I may be the only one that doesn't like Black Cav.
Got it as a sample in my N-E-T order..and I just can't get used to it.Natural Tobaccos
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I may be the only one that doesn't like Black Cav.
Got it as a sample in my N-E-T order..and I just can't get used to it.
Ahhh, nature of the beast rather than user error for eating up batteries I see. That's too bad. At home I use usually use 28ga 1 ohm coils for 15+ watts on my mechs and my VAMO for other variable power needs. The Kick I was mainly going to use to get MORE battery time with my mechs on the go. I figured with a 1.8 ohm Evod coil I could run the batts down to 3.3 volts while keeping about 9 watts. However, without the Kick I get around 9 watts for a longer time until I change the batt at about 3.8 volts. Live and learn; I may find some other uses for it.
I'm holding out hope that my mechs with less voltage drop will get more battery time with the Kick as it wouldn't need to "boost" as much leading to less drainage? Will see.
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That's quite an endorsement. Let him know in his forum.
I was going to grab all of the NET-Infused flavors, plus more Organic #1 (I love this stuff -- smoky but sweet, balanced to perfection). I'll see about getting in a tiny, wee bottle of Analog.
But I was originally asking about your Darth Vapers flavors
The DV flavors Vanilla tobacco, Bluebacco, 444, RY4, RY5 and Ghost Peach are really good for being so fresh. I'm holding off on vaping anymore of them for at least a week, maybe 2.
And yes, I posted that in GeJ's forum.
jefsview,
Well that is one of the nicest flame jobs I have ever had, thank you.
I read the posts in the link you provided. Most seem to be more subjective than absolute. There are a couple of links to some studies that I will read tonight and see if they can take the edge off of my concerns.
OK - I will now let this thread go back to the original theme without further distractions from my paranoia.
PS - I am somewhat paranoid about trying new things but I am not all that disappointed with the Tabaco flavors I have tried. Also every once in awhile I mix a couple and come up with some really good Tabaco flavors. The only trouble is I am not organized enough to write down what I did ergo I never seem to be able to duplicate my successes. Ugh!
Feel free to discuss those concerns in this thread. It's a large part of the syllabus in this thread. It does have to do with NETs, after all.
Mr.Mann,
One of the best "rants" I have read in a long time.
It just dawned on me what you meant by "GC/MS". I used to maintain both Gas Chromatographs and Mass Spectrometers back when I worked for the Dept. of Defense (Nuclear Div.). In those days they were rare and expensive to the max. Now "Good Ones" are relatively inexpensive and lots of certified testing laboratories have them.
Which prompts the question why Juice Stores don't have test done on their products and for sure post the info on their WEB sites. I know for myself it would be a big selling point especially if they posted the test certificates (with a tech explanation for us folks that didn't do well in chemistry 101). I would think it would go over a lot better than a picture of folks in a clean room and a statement like "Trust me it good stuff".
To everyone else that welcomed me to this thread - Thank You. I was a little concerned about asking something the pros might consider DUMB.
One of the best "rants" I have read in a long time.
It just dawned on me what you meant by "GC/MS". I used to maintain both Gas Chromatographs and Mass Spectrometers back when I worked for the Dept. of Defense (Nuclear Div.). In those days they were rare and expensive to the max. Now "Good Ones" are relatively inexpensive and lots of certified testing laboratories have them.
Which prompts the question why Juice Stores don't have test done on their products and for sure post the info on their WEB sites. I know for myself it would be a big selling point especially if they posted the test certificates (with a tech explanation for us folks that didn't do well in chemistry 101). I would think it would go over a lot better than a picture of folks in a clean room and a statement like "Trust me it good stuff".
To everyone else that welcomed me to this thread - Thank You. I was a little concerned about asking something the pros might consider DUMB.
Thanks. You asked a pertinent question. I know in the case of Ahlusion, they test for others, but since they can and do test their own liquids, they feel that posting those results aren't quite as valid since they're not tested from an independent lab. So they post that they do test, but not the results. That said, Ahlusion among only a handful of other eliquid vendors (don't know who the others are, but I imagine there are some) are also ISO 9001: 2008 certified. As far as "standards" go, you'll likely not find another vendor that has its house in order more than they do. Though I understand why Ahlsuion doesn't post their results, I agree with you that the test results, not just the fact that the test has taken place, would be a HUGE selling point.
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While this thread is full of great info, and many intelligent and experiended vapers post here; it's mostly a group of people who have vaped a lot of NETs and really enjoy them. Less pros than experienced vapers of a niche genre of juice. Also, a pretty helpful group for the NET-curious. I've heard it said that it can be intimidating for new people to post in this thread, but no reason for that. As long as someone isn't being a jerk; the welcoming arms are open.
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The Kick doesn't let you use as much of the battery charge as running a mech manually. This is both good and bad. The bad is, obviously, you get generally shorter battery life. The good is that you don't run down your battery to the end of the charge, which allows you to use it for more cycles.
I change my batts on my mechs when I can notice the drop in power, usually around 3.8 or 3.9 volts. What surprised me about mechs is how much power is available from 4.2 down to only 3.9 with a good battery when no booster circuit is involved like with my VAMO. I'm hoping the 4 Samsung INR-20R that I ordered from FT have a long run time in that range.
Off to work, have a good day NETters.
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I may be the only one that doesn't like Black Cav.
You're not the only one. To me it's just blah.
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The other good part is that you get an identical hit every time. Because, unlike the chips in the Vamo, Zmax, and the clone Kicks, the Evolv one makes changes in voltage output constantly, as it detects changes in resistance on the atty. So as your coil gunks and the resistance changes, the chip sends more or less voltage to maintain the power setting.
The Kick2 goes to 15 watts, and the DNA20 to 20. I haven't tried a Kick2, but I have a Cyborg with the DNA20 chip, and the battery life is very comparable to the Provari.
This has been a disappointing vaping weekend for me. I pulled out my steeping NETs from the steep box, all excited to try them. My impressions were not great, but in fairness, I am not an experienced NET vaper, and new to vaping overall @ 6 months now. First off, the W2V Louisville and London were very similar to me- strong aka throaty, ashy, and full-bodied. This is not a bad thing, but it definitely made my eyes bug a little on the first vape. I will revisit them in a few days. GeJ was disappointing - House Blend, 555, and Wrangler Light were just okay, kind of muted to me. Organic #1 is the best of the 4, and one I will probably re-order. And Ahlusion's Jungle Juice felt muted with the banana, so I think it's just been an off weekend for me. All of these NETs have been steeping at least 1 month.
I'm kind of concerned at this point, I like DK-TAB better than most of the NETs I have tried
I'm kind of concerned at this point, I like DK-TAB better than most of the NETs I have tried
Once again, being at work, I missed a whole lot of conversation, but I'm glad it was informative and easy to digest
And yes, H1N1 is available again... Seems Nicoticket changed their whole line-up to keep the popular flavors in circulation. Sometimes with small businesses you have to make that sort of decision and I hope it works out for them.
From recent conversation, it looks like the next NETty Awards will have some surprising results
And yes, H1N1 is available again... Seems Nicoticket changed their whole line-up to keep the popular flavors in circulation. Sometimes with small businesses you have to make that sort of decision and I hope it works out for them.
From recent conversation, it looks like the next NETty Awards will have some surprising results
This has been a disappointing vaping weekend for me. I pulled out my steeping NETs from the steep box, all excited to try them. My impressions were not great, but in fairness, I am not an experienced NET vaper, and new to vaping overall @ 6 months now. First off, the W2V Louisville and London were very similar to me- strong aka throaty, ashy, and full-bodied. This is not a bad thing, but it definitely made my eyes bug a little on the first vape. I will revisit them in a few days. GeJ was disappointing - House Blend, 555, and Wrangler Light were just okay, kind of muted to me. Organic #1 is the best of the 4, and one I will probably re-order. And Ahlusion's Jungle Juice felt muted with the banana, so I think it's just been an off weekend for me. All of these NETs have been steeping at least 1 month.
I'm kind of concerned at this point, I like DK-TAB better than most of the NETs I have tried
Disappointing indeed. That why with NETs, like any other juice, best to sample with small bottles. With W2V, I personally found more to like in their Premium Tobacco line instead of the Signature. The signature line juices are just so damn gunky, but the premiums are a little cleaner (except for Red Pirate). I did the 10 3ml sampler option and doubled up on them. CI Cigar and Blond I loved, Alcazar and Coffee-Infused Cigar I found OK, and Red Pirate I didn't care for. I also really like their Pure "Smoke".
Have you had GeJ's 2 big ones, Patriot and Vita Bella, yet? If not, be sure to try them before giving up on GeJ. Those arti-baccos you got from their premium line I don't think I've heard anybody on this thread praise. Best to stick to the House Brewed line, and the Lab Made line is good for people who like Halo.
Keep plugging away! I'm sure you'll eventually find the ones that WOW you.
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This has been a disappointing vaping weekend for me. I pulled out my steeping NETs from the steep box, all excited to try them. My impressions were not great, but in fairness, I am not an experienced NET vaper, and new to vaping overall @ 6 months now. First off, the W2V Louisville and London were very similar to me- strong aka throaty, ashy, and full-bodied. This is not a bad thing, but it definitely made my eyes bug a little on the first vape. I will revisit them in a few days. GeJ was disappointing - House Blend, 555, and Wrangler Light were just okay, kind of muted to me. Organic #1 is the best of the 4, and one I will probably re-order. And Ahlusion's Jungle Juice felt muted with the banana, so I think it's just been an off weekend for me. All of these NETs have been steeping at least 1 month.
I'm kind of concerned at this point, I like DK-TAB better than most of the NETs I have tried
FP, do not worry. Also, 555 and HB from GeJ are synthetics. I hope you have better luck in the future, but to be honest, your issues appear to be hardware related. Tales of "muted" and "ashy," in regards to these NETs, to me, appear to be hardware. This is why, though it was never a "rule" here, we generally consider it appropriate to speak to hardware used. In the case of, ahem, some of us, it's no need to mention it because it never changes. LOL. Same watts, voltage, atty, mod--for all liquids, that sweet spot, my sweet spot, exists as a mainstay. YSSMV (Your sweet spot may vary)
Hey all!
Happy birthday Eleanor!
Just got in from Sydney. Vaping into the hood of my jacket while on the bus.
South Pacific was awesome, if I''m going to be humming these songs for the next week then so are y'all.
There is nothing like a DAAAAAAME! Nothing in the WOOOOOORLD!
Weekend was also the occasion for not one but THREE epic Chinese food pig-outs. Two of them at one restaurant on consecutive days. Met with AnthonyB for a little catching up. Always nice.
Also picked up the subject of my next experiment: a Macanudo Maduro Duke of Devon. Little one, under $20 bucks. Might smoke a bit of it before unceremoniously drowning it.
Happy birthday Eleanor!
Just got in from Sydney. Vaping into the hood of my jacket while on the bus.
South Pacific was awesome, if I''m going to be humming these songs for the next week then so are y'all. There is nothing like a DAAAAAAME! Nothing in the WOOOOOORLD!
Weekend was also the occasion for not one but THREE epic Chinese food pig-outs. Two of them at one restaurant on consecutive days. Met with AnthonyB for a little catching up. Always nice.
Also picked up the subject of my next experiment: a Macanudo Maduro Duke of Devon. Little one, under $20 bucks. Might smoke a bit of it before unceremoniously drowning it.
FP, do not worry. Also, 555 and HB from GeJ are synthetics. I hope you have better luck in the future, but to be honest, your issues appear to be hardware related. Tales of "muted" and "ashy," in regards to these NETs, to me, appear to be hardware. This is why, though it was never a "rule" here, we generally consider it appropriate to speak to hardware used. In the case of, ahem, some of us, it's no need to mention it because it never changes. LOL. Same watts, voltage, atty, mod--for all liquids, that sweet spot, my sweet spot, exists as a mainstay. YSSMV (Your sweet spot may vary)
I dripped all of them with approximately week old attys after cleaning them with atty refresher on a Rider Robust. I will try again at a different v/w and see if that helps. I think it was just my taste buds not cooperating this weekend.
Yes, but disposable attys TRULY become disposable after little to no time with w2v. That's why I had to retire my w2v. Then again, slumps (I believe) happen to us all at some point.
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