Natural Tobaccos

[billherbst]

RY4. On first inhale I noticed the similar tobacco flavoring they use, so had to stop there, I was done, spent, slightly traumatized. I still need to give this an honest try, will try it first next time.

Jerms,

When I reviewed Revolution RY-4 for the RY4 Roundup thread, I was disturbed by a weird flavor note that I didn't like. I hadn't vaped any other Revolution tobaccos, so I couldn't be sure if that off-flavor was linked to the synthetic tobacco flavoring or some other flavoring element in the juice. (I also had a small sample of Red Rum---which I liked---but that's a straight dessert vape to my taste buds---I don't pick up any tobacco in it at all; I've since effectively cloned it in DIY as "Butter Rum Raspberry"...)

Thanks for clearing up the mystery with RevVapor's RY-4 by confirming that the odd flavor is coming from the arti-bacco. While I assume that your palate and mine are not dead center in the flavor bell curve (probably far from it), I really think RevolutionVapor needs to consider using a different synthetic tobacco base. The one they use now is distinctly unusual, and not in a good way.

On a different subject, I'm having a bang-up time with my home-brewed extractions. I've done six NETs so far---three cigarette tobaccos (Skydancer, Nat Sherman MCD, and American Spirit Organic cigs) and three pipe tobaccos (an aromatic, a non-aromatic, and an English blend)---plus three coffee/espresso extracts, and I've got another three pipe tobacco samples waiting in the wings to be brewed up. Home-brewed natural extracts are completely rocking my vaping world. I haven't tried any fruit extracts yet and don't know if I will, but man, oh man, tobacco and coffee are wonderful! My gosh, even without sophisticated equipment using only simple macerations with PG/VG, making extracts is easy, inexpensive, and so tasty! I hope research will eventually confirm that NETs are as harmless (compared to smoking tobacco) as we assume them to be. If we find out that they're not, I'm going to be hard-pressed to go back to only synthetic, lab-based flavorings.

 

[Mr.Mann]

I'm finally back online, everyone...if you've noticed me gone that is...

My computer fried out and I had to save up the cash to get a new one. I'm done with PC's - got a MacBook now. So far so good! Anyway, looks like I have a bit of reading to catch up on...need to get back into the loop.

Just thinking about you last night. Good to have ya back, bud.

 

[Mr.Mann]

Vendors can post and chit-chat in other threads. Just nothing to do with their business. So, Adam (since he was the example cited) could chat here, as long as he's not discussing HHV juices per se or dissing other vendors offerings. He could not however join us in the HHV Army subforum because it has to do with his business.

The rules kinda limit their movements and interactions, but it helps to keep things clean. The hard part is getting users to understand that they cannot ask them direct questions that put them on the spot and elicits a response, the current DF discussion for example.

That's what I thought. I imagine it's just better and less tempting to avoid even the trivial posts every now and again. I see some vendors that troll for certain catch phrases that have to do with their business (you can see their names pop up in the "likes"), but I think they are a bit playing with fire. I can see how it would be hard to not venture out to see what others are saying.

 

[Vapo Marx]

Vapemail!

On a different subject, I'm having a bang-up time with my home-brewed extractions. I've done six NETs so far---three cigarette tobaccos (Skydancer, Nat Sherman MCD, and American Spirit Organic cigs)...

Mmmmm, MCD! <drools>

I hope research will eventually confirm that NETs are as harmless (compared to smoking tobacco) as we assume them to be. If we find out that they're not, I'm going to be hard-pressed to go back to only synthetic, lab-based flavorings.

Funny, I was thinking the exact same thing yesterday. I've fallen in love with NETs.

 

[Jerms]

I'm finally back online, everyone...if you've noticed me gone that is...

My computer fried out and I had to save up the cash to get a new one. I'm done with PC's - got a MacBook now. So far so good! Anyway, looks like I have a bit of reading to catch up on...need to get back into the loop.

Hey Dire, good to see you back. All I have for a computer is a laptop, a very old laptop, that I haven't used for internet in ages. Strictly smart phone for internetting these days, though the library is across the street for the rare site that doesn't play well with my phone (FastTech and EmpireMods orders need to be placed there). The nice thing about doing the forum on my phone, easy to quickly read my unread threads on the go. And with my side-slide out keyboard, I've become the fastest thumbs in Cass County.

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[Jerms]

Jerms,

When I reviewed Revolution RY-4 for the RY4 Roundup thread, I was disturbed by a weird flavor note that I didn't like. I hadn't vaped any other Revolution tobaccos, so I couldn't be sure if that off-flavor was linked to the synthetic tobacco flavoring or some other flavoring element in the juice. (I also had a small sample of Red Rum---which I liked---but that's a straight dessert vape to my taste buds---I don't pick up any tobacco in it at all; I've since effectively cloned it in DIY as "Butter Rum Raspberry"...)

Thanks for clearing up the mystery with RevVapor's RY-4 by confirming that the odd flavor is coming from the arti-bacco. While I assume that your palate and mine are not dead center in the flavor bell curve (probably far from it), I really think RevolutionVapor needs to consider using a different synthetic tobacco base. The one they use now is distinctly unusual, and not in a good way.

On a different subject, I'm having a bang-up time with my home-brewed extractions. I've done six NETs so far---three cigarette tobaccos (Skydancer, Nat Sherman MCD, and American Spirit Organic cigs) and three pipe tobaccos (an aromatic, a non-aromatic, and an English blend)---plus three coffee/espresso extracts, and I've got another three pipe tobacco samples waiting in the wings to be brewed up. Home-brewed natural extracts are completely rocking my vaping world. I haven't tried any fruit extracts yet and don't know if I will, but man, oh man, tobacco and coffee are wonderful! My gosh, even without sophisticated equipment using only simple macerations with PG/VG, making extracts is easy, inexpensive, and so tasty! I hope research will eventually confirm that NETs are as harmless (compared to smoking tobacco) as we assume them to be. If we find out that they're not, I'm going to be hard-pressed to go back to only synthetic, lab-based flavorings.

Bill, okay, decided to load up some more of Rev's RY4... yep, it's definately the tobacco flavoring providing the weird. Weird can be good (it often is for me) but I don't think this would appeal to most vapers. At least the rough notes aren't nearly as strong as in Turkish Blend or Carolina Blend (the Turkish.. shudder). The tobacco actually feels fairly blended with the caramel and vanilla.. and it worked OK for a couple pulls, but by the third the tobacco (especially on the exhale, when nauseating notes surface).. OK no more tasting trying to describe it lol, it's just bad.

The Turkish and Carolina amplify that tobacco taste exponentially, and they use a lot of flavoring. My my MFTom.. really? Really?? Lol, I'm teasing as some flavors I like repulse others (BJ's recent Tampa experience, Bronze and fresh Vita,) but otherwise we seem to share similar tastes so I am a little surprised you like these. Red Rum I totally get, nice dessert TINO, thankfully none of the tobacco present.

Red Rum I'm keeping, but the rest of Rev are moving on. MFT, would you like them back? Do you have someone else who may click with these that I can send them to?

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[y cherry y]

Funny, I was thinking the exact same thing yesterday. I've fallen in love with NETs.

Yeah, I really need the natural base. If NETs were to disappear, I'd be a NETea guy. Teas have a depth of flavor and a substantial mouthfeel much like tobaccos. But less rounded.

Artificial flavors just don't work well for me.

 

[Jerms]

Vapemail!

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Mmmmm, MCD! <drools>



Funny, I was thinking the exact same thing yesterday. I've fallen in love with NETs.

So Vapo.. want to trade some Organic for some.. ummmmm.. unique artis?

(I'm kidding of course, already plan on ordering some Organic myself soon)

Bill, forgot to mention; I've been following your luck with instant coffee extractions on Scarfy's thread. Exciting stuff! Tobacco and coffee extractions.. maybe I could get by if doomsday hits and vendors can't sell. I WOULD be trying some fruit extractions though, as the bottled arti-fruit flavorings don't hit the right spot for me.

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[Vapo Marx]

So Vapo.. want to trade some Organic for some.. ummmmm.. unique artis?

(I'm kidding of course, already plan on ordering some Organic myself soon)

I sampled this before but I'd almost forgotten how good it is. I don't know if you guys would agree but to me, it tastes almost like a Vita Bella Lite. It's a smooth, pleasant vape I could probably enjoy all day.

 

[Bronze]

That's what I thought. I imagine it's just better and less tempting to avoid even the trivial posts every now and again. I see some vendors that troll for certain catch phrases that have to do with their business (you can see their names pop up in the "likes"), but I think they are a bit playing with fire. I can see how it would be hard to not venture out to see what others are saying.

I hammered BlueMiss once a long time ago and the owner PM'd me to ream me out.

 

[Vapo Marx]

Yeah, I really need the natural base. If NETs were to disappear, I'd be a NETea guy. Teas have a depth of flavor and a substantial mouthfeel much like tobaccos. But less rounded.

Artificial flavors just don't work well for me.

Mmmmm, I wonder how a PG Tips extraction would taste. That's my go-to tea.

 

[Bronze]

I have a large stash of Dragon's Fire I keep in the fridge (hedging back in May that the new batch would fail). Still have a bunch. But I just bought a new bottle of 6mg that I was going to use to cut my nic levels for the Kayfun. Got the new DF 8 days ago. Just mixed it 50/50 with my stash juice and have been vaping it all night. No difference. Tastes like DF. Beginning to think MM got a dud bottle.

 

[Mr.Mann]

I hammered BlueMiss once a long time ago and the owner PM'd me to ream me out.

Word?! That's out-of-bounds for them to initiate contact like that.

 

[Jerms]

Mmmmm, I wonder how a PG Tips extraction would taste. That's my go-to tea.

I dig that tea too.

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[Mr.Mann]

I have a large stash of Dragon's Fire I keep in the fridge (hedging back in May that the new batch would fail). Still have a bunch. But I just bought a new bottle of 6mg that I was going to use to cut my nic levels for the Kayfun. Got the new DF 8 days ago. Just mixed it 50/50 with my stash juice and have been vaping it all night. No difference. Tastes like DF. Beginning to think MM got a dud bottle.

Or, I was expecting something has since been gone. Early June 2012 was a long time ago.

 

[Vapo Marx]

I dig that tea too.

I buy a case of it every year... Still grateful to an English friend who turned me on to it a long time ago.

 

[Jerms]

I buy a case of it every year... Still grateful to an English friend who turned me on to it a long time ago.

The English know their tea, as do Asian countries. America.. not so much; though the south knows a good sweet tea.

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[Bronze]

I told him as such. I can appreciate someone trying to protect their image, but at the same time if I thought their juice was crap then I have to call it as I see it. He'll just need to deal with it.

I suspect he was chasing lots of people bad mouthing his juice.

 

[Jerms]

I told him as such. I can appreciate someone trying to protect their image, but at the same time if I thought their juice was crap then I have to call it as I see it. He'll just need to deal with it.

I suspect he was chasing lots of people bad mouthing his juice.

Maybe a better use of his time would be to try to make a good juice..

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[Bronze]

Or, I was expecting something has since been gone. Early June 2012 is a long time ago.

Well, the appearance of your bottle makes me suspect. But then photos on ECF can be deceiving. But when BJ said he about vomited then it brought back an experience when I was sent some dud juice. Tasted like dumpster scrapings and I thought I was gonna puke.

When I first vaped Dragon's Fire (Aug/Sep 2012), I thought it was very similar to Gandy 2 and Pirate's Booty but a little more dessert-like. Didn't have it for a long time because I stuck with Gandy 2 and PB. But when those went south, I went back to DF and the dessert-like note was gone. It wasn't a big difference but noticeable to my fine-tuned palate for those three juices that I vaped extensively. They were all so very, very close that I'm convinced they were the same juice.