Natural Tobaccos

[scarf-ace]

I think I must have PIF'd most of my Vaperites because at the moment I can only find two: Batch 21 and RY4 (apparently I didn't finish the bottle! ) Revisiting the Batch 21 reminds me what I said about it originally... it's a lychee flavored tobacco and not a caramel tobacco like the website says. After 8 months-ish, the caramel has taken a step forward, tobacco a step back, and it still tastes fruity/rosy to me. Overall it is a bit insipid. I will say this though: it might definitely work for someone who likes more delicate flavors, and it puts out major vision-obscuring clouds of vapor.

Will search for more shortly.

 

[Mr.Mann]

I think I must have PIF'd most of my Vaperites because at the moment I can only find two: Batch 21 and RY4 (apparently I didn't finish the bottle! ) Revisiting the Batch 21 reminds me what I said about it originally... it's a lychee flavored tobacco and not a caramel tobacco like the website says. After 8 months-ish, the caramel has taken a step forward, tobacco a step back, and it still tastes fruity/rosy to me. Overall it is a bit insipid. I will say this though: it might definitely work for someone who likes more delicate flavors, and it puts out major vision-obscuring clouds of vapor.

Will search for more shortly.

That is exactly how I remember them! But, but... those flavors on the site look soooo good! Dang it.

 

[Mr.Mann]

Forgive me for the cross-thread contamination.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-simple-i-did-but-now-i-dont.html#post9248160

Considering I know so many of you in here, if not all, I would like to know more about your story with flavors. Could you all take a moment and provide some info on your history regarding flavors. It's a simple questionnaire, but I think it could be beneficial for new vapers to see that chasing to find flavors doesn't always mean that's where they will stay, and then again, it may.

Just having to think about those questions made me realize what my very first juice purchase was and the vendor that has been on my most cherished list for the longest.

 

[AnthonyB]

I have purchased two substantial orders from Vaperite but I will disclaim myself right from the outset. I purchased these liquids 9 months ago and 15 months ago, when Vaperite were one of the few vendors making NETs. My best guess is there has been an evolution, and even a revolution of NETS since then and I don't know if Todd Gano has kept up with the times.

Now having said that, Vaperite is my favourite NET manufacturer, even more so than BWB and Alien Visions. Their perique is/was something special. The Lou's Toasted tobacco, Cuban, Toscan and Natural generic Tobaccos are superb. The Vr4 and 777 were also wonderful. I had a preference for the 777 which was more of a smoky and less sweet version of Vr4.

I am not much for sweet vapes but in the samplers I got which included sweet and fruit flavours, the flavours jumped right out at me. I could see how someone who loves their sweet and fruit tobaccos would love these. The caramel and chocolate flavours were like biting right into a dessert. 2 weeksold Vaperite Perique is still one of my best vaping experiences to date.

I've still got some Vaperite stuff on hand so I might see how they taste after a year of steeping. I am noticing more and more sweetness coming out as they age. Not a good thing for me. I liked Vaperite stuff 1-2 months old.

Totally hand jiving!

Boom,

have you tried Vaperite? I have this burning desire to to revisit them, but I am given pause due to my hesitation with the sampling lifestyle again. Who here, you included, has anything to say about Vaperite (positive or negative)?

 

[AnthonyB]

I ordered the perique tabac from Highbrow. Can't wait to try it. Love a good perique!

Here's a review of three Highbrow Vapor e-liquids that I really, really enjoyed (full review and steeping notes here). In the interest of this thread is the company's Tabac de Perique. I really enjoy the sweet and nutty tobacco flavor of this juice. It's not as "funky" as other perique juices I've tried since burley tobacco is used in the mix too. The burley does a great job of complementing and taming the perique.

 

[AnthonyB]

I just pulled out my Batch21 Vaperite after reading your post Scarf. I concur. Now that you mention it I notice the Lychee. It's nearly a full bottle so I must not have loved it. I still don't but then again I am vaping it in a dying 8 month old 901 HH357 which I should probably throw out but have giving it a graceful old age.

The batch 21 I have is 12 mg which was a mistake in ordering because 12 mg Vaperite is weaker than 12 mg from other vendors in my opinion. It's a shallow flavour and barely any throat hit. It's almost got a palate cleansing quality to it. Wasn't this batch 21 meant to be a peppery tobacco by description on the website? That is why I bought it at the time.

AB

I think I must have PIF'd most of my Vaperites because at the moment I can only find two: Batch 21 and RY4 (apparently I didn't finish the bottle! ) Revisiting the Batch 21 reminds me what I said about it originally... it's a lychee flavored tobacco and not a caramel tobacco like the website says. After 8 months-ish, the caramel has taken a step forward, tobacco a step back, and it still tastes fruity/rosy to me. Overall it is a bit insipid. I will say this though: it might definitely work for someone who likes more delicate flavors, and it puts out major vision-obscuring clouds of vapor.

Will search for more shortly.

 

[Red_Bird]

B.O.M.B. net tobaccy from Cravin Vapes......I make anything else I vape, but this is great stuff with morning coffee.

 

[RPadTV]

I ordered the perique tabac from Highbrow. Can't wait to try it. Love a good perique!

I'm looking forward to your thoughts on it. It's different from straight perique juices because of the burley, but yummy (to me) in its own right. I'd give it at least three weeks of steeping.

 

[boomerdude]

Vaperite sounds good. I'll probably give them a try if my experiment with TB extraction goes south.

The best tobacco experience I ever had was back in the 70's. I smoked a pipe back then for about 5 yrs. and once a month I would stop by L.J. Peretti and pick up a few pouches plus a house blend to try. Their Ebony house blend was just superb, couldn't put it down.

Now that I'm vaping I want to build up a mixing stock of straight one flavor NETS. So I think I'm going to pick up a few ounces of blender tobaccos along with a few premium cigars and give it a go. Perique, Green River Black Burley and Vanilla might make my own Ebony.

 

[AnthonyB]

Rpadtv, I like burley and Perique so having them together is very intriguing. I will post my thoughts on it. I ordered 4 or 5 bottles from Highbrow and they are most likely at 10,000 metres right now. I wait with vapey breath!

I'm looking forward to your thoughts on it. It's different from straight perique juices because of the burley, but yummy (to me) in its own right. I'd give it at least three weeks of steeping.

 

[billherbst]

VapeRite and BackwoodsBrew were the first natural tobacco juices I purchased, back in late 2010, with Want2Vape soon after, in early 2011. I still don't know for sure if Don at BWB uses macerated NETs, and---if so---which specific BWB tobacco blends use them. I've read that Don is very tight-lipped about his juice ingredients, but perhaps someone here knows. Anyway, I think of Todd at VR and Donley at w2v as early pioneers of NETs.

That said, the hard truth is that, while I have great admiration for Todd, the only VapeRite NET I've ever truly loved was VR4, with that rich, gooey caramel. All the other NET juices I've tried from VR were just so-so and didn't thrill me. I've had a somewhat higher happy-happy ratio with w2v NETs, but generally speaking, I must confess that the number of NET-based retail juices I actually go crazy over remains fairly small, maybe only 10-20% of all I've purchased or been sent for free. The other 80-90% vary from great-but-not-for-me through pretty good to OK and not-so-hot.

In fairness, though, the same breakdown applies for all the juices I've ever vaped of any flavor---retail or my own DIY. A few are to-die-for, but most juices just don't thrill me.

I'm not sure if that says more about me or the juices. Probably both.

Oddly enough, now that I've made my own home-brewed NET and am doing mostly DIY for new juices these days, I find that I'm gradually re-introducing synthetic tobacco flavorings into some of my NET mixes with tasty results. Who'd a thunk it? I guess what goes around comes around.

 

[Mr.Mann]

VapeRite and BackwoodsBrew were the first natural tobacco juices I purchased, back in late 2010, with Want2Vape soon after, in early 2011. I still don't know for sure if Don at BWB uses macerated NETs, and---if so---which specific BWB tobacco blends use them. I've read that Don is very tight-lipped about his juice ingredients, but perhaps someone here knows. Anyway, I think of Todd at VR and Donley at w2v as early pioneers of NETs.

That said, the hard truth is that, while I have great admiration for Todd, the only VapeRite NET I've ever truly loved was VR4, with that rich, gooey caramel. All the other NET juices I've tried from VR were just so-so and didn't thrill me. I've had a somewhat higher happy-happy ratio with w2v NETs, but generally speaking, I must confess that the number of NET-based retail juices I actually go crazy over remains fairly small, maybe only 10-20% of all I've purchased or been sent for free. The other 80-90% vary from great-but-not-for-me through pretty good to OK and not-so-hot.

In fairness, though, the same breakdown applies for all the juices I've ever vaped of any flavor---retail or my own DIY. A few are to-die-for, but most juices just don't thrill me.

I'm not sure if that says more about me or the juices. Probably both.

Oddly enough, now that I've made my own home-brewed NET and am doing mostly DIY for new juices these days, I find that I'm gradually re-introducing synthetic tobacco flavorings into some of my NET mixes with tasty results. Who'd a thunk it? I guess what goes around comes around.

I had a nice atty mix-up with Phoenix from Vapor Station (synthetic pipe) and Patriot from GoodeJuice (no BS pipe) and had a chuckle at how the two did not clash but tried desperately to work together. I don't know if I would actively set out to mix those two again, but it was a vape that let me know that both synths and nattys can augment each other quit effectively if done right.

 

[AnthonyB]

If I could ask, what are the ones in the 10-20% for you? I have a Want2vape order coming to me thanks to Vulcan Vape who are the international distributor of Want2Vape.

By the way, Vaperite's VR4 won the Vapenstein award for the best Ry4 in 2010 and I think other Vaperite juices were strong contenders for the outright best tobacco juice in 2010 by Vapenstein.

If I could narrow my favourite Vaperite juices down to 3 I would say the Perique, Lou's Toasted Hazelnut tobacco and the Vr4.

It's amazing how much the area of NET's has developed in less than 18 months. There was a long thread about 18 months ago asking people what their favourite juices (or tobacco juices, not sure now if it was specifically tobacco or general) were. I recall seeing Vaperite feature regularly in people's top 3 going head to head with BWB and Alien Visions.

It's been an exciting few years in vaping.

VapeRite and BackwoodsBrew were the first natural tobacco juices I purchased, back in late 2010, with Want2Vape soon after, in early 2011. I still don't know for sure if Don at BWB uses macerated NETs, and---if so---which specific BWB tobacco blends use them. I've read that Don is very tight-lipped about his juice ingredients, but perhaps someone here knows. Anyway, I think of Todd at VR and Donley at w2v as early pioneers of NETs.

That said, the hard truth is that, while I have great admiration for Todd, the only VapeRite NET I've ever truly loved was VR4, with that rich, gooey caramel. All the other NET juices I've tried from VR were just so-so and didn't thrill me. I've had a somewhat higher happy-happy ratio with w2v NETs, but generally speaking, I must confess that the number of NET-based retail juices I actually go crazy over remains fairly small, maybe only 10-20% of all I've purchased or been sent for free. The other 80-90% vary from great-but-not-for-me through pretty good to OK and not-so-hot.

In fairness, though, the same breakdown applies for all the juices I've ever vaped of any flavor---retail or my own DIY. A few are to-die-for, but most juices just don't thrill me.

I'm not sure if that says more about me or the juices. Probably both.

Oddly enough, now that I've made my own home-brewed NET and am doing mostly DIY for new juices these days, I find that I'm gradually re-introducing synthetic tobacco flavorings into some of my NET mixes with tasty results. Who'd a thunk it? I guess what goes around comes around.

 

[Mr.Mann]

I should have made it clearer that the scale was 1-10 for straight-up NETs (not hybrids) and not a "no sweetness to high fructose corn syrup! scale." LOL! I would put Devil Dog at a 2-3 and maybe Organic Tobacco #1 at a 2 (from what I remember of OT#1). I read that the varying curing processes of different tobaccos is what transforms certain compounds into sugars; and some tobaccos are just sweetened after the fact. Now, of course, some vendors that are extracting from pre-flavored pipe tobaccos are going to necessarily have sweeter juices due to the added flavorings; but, some tobaccos, due to the curing, will have their own level of sweetness that may, almost, assert itself as "sweetened" when it very well may not be. Fire-curing is supposed to produce a low level of sweetness, but I think Fire-Cured from GeJ is about a 5-6 on the sweetness scale of straight-up NETs. We also must remember that the VG in the juice is also going to lend itself to, if not amplify, the sweetness of a lot of NETs. Seeing as how there aren't many straight PG NETs, most will have some level of sweetness, if not for just the VG.

As an aside, I think the one vendor that produces many NETs that are 1-2 is W2V. Hardly any actual sweetness to those. I think Paris is a 1 on my sacle. Hopefully that gives an indication of how my scale works. What would be a 10 for a straight-up NET? Don't know that I've had it, but it will likely be pre-sweetened.

I meant to add to the no sweetness to sweetness list that Sahara from Ahlusion is about, maybe, 1.5 on the inhale and a 1 on the exhale. I have to have a really good dry juice on hand at all times, but so many evade being vapable long term; this juice, Sahara, has no such problem.

 

[jamesfarrell]

Please tell me they do not put HFCS in e-liquid.

 

[Mr.Mann]

Please tell me they do not put HFCS in e-liquid.

Not any vendor that I know of.

 

[Jerms]

Please tell me they do not put HFCS in e-liquid.

I think Sucralose (Splenda) and Ethyl Maltol are the most common ejuice sweeteners, someone correct me if I'm wrong.

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[Mr.Mann]

I think Sucralose (Splenda) and Ethyl Maltol are the most common ejuice sweeteners, someone correct me if I'm wrong.

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Looks good to me.

 

[Mr.Mann]

Congrats, rdsok!

 

[rdsok]

Congrats, rdsok!

Thanks bud...

I chose Vita Bella for the GeJ prize... The choice made from the praise given here after it has steeped long enough. I almost went with a risky one, Fire Cured... but I'll save that one for later since I had issues with Latakia from some of the previous ones I've had... I also need to check out Organic #1 at some point, but I don't think that is a stretch for my pallete