckily, I have another brand new clearo for the Huntsman...
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