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Todays brief tasting notes..

BWB RY4: only vaped this for several minutes. Very ODD note to it; interesting, not what I expected. My guess is I'm really going to like this, very unique.

N-E-T Chris' Blend: After the very ODD flavor note of the last juice, what yesterday was an odd flavor to me here is comparable quite comfy. Deep, bassy, flavorful; good feeling this one will grow on me.

N-E-T BA ManVan: Didn't wow me as it did first time I tried, but still quite good. The Virginia and Burley pairs well with the mango and vanilla. Overall light but enjoyable today.

N-E-T Big Spirit: I like this, more than when first tried. Nondestracting, pleasant, cigarette flavor. Somewhat light flavor.

DIY blend from MFTom with arti-bacco, blackberry, and TA: Very good except... not a fan of the blackberry flavoring used. Sorry Tom! The berry has just an odd, fake taste. I only vaped a few drops so we'll see if it plays out better.

Did some Frankenjuicing last night. Have several bottles of 6mg nic Ahlusion, good for tasting but nic is too low for regular vaping. So with Deal Maker (Ahl's chocolate tobacco) I mixed with a really good chocolate vape I have; and Peach River Tree I mixed with a Pineapple free-be that is candy instead of fruit. The resulting 12mg vapes are both quite enjoyable, but very far from tobacco.

Next up, arti-bacco from Hurrican Vapor called Storm juice. Smells better than when I got it, but my hopes are low that it'll be much of a vape.

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Ok...

Dragon's Fire - This stuff is nasty. There, I said it. I had to puff it analog style to try to pull out the individual flavor components because honestly, it is a muddled mess IMHO. The tobacco base, while hidden, is recognizable to me and not terribly pleasant. The more I drew on this, it seemed like they used a watered down RY4ish base to build a muddled flavor upon. Now going back and reading how they have "evolved" their juices that makes a LOT of sense to me. I think they got a decent (to their tastes) but lacking RY4 and decided to frankenjuice upon it. Tobacco base, weak RY4 components, something funky I will not waste my time trying to figure because this stuff is making me sick, and something sweet. Blech. The grossest thing to my taste here is the tobacco. it is barely recognizable but I recognize for one reason only...it tastes a creepily high degree similar to a juice I tried last night that was even more nasty...VS Tampa.

VS Tampa - I was actually excited to try this. The almost crystal clear liquid scared me, but whatevs. I first became aware of it through Vapenstein, but I dove head first from there into NET's and skipped it. I have sense read many reviews. I am not opposed to artibaccos or what have you, and I figured this would be a nice vape. Man was I wrong. This stuff IMHO is foul. I won;t even breakdown the flavor. I will say this, I wonder if this is just a vaping time capsule. I don't know myself, but I am guessing this came out before NET's were on the market or at least known and popular. If this was ALL the tobacco out there I could see it working on that analog craving. It would also drive me to fruits, so there you go, but I could see this working as an alternate to Dekang. At this stage of the game though it was just too artificial and funky and nasty. It made me sick. I will toss it and the sample of Dover I have because i wouldn't wish these on my worst vapenemy.

Smooth Criminal - The Axe Body Lung Spray. It is almost red in color at this stage of the steep. Fitting really, for the "Mike the Situation" of NET's. Ok, I am not going to lie, this stuff is tasty. I get it being an ADV for many people. I get it being an essential vape for people who mostly go straight, non-flavored NET's like Louisville or BGB. I GET this juice. I may even want to order some. And as I vaped it up...and I can;t believe I have never seen this said about this juice before...it dawns on me. That ain't chocolate dudes, that is cola. I wish I had time to dig up Shatner's take on Smooth Criminal, because I am telling you this right now with 100% surety: this stuff is NET Boba's Bounty. It is smoother, fuller, more gently crafted, more mature (for a shirtless hipster) but it is absolutely Boba's NET.

EDIT: I now get the "Smooth Criminal" name. It is a smooth and mature take on Boba's with an NET. I still don't like the name, but I get it and it works. That photo has got to go though it does likely appeal to the demographic that would love this juice. That said, i am not sure i want to let them in the door. They already all but shutdown one vendor, andt is hard enough to get an order through to Wlad these days.

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Ok...

Dragon's Fire - This stuff is nasty. There, I said it. I had to puff it analog style to try to pull out the individual flavor components because honestly, it is a muddled mess IMHO. The tobacco base, while hidden, is recognizable to me and not terribly pleasant. The more I drew on this, it seemed like they used a watered down RY4ish base to build a muddled flavor upon. Now going back and reading how they have "evolved" their juices that makes a LOT of sense to me. I think they got a decent (to their tastes) but lacking RY4 and decided to frankenjuice upon it. Tobacco base, weak RY4 components, something funky I will not waste my time trying to figure because this stuff is making me sick, and something sweet. Blech. The grossest thing to my taste here is the tobacco. it is barely recognizable but I recognize for one reason only...it tastes a creepily high degree similar to a juice I tried last night that was even more nasty...VS Tampa.

The man simply has no idea what a great juice is. :D
 

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The man simply has no idea what a great juice is. :D

LOL! I can't even take that seriously...and I respect you too much to go nuclear leading into a weekend.

Sorry dude, I had high hopes. The stuff was gross. Really foul stuff.

I really think in the interest of fairness and accuracy I should send you the rest of this sample Mann and I vaped. Then you can tell us how it stacks up to your batch of Dragon's Fire. Shoot, maybe it tastes totally different and we are both right? PM me your address.
 
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Ok...

Dragon's Fire - This stuff is nasty. There, I said it. I had to puff it analog style to try to pull out the individual flavor components because honestly, it is a muddled mess IMHO. The tobacco base, while hidden, is recognizable to me and not terribly pleasant. The more I drew on this, it seemed like they used a watered down RY4ish base to build a muddled flavor upon. Now going back and reading how they have "evolved" their juices that makes a LOT of sense to me. I think they got a decent (to their tastes) but lacking RY4 and decided to frankenjuice upon it. Tobacco base, weak RY4 components, something funky I will not waste my time trying to figure because this stuff is making me sick, and something sweet. Blech. The grossest thing to my taste here is the tobacco. it is barely recognizable but I recognize for one reason only...it tastes a creepily high degree similar to a juice I tried last night that was even more nasty...VS Tampa.

VS Tampa - I was actually excited to try this. The almost crystal clear liquid scared me, but whatevs. I first became aware of it through Vapenstein, but I dove head first from there into NET's and skipped it. I have sense read many reviews. I am not opposed to artibaccos or what have you, and I figured this would be a nice vape. Man was I wrong. This stuff IMHO is foul. I won;t even breakdown the flavor. I will say this, I wonder if this is just a vaping time capsule. I don't know myself, but I am guessing this came out before NET's were on the market or at least known and popular. If this was ALL the tobacco out there I could see it working on that analog craving. It would also drive me to fruits, so there you go, but I could see this working as an alternate to Dekang. At this stage of the game though it was just too artificial and funky and nasty. It made me sick. I will toss it and the sample of Dover I have because i wouldn't wish these on my worst vapenemy.

Smooth Criminal - The Axe Body Lung Spray. It is almost red in color at this stage of the steep. Fitting really, for the "Mike the Situation" of NET's. Ok, I am not going to lie, this stuff is tasty. I get it being an ADV for many people. I get it being an essential vape for people who mostly go straight, non-flavored NET's like Louisville or BGB. I GET this juice. I may even want to order some. And as I vaped it up...and I can;t believe I have never seen this said about this juice before...it dawns on me. That ain't chocolate dudes, that is cola. I wish I had time to dig up Shatner's take on Smooth Criminal, because I am telling you this right now with 100% surety: this stuff is NET Boba's Bounty. It is smoother, fuller, more gently crafted, more mature (for a shirtless hipster) but it is absolutely Boba's NET.

EDIT: I now get the "Smooth Criminal" name. It is a smooth and mature take on Boba's with an NET. I still don't like the name, but I get it and it works. That photo has got to go though it does likely appeal to the demographic that would love this juice. That said, i am not sure i want to let them in the door. They already all but shutdown one vendor, andt is hard enough to get an order through to Wlad these days.

CH-CH-CHIMONE!

There's "no bounty" on that one. ;)
 

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LOL! I can't even take that seriously...and I respect you too much to go nuclear leading into a weekend.

Sorry dude, I had high hopes. The stuff was gross. Really foul stuff.

I really think in the interest of fairness and accuracy I should send you the rest of this sample Mann and I vaped. Then you can tell us how it stacks up to your batch of Dragon's Fire. Shoot, maybe it tastes totally different and we are both right? PM me your address.

Good call, B. Juicy.
 

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There's "no bounty" on that one. ;)

I ain't gonna lie, this is a damn tasty juice and I am already lamenting only having this one tank. I am chain vaping the bejeebus out of this stuff. Fitting that Axe Lung Spray is a BB take. Just so fitting. It works and I have been blind to Wlad's genuis from top to bottom on this issue. I still hate that photo...but everything else (including said photo) works.

I am a stubborn PIA, verbose, opinionated, and have a good deal of ego...but I am the first to admit when I am wrong.
 

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Ha! Interesting takes on those BJ, and fun to read. I didn't get any cola from Smooth Crim, but I also never got any from Bobas. I actually enjoyed Tampa, but wouldn't reorder. Well.. maybe, I dug it's old school lab-bacco vibe, and done quite well as that, but I have a feeling I'll like some of their other artis more. Don't throw Dover before trying! It's very different than Tampa, totally different style.

The arti I'm vaping from Hurricane, Sunshine Cured Tobacco, I'm finding quite interesting. I've had a similar arti before but can't place it. It's a smooth, fuzzy mid-range flavor, and I like it. It's a full bodied flavor that gets that way not from a chord of notes or round bass notes, but just a singular mid-range note with a very fuzzy, buzzy, distortion. The aftertaste lingers for a crazy long time, the flavor just sticks in the mouth. If someone doesn't like this they'll want mouthwash near to clear it.

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Juicy, I tried to warn you buddy! I just tried to say it in a way that didn't raise too many hackles.


Juicy, I'll probably catch hell for this but I don't think there are many NETizens who really dig authentic tasting juices like Louisville and London as well as HHVs juices. They're just from opposite ends of the NET spectrum. I don't like sweet, fruity tastes that my palette can't identify so HHV just doesn't do much for me. Not bad juice, just not for me and I'd bet not for you.
 

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LOL! I can't even take that seriously...and I respect you too much to go nuclear leading into a weekend.

Sorry dude, I had high hopes. The stuff was gross. Really foul stuff.

I really think in the interest of fairness and accuracy I should send you the rest of this sample Mann and I vaped. Then you can tell us how it stacks up to your batch of Dragon's Fire. Shoot, maybe it tastes totally different and we are both right? PM me your address.

PM on its way. Two people can't be wrong (you and MM). I'm officially concerned. :)

Dragon's Fire is my vaping life blood. I had his latest batch turnover...so I thought. That was in May. He couldn't have run out that fast.
 

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PM on its way. Two people can't be wrong (you and MM). I'm officially concerned. :)

Dragon's Fire is my vaping life blood. I had his latest batch turnover...so I thought. That was in May. He couldn't have run out that fast.

B, I think that DF is just not done cooking yet. It just recently because similar to what I remember, but it's still missing something. Maybe body?
 

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PM on its way. Two people can't be wrong (you and MM). I'm officially concerned. :)

Dragon's Fire is my vaping life blood. I had his latest batch turnover...so I thought. That was in May. He couldn't have run out that fast.
Definitely send that bottle on down to Bronze! If there is something wrong with the juice he'd be the guy to figure it out.

In the meantime, I'm working on a little experiment to clean up some gunky home brewed baccy.
 

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B, I think that DF is just not done cooking yet. It just recently because similar to what I remember, but it's still missing something. Maybe body?

MM, I have your package in my out basket with your name on it. Just got to get it in the mail. I have some real DF in it. BJ is sending me some of your swill. Let's compare after we have a chance.

I found out BJs stuff came from your stock. Holding out hope this has been isolated to your bottle only.
 

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Juicy, I tried to warn you buddy! I just tried to say it in a way that didn't raise too many hackles.

I dig 'em all. It really just depends on what I am in the mood for. But, if I could easily vape Paris and Louisville without issues, man, forget about it!

I know that, unfortunately, some people tried some of the hard(er) core juices out of remedial gear, later changed gear that could accommodate, but had already formed opinions written in since-dried cement.
 

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I dig 'em all. It really just depends on what I am in the mood for. But, if I could easily vape Paris and Louisville without issues, man, forget about it!

I know that, unfortunately, some people tried some of the hard(er) core juices out of remedial gear, later changed gear that could accommodate, but had already formed opinions written in since-dried cement.

I have to admit, when I got better gear, I had to revisit a few juices that I wasn't sure about before. With my current setups, gunkiness has become way less of a factor as rebuilding is just second nature now. When a juice tastes wonky these days, it's either a bad juice or my taste buds took the day off again. I just start the day off with an old fave or two so I know the difference!
 
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It should be noted that over the past week I did leave this liquid out (in PET as it's more transparent) in front of a window on my desk (at least during the light hours of the day). I've done that now for about a week and a half and it has helped a lot. I don't like having to do that, and I generally wouldn't, but I was desperate to see if a change would occur. A change did happen from that pink water. But, it's still not ready.

My issue, my biggest issue, was that DF didn't require that kind of work before. I know I keep harping on "last year," but if the website hasn't changed its description, there's no reason to think the liquid should be different from last year.

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Picture taken on gridded paper to show level of transparency. It's dark in my room right now (only lit by a small lamp) so this picture is a tad darker than it is in reality, but it's close enough to show how much it has changed.
 

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I have to admit, when I got better gear, I had to revisit a few juices that I wasn't sure about before. With my current setups, gunkiness has become way less of a factor as rebuilding is just second nature now. When a juice tastes wonky these days, it's either a bad juice or my taste buds took the day off again. I just start the day off with an old fave or two so I know the difference!

Yeah, I remember someone trying Paris (or something like that) in a carto. Now, I am not saying that it can't work out of a carto, but some outfits need to be tried on with different shoes.
 
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