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Looks like I get to try out the MOV and W2V juices that I ordered tomorrow... finally ( funny how long 2 days + a weekend seem to feel when you are waiting... )

Me too! W2V for sure, MOV might not be until tues. Braided silica is scheduled for arrival tomorrow too. What the consensus on how much W2V premium tobaccos change with steeping?

Took Puros for an extended vaping session today in my rda. Working really good for me now, still nutty but adapting to it. Kicks like a mule.

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I can't remember even though I've read it "a hundred times".... but I think a more important question may be... Will they last long enough to even steep? :D

I'll only be getting 6ml of each of the premium, so if they taste good right away maybe not. Since the Coffee-Infused is made with that amazing Tobak Especial I smoked a couple days ago I see that one going quick. On the other hand, I have a lot of juice coming and a lot still in my stash.

I'm really hoping the PURE "Smoke" tastes like Malty with tobacco.

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Me too! W2V for sure, MOV might not be until tues. Braided silica is scheduled for arrival tomorrow too. What the consensus on how much W2V premium tobaccos change with steeping?

Took Puros for an extended vaping session today in my RDA. Working really good for me now, still nutty but adapting to it. Kicks like a mule.

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In my experience, the W2V stogies were good to go from the jump, and didn't change much. Dig in.
 

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I received 10 NETs today from W2V and MOV. I have a lot more juice coming and decided to do things different with my hobby. Before, I would try all the juices I receive and then put them away in my steep box for 2-6 weeks while I continued vaping current juices.

I've realized, for me, steeping is kind of pointless since all my juices last a long time as I always have dozens on hand and switch juices often. No more cap on, cap off, shake shake shake. No more time schedule. They get shaked when I vape and get exposed to air each time I drip, so just going to let my vaping style take care of all the aging.

When I receive juices I'll just put them all away in the holding box, and slowly release a couple at a time to extend how often I get to taste new juices. Maybe a couple new juice every few days or week, haven't really decided yet. Only issue is, some will be sitting that I'm pretty curious about (all of them lol). Maybe out of sight, out of mind won't make that too hard.

The two I tried today, one from W2V and one from MOV, just wowed, completely floored me. Almost all NETs I get that are suggested to me are high quality and well-made. How much I personally like them varies from just vapable to a high appreciation. Once in a while one will come along that just seems like it was made for me. My last new juices from HoL are fantastic and I really like a couple of them a lot, but the two today hit that category of really special that's fairly rare. Will post on them later.

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That is what Mr.Mann also said... they are good out of the box and then become less so as they age...

Since I have two 3ml bottles of each of the premiums, I'm gonna combine them into 7ml clear, stiff plastic bottles. Those type don't allow air to pass through the walls like the other type, so should keep them fresh longer. The 10ml bottle of Pure "Smoke" is in the same type of bottle GeJ uses for 12ml, and it's filled to the top so I think W2V gives a little extra in that size.

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So which W2V and MOV rocked your world Jerms? :)

I received 10 NETs today from W2V and MOV. I have a lot more juice coming and decided to do things different with my hobby. Before, I would try all the juices I receive and then put them away in my steep box for 2-6 weeks while I continued vaping current juices.

I've realized, for me, steeping is kind of pointless since all my juices last a long time as I always have dozens on hand and switch juices often. No more cap on, cap off, shake shake shake. No more time schedule. They get shaked when I vape and get exposed to air each time I drip, so just going to let my vaping style take care of all the aging.

When I receive juices I'll just put them all away in the holding box, and slowly release a couple at a time to extend how often I get to taste new juices. Maybe a couple new juice every few days or week, haven't really decided yet. Only issue is, some will be sitting that I'm pretty curious about (all of them lol). Maybe out of sight, out of mind won't make that too hard.

The two I tried today, one from W2V and one from MOV, just wowed, completely floored me. Almost all NETs I get that are suggested to me are high quality and well-made. How much I personally like them varies from just vapable to a high appreciation. Once in a while one will come along that just seems like it was made for me. My last new juices from HoL are fantastic and I really like a couple of them a lot, but the two today hit that category of really special that's fairly rare. Will post on them later.

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I got my W2V and MOV's in also.... but the only one I've tasted tested so far is the W2V Mystic Menthol which I don't think it's a NET based on their description... still for what it's worth...

It really is a menthol ( which I expected being a W2V ) the strength is a couple of notches more than the GeJ NET Menthol ICE but isn't overpowering, probably a real Newport strength but not up to Kool strength. I prefer the level used in GeJ... The tobacco notes ( however they are made ) are actually a deep rich flavor but due to the menthol it's tough for me to define them further... not that I'm good at that anyway. If this is an artificially created tobacco, it's one of the better menthols I've tried, if it's a NET ( which I doubt )... I think they could have selected a better tobacco base for it as far as my own tastes which would be for a bit milder American or Turkish blend
 

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So which W2V and MOV rocked your world Jerms? :)

Well, the one from MOV is Sunday Morning. Embarrassing to say, but when I wrote that I thought I was vaping Pendragon, since that was my original intention to vape first. I was baffled. Mainly what I've heard about Pendragon is that it's subtle and weak on the tobacco. What I was tasting was a very full tobacco with a lot of flavor. Tons of it, and simply delicious. I wasn't sure what I was tasting along with the distictive pipe tobacco taste, I couldn't detect cherry (of course) but I could get hints of vanilla (turns out that was probably the cream).

When I was transferring it into an easier to drip plastic bottle from it's glass bottle I realized my error. Face red, I vaped again, and the coffee was obvious. Looked up how they described it on the site and they say it's a dark, robust, and aromatic pipe tobacco with their coffee and cream. That description is pretty spot-on. The coffee is fairly subtle, not the typical in-your-face, slightly bitter black coffee often found in vapes. It's a fairly mild coffee with cream and sugar, and really plays mainly to enhance the rich tobacco. The juice is a light amber and clean, so it's kind of a suprise that the tobacco is so robust.

When I thought it was Pendragon I was trying to think of a polite way to tell people they are crazy if they think this is a light and subtle NET. I am sooo glad I realized my mistake before that lol. It's such an honest, authentic pipe experience that has notes of coffee and cream. Honestly one of my favorite juices I've tried.

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He's working up the suspense... :D

Lol, nah just trying to wrap my head around these. The W2V one is the PURE "Smoke". It's just what I was hoping, a BWB Malty with tobacco. This ones hard to figure out. It's so unique, being a tobacco sweetened with spun sugar. My brain was pretty shocked at the combo of these flavors. The spun sugar is a lot stronger than Malty. It's been a while, but I remember Malty as being very subtle, the flavor was great but it was kind of a tease and hard to detect. Vaping for more than a couple minutes it was almost unflavored.

I don't know if their PURE is really a lot stronger than Malty. I think it may be, but my evolving taste buds and different set-up may be exaggerating it. I'm using my IGO-S for the first time. It's a great little RBA, the smallness being beneficial for flavor, and I'm also using thicker 30 gauge wire for the first time which I hear is better for flavor than 32 gauge. The coil with four wraps ended up being only 1.1 ohm, too low for my VAMO so had to use a Twist, at lowest setting of course.

I digress, anyways the PURE flavor is strong spun sugar and extremely pleasing to my pallet. Such a great sweetness that plays different than candy, fruit, or heavier caramel sweet. It's a flavor that just works for me. The tobacco is harder to figure out. I don't know if the "tobacco extract" used is of the artificial or natural variety, I e-mailed them to ask. It's basically analog-ish. A little ashy and dirty and some may find it unpleasant. I happen to think it makes a great contrast to the PURE, and the almost foul, burning cheap cigarette taste alongside the spun sugar is fascinating. It takes dirty cig taste and makes it extremely vapable for me. I'm in awe of this juice as well as Sunday Morning, in two very different ways.

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Jerms....

I thought you'd be checkin' out the Pure Smoke as one of your first ones... that is my next juice to try also.

I was getting ready to rinse out the Vapensteing Paris from my IGO-L, it needs some time to mellow before I make a decision on it... At present, I don't care for it but Tbaz said it was better after it steeped and mellowed out ( he also enjoyed it initially though )... so I'll certainly give it another chance. I can say this, at 5/95 PG/VG, I like this ratio a lot... it's much smoother on the throat which is something I need to consider on future purchases even if the flavor gets muted a bit from it. I may make my future ratio's at 30/70 PG/VG when the option is given.
 

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Just tried the W2V Pure Smoke... I think the base is the same as in Paris, or at least that I what I taste with the sweeter parts that Jerms mentioned. The tobacco isn't as in your face as it is with Paris but the flavor profile is very close to the same. So Pure Smoke get's it's cap taken off for a bit and goes back to steep...
 

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Well, the one from MOV is Sunday Morning. Embarrassing to say, but when I wrote that I thought I was vaping Pendragon, since that was my original intention to vape first. I was baffled. Mainly what I've heard about Pendragon is that it's subtle and weak on the tobacco. What I was tasting was a very full tobacco with a lot of flavor. Tons of it, and simply delicious. I wasn't sure what I was tasting along with the distictive pipe tobacco taste, I couldn't detect cherry (of course) but I could get hints of vanilla (turns out that was probably the cream).

When I was transferring it into an easier to drip plastic bottle from it's glass bottle I realized my error. Face red, I vaped again, and the coffee was obvious. Looked up how they described it on the site and they say it's a dark, robust, and aromatic pipe tobacco with their coffee and cream. That description is pretty spot-on. The coffee is fairly subtle, not the typical in-your-face, slightly bitter black coffee often found in vapes. It's a fairly mild coffee with cream and sugar, and really plays mainly to enhance the rich tobacco. The juice is a light amber and clean, so it's kind of a suprise that the tobacco is so robust.

When I thought it was Pendragon I was trying to think of a polite way to tell people they are crazy if they think this is a light and subtle NET. I am sooo glad I realized my mistake before that lol. It's such an honest, authentic pipe experience that has notes of coffee and cream. Honestly one of my favorite juices I've tried.

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Been chuckling since I read this. Picturing your consternation while trying to come up with a polite way to tell poeple they're crazy. :laugh:
You inspired me to clean a mini Nova since my IGO isn't performing as well as I'd like. (Coils too tight)? Sunday Morning performs well in a Nova. :)
 

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Been chuckling since I read this. Picturing your consternation while trying to come up with a polite way to tell poeple they're crazy. :laugh:
You inspired me to clean a mini Nova since my IGO isn't performing as well as I'd like. (Coils too tight)? Sunday Morning performs well in a Nova. :)

Well, now I'm vaping SM in a disposable atty and it's twice as good! I guess any SM is better than no SM! :blink: :)
 

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Just tried the W2V Pure Smoke... I think the base is the same as in Paris, or at least that I what I taste with the sweeter parts that Jerms mentioned. The tobacco isn't as in your face as it is with Paris but the flavor profile is very close to the same.

That's interesting that you should say that. I'm chatting with someone what the "blended with one of our top selling extracts" is via PM. I'll figure out how to copy and post the PM about my speculations in a sec. Warning, kind of long..

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That's what confuses me too is the wording W2V uses. They say "blended with one of our top selling extracts" , but maybe it would be more accurant to replace extracts with concentrates. It's definately not any of the Drew Estate premiums or Alcazar, which leaves Red Pirate. I just tasted RP and though the slight ashiness is similar, the flavor is different. Any Vapenstein seems unlikely, but I don't have them to compare. Paris is sold as a luxury cigarette NET and would explain the cig taste I'm getting, but doesn't it just seem so unlikely they would use a Vapenstein to mix?

So that leaves Morley and Analog Mild, which are not an extract, but maybe they decided to use the word "extract" in place of "concentrate" for the purpose of keeping their card close to their chest. I have neither of them so can't compare. I also don't have experience with TA to be able to recognise it. Like you said, my description does sound similar to how TA is often described. I can say this, it's eerily similar to a cigarette while having flavors that to me aren't recognisable as either a NET nor a lab made. It doesn't necessarily taste like real tobacco, but does feel like a cigarette, if that makes any sense. It leaves an ashy aftertaste and is a little foul and dirty tasting, about like a cig. I don't really want this flavor alone, but with the PURE it changes everything.

Another interesting note about this and Malty. Going on memory of Malty, I feel pretty confident saying PURE is the exact same flavor profile, but more of it. Since you responded to Malty the same way I did, I think you'll like "Smoke" a lot. While Malty quickly fades from light to nothing, this pulls a similar trick. The spun sugar is very strong first couple vapes, but settles down quickly to allow the tobacco to come through. The PURE taste never leaves, just settles. I'm guessing Malty would do the same thing if more flavoring was used.

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