Natural Tobaccos

[Mr.Mann]

I haven't had even one hit off a cigarette in right at 14 months now and I can't even remember the last time I "craved" one. I really don't even remember what they tasted like anymore. Every once in while I get curious and think I'd like to try one just to see how bad they are, but then I figure I could probably just go kiss my dog square in his .... and get the same effect.

Don't dis your dog like that.

 

[Bronze]

well now, mookie, you have a ghostly vapor figure, a smoking chimp, and george washington telling you how it is. Now who do you believe?

lmao!!!!!!!

 

[gthompson]

Yeah, that's right up there for me too. Sometimes I split a freaking side. I'll wake up at 5AM and turn it on for two hours and fade in and out and find it a good way to start my day by laughing. My wife thinks that show is the lowest form of life. But I love it along with the old MASH series and (don't laugh), Andy Griffith.

Dude, MASH and Andy are both the bomb. I watched the MASH reunion show tonight.

 

[Bronze]

I haven't had even one hit off a cigarette in right at 14 months now and I can't even remember the last time I "craved" one. I really don't even remember what they tasted like anymore. Every once in while I get curious and think I'd like to try one just to see how bad they are, but then I figure I could probably just go kiss my dog square in his .... and get the same effect.

Yep, pretty close.

 

[gthompson]

Mr.Mann does the best reviews ever. Now I gotta try some Dark Horse. I want to see the colors too!

 

[TBinAZ]

I know, right? Him and luce have got that 'poetic' thing going on. I can't even get anywhere near that level.

Edit: Oh, and Tez too. Where has Tez been lately?

Mr.Mann does the best reviews ever. Now I gotta try some Dark Horse. I want to see the colors too!

 

[Bronze]

Mr.Mann does the best reviews ever. Now I gotta try some Dark Horse. I want to see the colors too!

He uses artist's language but I've been able to sort through it and get a good idea if I would be interested in the flavor. But Mr. Mann can get into Tang sandwiches too so he's a Mann of all people.

 

[Mr.Mann]

Mr.Mann does the best reviews ever. Now I gotta try some Dark Horse. I want to see the colors too!

Naw, I just like to bs when I can't think of anything else to say. For instance, do you see purple with Gandalf? Dark Horse is def. green, but who knows where that comes from? I am not a synesthetic. I have seen the same people say DH tastes like a Marlboro say Gandalf tastes just like Boba's? Did I just say that? Yep! Word? Yep! Crazy? Insane!

 

[Bronze]

Bronze's version of Mr. Mann's review:

This crap kicksass. Get it!

 

[gthompson]

Naw, I just like to bs when I can't think of anything else to say. For instance, do you see purple with Gandalf? Dark Horse is def. green, but who knows where that comes from? I am not a synesthetic. I have seen the same people say DH tastes like a Marlboro say Gandalf tastes just like Boba's? Did I just say that? Yep! Word? Yep! Crazy? Insane!

What? They aren't even in the same universe.

And I get more of a mahogany from Gandalf.

 

[Mr.Mann]

Re-post time! Now, this is a review! From my homeboy TEZ from 6/8/12:

Vendor: Want2Vape
Liquid: Vapenstein Blend London
Description: "Bright Virginias, spicy small leaf Orientals and smoky Latakia tobaccos combine in the Doctor's version of the traditional English pipe blend. Dark, deep, robust and smoky, this blend is our love song to tobacco and tobacco loving vapers. The jewel of the line."

Thoughts: When I tried London for the first time, my exact words were "This is a pipe." Honestly, that's what I said. It's not a sweet, subtle, mellow, or aromatic pipe, but it instantly reminded me of camping trips when I would smoke a pipe full of tobacco bought at my local tobacconist while sitting around the campfire talking with friends or by myself enjoying nature. It has been over a decade since I smoked a pipe, but the flavor was so distinct and authentic that it instantly triggered all of those memories and made me feel that I was momentarily reliving those experiences.

If I may digress, the best way I can describe the experience of vaping London is through the Belgian Surrealist painter René Magritte's "The Betrayal of Images."

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Upon looking at this painting, the first thought that is triggered in the viewer's mind is "pipe," followed shortly by associations the viewer may have with that concept, such as memories of their grandfather, the aroma of pipe smoke, or in my case, camping trips in my early 20's. The pipe is realistically rendered and intentionally placed in an empty field without any other conflicting imagery, in order to encourage free association with "pipe," and whatever other thoughts or sensations are linked to that concept. Some viewers may even experience synaesthesia and actually detect the aroma of a pipe.

Beneath the pipe in cursive, Magritte reminds us that "This is not a pipe." Our subjective minds fool us into believing that we are looking at a pipe, when in fact, objectively, what we are looking at is a stretched canvas to which the artist has applied colored pigments suspended in linseed oil. It is not a pipe. It is a painting of a pipe. A simulacrum.

Likewise, London is not a pipe tobacco. It is a natural tobacco extract with other natural flavorings suspended in a 70/30 PG/VG liquid solution. Like Magritte's painting, it is so realistically rendered, without any interfering signals, that it momentarily convinces me that I am smoking a pipe. This is the most realistic pipe juice I have tried, hands down, smoke and all.

Opinions will probably be split on this juice, with few occupying the middle ground. Fans of English pipe blends will appreciate it, but someone looking for a creamy, smooth aromatic with undertones of vanilla or fruity tartness will probably be disappointed. It is as bitter, leathery, and rich as Joan Rivers, but it is completely authentic. As the description states, it is spicy, smokey, and robust, but I might add that it has nice, slightly sweet finish that brings the experience to a satisfying conclusion.

This is one of my favorite juices, but with that said, I cannot vape it all the time. It is intense, and when I get the craving, puffing on it for 20 or 30 minutes satisfies me. I don't need to experience it all the time, and sometimes I am simply not in the mood to be forced to question my own objectivity versus subjectivity in a Magritte-esqe fashion and risk spiraling into an existential crisis. I keep some loaded up in its own clearomizer so that whenever I want it, I can throw it on a device, vape it for a little while, and then put it away for next time with no fuss. I keep it for special occasions, and it is a reward or a challenge, depending on how I approach it.

When I started vaping, I saw the potential to regain the enjoyment of tobacco that I had started with in smoking cigars and pipes, but lost through becoming addicted to cigarettes. Sadly, I was disappointed by most of the juices that I tried because they fell far short of that potential. London is one of a select few juices that should be the standard to which all other "authentic" pipe and cigar juices aspire.

 

[Mookie]

I tried Rock Star and Red Pirate in W2V. They were okay but not fab. You are all correct in that I am finding it very difficult to satisfy but I don't want to give up!

It's so difficult to explain. I really don't like the taste of a cigarette anymore either. Mr. Mann, you hit the nail on the head when you said that fresh pack smell. I think what I am trying to explain is a straight fresh clean tasting tobacco without a lot of sweetness, spice, grass, earth, fruit or cigar flavor.

 

[Mr.Mann]

What? They aren't even in the same universe.

And I get more of a mahogany from Gandalf.

Once again, I have to remember that I first said that when HHV was doing almost half the amount of extract they are using now. It honestly was different...much more universal. Now it is great, but a little more for a select crowd. At first, it didn't have much of a forceful presence, but now it jumps out of the bottle. Though it is not rude.

 

[Bronze]

I tried Rock Star and Red Pirate in W2V. They were okay but not fab. You are all correct in that I am finding it very difficult to satisfy but I don't want to give up!

It's so difficult to explain. I really don't like the taste of a cigarette anymore either. Mr. Mann, you hit the nail on the head when you said that fresh pack smell. I think what I am trying to explain is a straight fresh clean tasting tobacco without a lot of sweetness, spice, grass, earth, fruit or cigar flavor.

Yep, it's like finding the Ark. I wish you the best and hope you find it. I really do.

 

[Mr.Mann]

I tried Rock Star and Red Pirate in W2V. They were okay but not fab. You are all correct in that I am finding it very difficult to satisfy but I don't want to give up!

It's so difficult to explain. I really don't like the taste of a cigarette anymore either. Mr. Mann, you hit the nail on the head when you said that fresh pack smell. I think what I am trying to explain is a straight fresh clean tasting tobacco without a lot of sweetness, spice, grass, earth, fruit or cigar flavor.

Marlboro Type Flavor at high nic from The Plume Room. (Did I say that already?) Tell Andrea I said hook it up, for real!

Rock Star is non-net, but Red Pirate iz. Red Pirate is based on chewing tobacco BTW.

Mookie, I adore your signature!

 

[gthompson]

Marlboro Type Flavor at high nic from The Plume Room. (Did I say that already?) Tell Andrea I said hook it up, for real!

Rock Star is non-net, but Red Pirate iz. Red Pirate is based on chewing tobacco BTW.

I can guess WHICH chewing tobacco too. The same one my uncle chewed when I was a brat kid that me and my cousin snitched some of and went out behind the house and chewed, and then turned green and puked. I probably couldn't vape any Red Pirate.

 

[TBinAZ]

Yep, I just loaded up some Marlboro Type, and that is what you want. It kicks the Wild Turkey to the curb. And like Mr.Mann says, Andrea is very workable. Wish I could meet her in person actually...

Marlboro Type Flavor at high nic from The Plume Room. (Did I say that already?) Tell Andrea I said hook it up, for real!

Rock Star is non-net, but Red Pirate iz. Red Pirate is based on chewing tobacco BTW.

Mookie, I adore your signature!

 

[Mr.Mann]

Yep, I just loaded up some Marlboro Type, and that is what you want. It kicks the Wild Turkey to the curb. And like Mr.Mann says, Andrea is very workable. Wish I could meet her in person actually...

Kicks Wild Turkey to the curb in this particular hunt, not in the flavor hunt IMO. Wild Turkey is me offering thanksgiving to Nick, or him offering it to us!

Mookie, if Marlboro Type Flavor doesn't do it for you, then comeback and we will try and de-program you.

And on that note, I will go get some shut-eye after I vape some Patriot.​

 

[Bronze]

Back to linking vaping with smoking. I'm still reaching for the ash tray thinking I have a lit cig in it while I'm working around the house. It's like going from a stick shift to an automatic and continually reaching for the stick. Must be psychosomatic or something.

 

[Mookie]

Thanks so much for your help. I will definitely get the TPR and check out a couple other suggestions.