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I am debating as to what to get for my next set-up (probably a mech and RBA), but I have to admit: I am not a tinkerer.

I want to not give up with trying to get the most out of RBAs, I just wish it was less of rebuiliding (not my favorite part). I guess I will have to learn to love it, or at the very least, learn to deal with it.

I think you're going to enjoy RDAs after getting used to them. You're an artist and I think your artist soul will get a lot of satisfaction from building great coils. It takes some time to find what you like best, but when you get there it adds to the vape. While I still use standard dripping atomizers, they can be hit or miss; some last more than a month and others last a few days. With RDAs, if I build a bad coil then I'm only out a few cents. It's particularly great for gunky NETs.
 

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I am debating as to what to get for my next set-up (probably a mech and RBA), but I have to admit: I am not a tinkerer.

I want to not give up with trying to get the most out of RBAs, I just wish it was less of rebuiliding (not my favorite part). I guess I will have to learn to love it, or at the very least, learn to deal with it.

Are you preparing for the apocalypse? 'Cause I think your first move should be getting a 50-gallon drum of Smooth Criminal.
 

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I want to talk about tea vapes. :)

Mr Scarf-ace just bought one of those fancy-schmancy temperarture-control teakettles, so that we can brew our oolongs and greens and whites at their proper water temperatures. I still have a strong coffee in the morning and a decaf before bed, but nearly all my beverages in between have been replaced by tea.

Here are some NETs that go really well with tea:
TastyVapor Tobacco (nice leafy-sweet undertone)
GEJ Patriot
Ahlusion Honey Cured (extra-yummy if you sweeten your tea with honey)
TPR Honey-Fig Tobacco (ditto)
GEJ Wild Cherry Point

Other non-baccos I'm liking are Ahlusion Zing! and Virgin Vapor Drunken Pirate Pudding, which I previously had little use for.

Strangely, my HHV NETs, which are my daily staples and work brilliantly with coffee, are not that tea-friendly. Don't know why.

What are some of La Cosa NETstra's favorite tea companions?
 

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Ekowool works extremely well with the micro coils. I'm surprised how many hits I can get with my tiny phoenix V4 with the ekowool and a micro coil.

And rebuilding is easy. I'm not a tool guy, I'm a writer/artist-y type and I can do it.

Hits? I guess I am surprised that you are not surprised by how many days you can get out of it. Forgive me as I am still learning. But anyway, NETNETNETNETNETNETNETNETNETNETNETNETNETNETNETNET :laugh:
 

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Having less of a problem with coils can be done with a large rotation. I have twenty EVOD's that I rotate along with several Pro tanks, twelve T3 minis and a bunch of RBA's. When I'm done with one I take it apart and drop it in a bowl of warm water I keep nearby. I can go through seven a day sometimes especially if I'm using Kanger T3 minis. At the end of the day I rinse everything and take them fully apart. I have a routine with pipe cleaners, cotton swabs and paper towels. After everything is clean and dry I burn off the coils and then re-assemble. Then I put them at the end of the rotation.

The smaller .4 mm ribbon Kanthal can be used with Ekowool in EVOD's and I don't generally taste any loss of flavor. Maybe because the wick and coil stay wet right up to dry burn and cleaning?

I do re-builds on good days when my hands don't shake but compared to regular Kanthal the ribbon is easier for me to use, go figure? One step that makes things easier is torching the wick before coiling. It stiffens the wick so it doesn't droop in the way after each turn. That helps get a nice even coil.

I'm really liking these JUK23's. They have a ceramic cup and there's enough room for two wicks wrapped around the cup. I almost hesitate to call them drippers because they take 10-12 drops at a time.

Now, if only Fastech would start selling Pro tank II Minis.
 

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Ekowool works extremely well with the micro coils. I'm surprised how many hits I can get with my tiny phoenix V4 with the ekowool and a micro coil.

And rebuilding is easy. I'm not a tool guy, I'm a writer/artist-y type and I can do it.

Johni - my experience mirrors yours in that nichrome tends to last a bit longer than kanthal but, i can taste the metal with nichrome and I can't with kanthal (same problem with ss mesh - i can taste that too which is why I stick to silica builds). I also really like microcoils as well. One of my big complaints is that the coils tend to go hot really quick in a standard build. I tend to go more for a cooler vape and it's taken a while to get a build pulled together that had the right gauge of wire and the right temperature. I also notice that when I use a microcoil, there is less gunk (I firmly believe that the gunk is caused partly by the heat required to vaporize - if you keep the resistance you like only lower the overall surface temperature, you get less heat and, as I've experienced, less gunk). I can typically go a week on a coil - sometimes more, sometimes less but, I rebuild on Sundays... or switch devices if im too lazy :).

jefsview - as for Ekowool - I do like it better than silica but, I like Twik even more - it's basically ekowool with a pure cotton core (rather than being hollow). I dont have much left and they are working to rebuild stock at the moment but, I've been pleased with it. I'll be getting more once they have it available. The nice thing about twik is you get the reliability of the ekowool with the wicking of cotton. Its really nice.

Also be sure to preburn your wire and boil your wick. it makes a significant difference in taste and reliability (for me anyway).


Mann - once you find a build you like, stick with it. There isnt anything "wrong" with any form of vaping whether in a Cisco or in a RDA or RBA or carto or... whatever :) I'll help as well if you'd like.
 

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What gauge do you use?

Twisted 32 gauge. I burn about a foot at a time and twist it on itself.

For those that don't know, it basically halves the resistance of the wire by twisting it. 32g runs at 1.2 ohms per inch so, by twisting it, it ends up being 0.6 ohms per inch (or close to it).

I use right at 2 inches per coil in a single coil setup. In a double coil, i use just below 2 inches non twisted (since a dual coil halves the overall resistance, it still keeps me about 1.2 ohms).

And yes - I could use 1 inch of 32g and have the same ohms but, this way, i can double my surface area and lower the temperature.

I also don't pop coils when I dry burn as often :)

edit - i will also twist 34 when i am out of 32 though, that is rare these days.
 

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For the musicians on this thread....

If you do any multi-track recording... record the instrument/voice dry so it can be mastered to the best sound during mix down. If you need some effects, put them into a monitor/headphone mix separate from the recording.

If you are wondering where the heck this rant is coming from... I had a musician friend pass away at the end of May. He has a ton of music he never mixed down on a digital 8+2 track recorder which I"m now having to do the master mix on. This will be for his friends and family to have something to remember him by...

Guitarists are pretty fond of flanges, chorus, delay and other effects and he recorded his tracks with them.... Effects color the sound a lot and there is little you can do to correct them in some cases.

PS... Sound engineers that haven't mixed in 20 some years... can be real rusty... :D

Ok... I'm done... now returning you to your locally broadcasted NET channel.
 

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I don't know from music but poorly sound-edited movies are one of my pet peeves. I remember watching The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo in the movie theatre, and not quite believing that the gusting wind and chirping birds were louder than the dialogue at some points.

Besides that, it was an awesome movie. But that REALLY bugged me.
 
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