Natural Tobaccos

[Jerms]

Just dropping in with for a quick reality check!

In a masochistic moment, last night, I decided to revisit Rayvn. (Born date of1/14) I vaped some and...I didn't hate it!

It still smelled repugnant in the bottle. But less so... I was wondering... is it just me? Or could it actually, be becoming something, someone, (Not saying me, necessarily... ), could possible use?

There's one person on this thread who's elevated Ravyn to the status of like. I still have my bottle, mostly full, hoping one day it will settle into something consistent and likable. There's so much going on that when I've vaped it I would get a puff of pleasantly funky Perique with blackberry, and than next vape spoiled meat with BBQ sauce. It's like a flavor Russion Roulette that makes me timid to even taste it lol, so it sits and ages. Maybe next year I will fall in love and get to enjoy a brief affair with the remained 11+ ml.

If you asked me to describe the flavor, I couldn't. It's not sweet or sour, rich or bland. The website describes " custard, caramel and other old time favorites", none of which I've picked up on so far. There is a slight spiciness, but what or where it comes from is beyond me. I do Know it's a mild tobacco on the intake and a smooth semi-sweet exhale. But it is good stuff !

Interesting. The custard is what caught my eye at the website.

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[rdsok]

Just my opinion...... These are some of the muddiest looking NETs I've seen. Like W2V dark but I didn't really vape them enough to see how they are on the coils because unlike W2V these lack flavor to me and just didn't quite do it.


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I haven't had any issues with my own coils using MyVapeJuice NET's... so the muddy appearance seems to be just that and only that. Personally I have enjoyed each of the variations that MVJ has come up with and while they aren't "in your face" as some are... not everyone is looking for a vape that is "in your face" all of the time... I know others here have also expressed a liking, at least to an extent depending on that persons preferences... but I don't see your reasons to always put them down when they are mentioned when I know that you understand everyone has different tastes.

 

[CarbonThief]

Thanks for the description Scarfy. I figured I was never going to get feedback. I'm still working on that Candied Cavendish you sent me. I'm still on the fence. I can't make up my mind yet. I'm going to just keep toking on it for awhile. It does have an appeal though.

Vape it till you like it?

 

[CarbonThief]

There's one person on this thread who's elevated Ravyn to the status of like. I still have my bottle, mostly full, hoping one day it will settle into something consistent and likable. There's so much going on that when I've vaped it I would get a puff of pleasantly funky Perique with blackberry, and than next vape spoiled meat with BBQ sauce. It's like a flavor Russion Roulette that makes me timid to even taste it lol, so it sits and ages. Maybe next year I will fall in love and get to enjoy a brief affair with the remained 11+ ml.



Interesting. The custard is what caught my eye at the website.

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I suppose that would be me, perhaps Bill as I think he mentioned revisiting it and not hating it either if iirc. But yeah, I have been vaping it here and there and kind of enjoy the funk and the blackberry notes. Still don't love it, but the tobacco is presenting itself more and more with each passing week it seems.

 

[Jerms]

I suppose that would be me, perhaps Bill as I think he mentioned revisiting it and not hating it either if iirc. But yeah, I have been vaping it here and there and kind of enjoy the funk and the blackberry notes. Still don't love it, but the tobacco is presenting itself more and more with each passing week it seems.

Lol, no wasn't refering to you or Bill. I guess there is a couple of us (including) me that occasionally liked it, but only one that I know of that really likes it. Kudos for trying it fairly often as it ages, it enters my mind but a little PTSD creeps up from the occasional nasty pulls I got off it. I still enjoy the smell a lot.

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[Bronze]

Vape it till you like it?

Yes, Sir. At least that's what I'm hoping.

 

[billherbst]

Just dropping in with for a quick reality check! In a masochistic moment, last night, I decided to revisit Rayvn. (Born date of1/14) I vaped some and...I didn't hate it! It still smelled repugnant in the bottle. But less so... I was wondering... is it just me? Or could it actually, be becoming something, someone, (Not saying me, necessarily... ), could possible use?

Pardonme,

You took the words right out of my mouth. I thought I had finally given up on Ravyn a month ago as being just too complicated, too muddy, with too many odd flavors. But last week, in a moment of who knows what strange motivation, I grabbed my loaded carto of Ravyn and vaped it.

Well, you could have knocked me over with a feather! Did my Ravyn magically transform itself in a best-of-class superlative NET? No, of course not. But what had happened---apparently due to the beneficial effects of long-term steeping---was that the clash I tasted between all those too many flavors had calmed down as they diminished and the NET tobacco stepped forward to begin shining through. My first three reactions were disbelief, disbelief, and disbelief. My fourth reaction, after about five minutes of vaping this surprisingly palatable juice, was pleasure at the unexpected quality of the tobacco extract.

All in all, I'm shocked. And pleased. I consider AliceinVapeland---AiV for our acronym devotees, LOL---a terrific vendor with some wonderful juices, and I didn't like how I felt about Ravyn. Wonder of wonders, I can vape it now quite happily, at least until the next fork in the steeping road, whatever that may bring.

 

[Cnew]

I must say, this is one group that gives MANY second chances to (initially deemed) mediocre and even, dare I say, bad juices. I must admit that once I am turned off by a flavor, it takes alot to pick it up and try it again. If it is 'meh' or 'yick' on that second try, fuggedaboudit!
I will steep and wait, but after a few weeks, that's it. More than that??!! Wow. That is devotion.

Ironically, I don't have a problem giving second chances to people, just e liquids! LOL!

Btw, does anyone know what the odds of Ahlusions or any of the NET vendors selling WTA or WTA/NET juices? I know there has been some discussion but wasn't sure what the outcome of that was.

I am on the fence about WTAs in general, and am afraid to order from one vendor while hesitant to re-order from another, as I dislike contributing to the creation of a veritable monopoly.

Any insights are appreciated.

 

[Mr.Mann]

I must say, this is one group that gives MANY second chances to (initially deemed) mediocre and even, dare I say, bad juices. I must admit that once I am turned off by a flavor, it takes alot to pick it up and try it again. If it is 'meh' or 'yick' on that second try, fuggedaboudit!
I will steep and wait, but after a few weeks, that's it. More than that??!! Wow. That is devotion.

Ironically, I don't have a problem giving second chances to people, just e liquids! LOL!

Btw, does anyone know what the odds of Ahlusions or any of the NET vendors selling WTA or WTA/NET juices? I know there has been some discussion but wasn't sure what the outcome of that was.

I am on the fence about WTAs in general, and am afraid to order from one vendor while hesitant to re-order from another, as I dislike contributing to the creation of a veritable monopoly.

Any insights are appreciated.

As of now, Wlad says no. He has the capabilities, the expertise, and most definitely the equipment, but I don't know if he wants the hassle. That is the biggest thing with WTA, it is a MAJOR pain!

 

[RPadTV]

Opened up my bottle of Ahlusion Honey Cured over the weekend. It's definitely the lightest of the four Ahlusion aromatics I've tried, but not as light as I was expecting based off of what some others have posted. It's definitely richer and more flavorful than most tobacco e-liquids out there, but just not as bold as its sisters. The honey sweetness is natural and tasty, while the tobacco is, as expected, excellent. This is a good "starter" e-liquid for those that are concerned that Ahlusion's aromatics could be too overwhelming for them or those that like the aromatic line, but not as an all-day vape. Since it's a little bit lighter than the something like Blue Grass Burley or Vurley and much lighter than Devil Dog!, I can see more vapers vaping this for a longer period of time.

 

[Mr.Mann]

Opened up my bottle of Ahlusion Honey Cured over the weekend. It's definitely the lightest of the four Ahlusion aromatics I've tried, but not as light as I was expecting based off of what some others have posted. It's definitely richer and more flavorful than most tobacco e-liquids out there, but just not as bold as its sisters. The honey sweetness is natural and tasty, while the tobacco is, as expected, excellent. This is a good "starter" e-liquid for those that are concerned that Ahlusion's aromatics could be too overwhelming for them or those that like the aromatic line, but not as an all-day vape. Since it's a little bit lighter than the something like Blue Grass Burley or Vurley and much lighter than Devil Dog!, I can see more vapers vaping this for a longer period of time.

I hate to be a contrarian--well, no I don't! LOL--but I think Honey Cured was a little more rough-n-tumble than you do, though not much (it was a bit on the vegetal/floral side to me, but I did really like it). Maybe it's because I go the 510 atty route, but I think Vurley is more of the intro to aros than Honey Cured--though, I think Vurley is slightly more aggressive. However, I do believe that if it was not Vurley as the intro, and someone wanted to enter based on lowest level of gruff to the most, then it would be (in this order)

Sweet Georgia Peach,

Maple Burley/Cocoa Blend (about equal),

Honey Cured,

Vurley,

Smokin' Cherries,

Caribbean Blend,

Blue Grass Burley,

and of course,

Devil Dog

 

[TheCatsPajamas]

I hate to be a contrarian--well, no I don't! LOL--but I think Honey Cured was a little more rough-n-tumble than you do, though not much (it was a bit on the vegetal/floral side to me, but I did really like it). Maybe it's because I go the 510 atty route, but I think Vurley is more of the intro to aros than Honey Cured--though, I think Vurley is slightly more aggressive. However, I do believe that if it was not Vurley as the intro, and someone wanted to enter based on lowest level of gruff to the most, then it would be (in this order)

Sweet Georgia Peach,

Maple Burley/Cocoa Blend (about equal),

Honey Cured,

Vurley,

Smokin' Cherries,

Caribbean Blend,

Blue Grass Burley,

and of course,

Devil Dog

They are all so damn good!


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[TheCatsPajamas]

I haven't had any issues with my own coils using MyVapeJuice NET's... so the muddy appearance seems to be just that and only that. Personally I have enjoyed each of the variations that MVJ has come up with and while they aren't "in your face" as some are... not everyone is looking for a vape that is "in your face" all of the time... I know others here have also expressed a liking, at least to an extent depending on that persons preferences... but I don't see your reasons to always put them down when they are mentioned when I know that you understand everyone has different tastes.

Whoa dude, you are entitled to your opinions in regards to MVJ as am I. There are other "not in your face" vendors that I enjoy quite a bit. I just don't find any unique or discernible qualities from their juice when it comes to flavor. For me it's all about flavor not strength.

As far as it pertains to the topic we were discussing..... A muddy appearance lends itself to juices which have not be filtered adequately ie W2V. This gives the indication that particulate matter exists in the juice ie atty wrecking material. It's just an observation even though it is a non issue for me because I use RBAs with mesh or ceramic which can be dry burned and cleaned regularly. I have no reason to slander My Vape Juice. Diane is a wonderful lady whom I spoke with several times. I really wanted to love her juice but it just did nothing for me. I'm still interested in county squire and wicked wrench since people have been mentioning them. Actually the straight extract sounds enticing however the extraction process is paramount in transmitting clean and pure flavor as well as filtering. I wish her the best of luck with her business.


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[Shilo]

I see I got an email from Diane @ MyVapeJuice announcing that they've released their NET extracts into their DIY section...

Burley Tobacco Extract
Dark Fire Cured Tobacco Extract
Aged Burley Tobacco Extract
Light Fire Cured Tobacco Extract
Medium CT Broadleaf Tobacco Extract
Brightleaf Virginia Flue Cured - Smooth Extract
Canadian Virginia Flue Cured Tobacco Extract
Broad Leaf Tobacco Extract

I suspect some DIY'rs will really like seeing those.

Yuppers I tried the other NET extracts she has for DIY and they are really good

 

[Jerms]

Yuppers I tried the other NET extracts she has for DIY and they are really good

I'm just plain not a DIYer, the most I do is the very occasional frankenjuicing, but seeing those single leaf extracts released sure has me interested. One thing I thought of would be fun would be to make a small bottle of juice for each single leaf. Then using a dripping RBA start with a few drops of say aged Burley, adding maybe a couple drops of Virginia, and topping it with a drop or two of say Fire Cured. They would be somewhat mixed in the dripping RBA but some vapes would be stronger of one tobacco and then another. Maybe that is more fun in my mind than in practice.

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[Shilo]

I'm just plain not a DIYer, the most I do is the very occasional frankenjuicing, but seeing those single leaf extracts released sure has me interested. One thing I thought of would be fun would be to make a small bottle of juice for each single leaf. Then using a dripping RBA start with a few drops of say aged Burley, adding maybe a couple drops of Virginia, and topping it with a drop or two of say Fire Cured. They would be somewhat mixed in the dripping RBA but some vapes would be stronger of one tobacco and then another. Maybe that is more fun in my mind than in practice.

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I am sure thats exactly what she intended---so we can play around with them. Gotta get through the ones I have now but I do want to try the single extracts too. Even though I don't post here as primarily a DIYer I do like reading this thread.

 

[RPadTV]

I hate to be a contrarian--well, no I don't! LOL--but I think Honey Cured was a little more rough-n-tumble than you do, though not much (it was a bit on the vegetal/floral side to me, but I did really like it). Maybe it's because I go the 510 atty route, but I think Vurley is more of the intro to aros than Honey Cured--though, I think Vurley is slightly more aggressive.

It's not contrarian at all. We all have different tastes buds, so we react differently to different ones. I definitely respect your opinion on NETs and you've tried more Ahlusion aromatics than I have. I do agree that Vurley is more aggressive, which is why I'd suggest Honey Cured over it as a starter aromatic -- that and vanilla seems to be more of a divisive flavor than honey (I know a few vanilla haters and very few honey haters).

For the record, I try all my NETs on dripping atomizers and clearomizers so that I can see how different juice delivery systems treat them. Non NETs get that treatment as well, as well as carto/tank vaping.

 

[Mr.Mann]

It's not contrarian at all. We all have different tastes buds, so we react differently to different ones. I definitely respect your opinion on NETs and you've tried more Ahlusion aromatics than I have. I do agree that Vurley is more aggressive, which is why I'd suggest Honey Cured over it as a starter aromatic -- that and vanilla seems to be more of a divisive flavor than honey (I know a few vanilla haters and very few honey haters).

For the record, I try all my NETs on dripping atomizers and clearomizers so that I can see how different juice delivery systems treat them. Non NETs get that treatment as well, as well as carto/tank vaping.

I get it, we are talking the same side of the coin, we're just looking at it from different angles.

 

[rdsok]

Whoa dude, you are entitled to your opinions in regards to MVJ as am I. There are other "not in your face" vendors that I enjoy quite a bit. I just don't find any unique or discernible qualities from their juice when it comes to flavor. For me it's all about flavor not strength.....

If I misunderstood you... so be it. Just know that others may also have misread the way you stated your opinion on them... several times you had stated it in the same manner, which is why I brought it up.

 

[Bronze]

I'd just, for once, would like to be able to see someone say they dislike a juice and not offend anyone.

For the record, I enjoy HHV, GeJ, and QnJ. It's OK with me if you don't like those vendors. Fire away!!!



EDIT:

HHV = Heather's Heavenly Vapes
GeJ = GoodeJuice
QnJ = Quick nic Juice
OK = Okay.