My experience with GeJ is the tobacco gets deeper and stronger with age, and the musty funk notes make an appearance after a while and gets stronger, other than Fire Cured which just loses it's sparkle with age.
Sent from my LGL55C using Tapatalk 2
Natural Tobaccos
- Thread starter luceblueboy
- Start date
- th_trl_thread_readers 0
- Status
My experience with GeJ is the tobacco gets deeper and stronger with age, and the musty funk notes make an appearance after a while and gets stronger, other than Fire Cured which just loses it's sparkle with age.
Sent from my LGL55C using Tapatalk 2
Good to know on the FC Jerms. I do believe at this point early in these juices lifecycles', the fire cured is my favorite! I will vape away on this one, per your estimable opinion.
Vita Bella, of course, and especially the Natural Perique are the ones I am particularly hoping come alive with age. I definitely am looking for a bit more funk to my perique.
Last edited:
Vape vape vape that FC up! Quick quick before it loses it's luster!
I think Mann guessed it lasted about 5 weeks or so before the reverse steep kicked in? I thought it was still a decent vape after it aged, but once that kick from the Latakia faded I really missed how it was fresh.
VB and NP will do nothing but improve the longer you hold on to them.
Sent from my LGL55C using Tapatalk 2
Ok, after vaping these GeJ's for the past two days, I decided to break out the MVJ for another test run, after initial disappointment. So far all I've revisited is My Hero Original. My my, what some long steeping (maybe 2.5 or 3 months?) has done to you! It may be the new coil and rocking the RBAs these days, that is playing equal part in this, but I can actually taste something here, and it's not at all bad. In fact, I think I quite like this juice!
After this I will be checking back in with the Rogue, Rogue Touch of Spice, My Hero Vanilla, Savage, Savage Cocoa, and the Black and Blue (whichever iteration that one is, and if I mixed up some of the other flavors, well, I was just too lazy to go remind myself...), and I must say I am quite looking forward to this MVJ rediscovery...finally! I will have to report back here, and to Diane as well, as when I ordered three of these (Savage, Rogue, and My Hero for starter analyses), due to a ordering glitch, she was kind enough to throw in ALL of those others in full sizes for free, and I am, especially now, indebted to her for that kindness.
My NET world continues to expand! Oh geez, there goes the tax refund...
After this I will be checking back in with the Rogue, Rogue Touch of Spice, My Hero Vanilla, Savage, Savage Cocoa, and the Black and Blue (whichever iteration that one is, and if I mixed up some of the other flavors, well, I was just too lazy to go remind myself...), and I must say I am quite looking forward to this MVJ rediscovery...finally! I will have to report back here, and to Diane as well, as when I ordered three of these (Savage, Rogue, and My Hero for starter analyses), due to a ordering glitch, she was kind enough to throw in ALL of those others in full sizes for free, and I am, especially now, indebted to her for that kindness.
My NET world continues to expand! Oh geez, there goes the tax refund...
I think its a conspiracy... I think they are becoming available every monday morning for order and someone is out there buying them all up by placing orders for 100 30ml bottles because they know that it is slowing making the rest of us insane.
I have "my people" looking into it.
In more sane news, I am completely with you. Methinks that I will need to order 60ml when they become available just to make sure that there isn't a shortage in the future... or 2X 60ml ordered 2 - 3 weeks apart so when I run out (which will happen), I will have some steeping.
or maybe I'll just get a liter...
I have a 30ml 24mg bottle of XPress Sahara Blend. Mr.Mann is awesome and grabbed it for me while he was there I think a week and a half ago.
Actually 11W is the same on 1 or 5 Ohms. It just automatically adjusts the voltage to keep the wattage even. I have a custom DNA20 box mod. On the DNA20 screen it displays Watts, Ohms, Volts and battery charge. It only shows volts when firing. Wattage stays the same, but if I put a different atty/carto on the voltage changes.
You probably had the 2 mixed up.
Last edited:
Ok, after vaping these GeJ's for the past two days, I decided to break out the MVJ for another test run, after initial disappointment. So far all I've revisited is My Hero Original. My my, what some long steeping (maybe 2.5 or 3 months?) has done to you! It may be the new coil and rocking the RBAs these days, that is playing equal part in this, but I can actually taste something here, and it's not at all bad. In fact, I think I quite like this juice!
After this I will be checking back in with the Rogue, Rogue Touch of Spice, My Hero Vanilla, Savage, Savage Cocoa, and the Black and Blue (whichever iteration that one is, and if I mixed up some of the other flavors, well, I was just too lazy to go remind myself...), and I must say I am quite looking forward to this MVJ rediscovery...finally! I will have to report back here, and to Diane as well, as when I ordered three of these (Savage, Rogue, and My Hero for starter analyses), due to a ordering glitch, she was kind enough to throw in ALL of those others in full sizes for free, and I am, especially now, indebted to her for that kindness.
My NET world continues to expand! Oh geez, there goes the tax refund...
Wait, you still have tax refund left that didn't go to vaping
lol mine went to the quick.And I can tell ya it's not just the different JDS that improved My Hero for you. To me the MVJ improve more than about any other juice with a long steep, even more than GeJ. They don't make drastic changes like GeJ can, but just keep getting deeper and richer.
Sent from my LGL55C using Tapatalk 2
Thanks Cannedwolf.
I watched PBusardo's review of the Vapeonly BCC tank and learnt a great deal there about the leakage issue. Mine hasn't leaked at all yet. Busardo mentions that the washer can become a bit loose after many fixtures. So far, I've had no leakage at all, not even a drop. Scarf-ace also mentioned to me she didn't like hers and that hers leaked but she had a try with mine when we met up recently and she was quite impressed with it.
I've had a lot of tanks, but this one is capturing everything I wanted in a tank and most importantly, it's getting the most out of my NET juices. I am in vaping heaven with the Patriot in this tank.
Thanks for the heads up on the amount of juice in the tank. I will be sure to refill when it gets down to about a 1/4.
I think you might be right about the coolness of the vape keeping the juice from tasting a bit burnt. I think now that my brain has registered the innate flavour of the juice I can stick it in a warmer RBA atty and register the awesome, cigar like flavour of the juice without questioning my senses about whether it's burnt atty I am tasting.
I watched PBusardo's review of the Vapeonly BCC tank and learnt a great deal there about the leakage issue. Mine hasn't leaked at all yet. Busardo mentions that the washer can become a bit loose after many fixtures. So far, I've had no leakage at all, not even a drop. Scarf-ace also mentioned to me she didn't like hers and that hers leaked but she had a try with mine when we met up recently and she was quite impressed with it.
I've had a lot of tanks, but this one is capturing everything I wanted in a tank and most importantly, it's getting the most out of my NET juices. I am in vaping heaven with the Patriot in this tank.
Thanks for the heads up on the amount of juice in the tank. I will be sure to refill when it gets down to about a 1/4.
I think you might be right about the coolness of the vape keeping the juice from tasting a bit burnt. I think now that my brain has registered the innate flavour of the juice I can stick it in a warmer RBA atty and register the awesome, cigar like flavour of the juice without questioning my senses about whether it's burnt atty I am tasting.
Right... he was referring to the heat required to generate 11w is different based on the surface area of the coil. Generally speaking, you will burn less often running 11W on a 5ohm than you will running 11 w on a 1.5ohm based purely on surface area. of course, your equipment will have an impact on that as well.
I've just loaded up a Kangar with Fire Cured right before I read these last few posts so I am sure glad I choose this juice ahead of the other Gej juices which are probably going to get better with age.
Ok, after vaping these GeJ's for the past two days, I decided to break out the MVJ for another test run, after initial disappointment. So far all I've revisited is My Hero Original. My my, what some long steeping (maybe 2.5 or 3 months?) has done to you! It may be the new coil and rocking the RBAs these days, that is playing equal part in this, but I can actually taste something here, and it's not at all bad. In fact, I think I quite like this juice!
After this I will be checking back in with the Rogue, Rogue Touch of Spice, My Hero Vanilla, Savage, Savage Cocoa, and the Black and Blue (whichever iteration that one is, and if I mixed up some of the other flavors, well, I was just too lazy to go remind myself...), and I must say I am quite looking forward to this MVJ rediscovery...finally! I will have to report back here, and to Diane as well, as when I ordered three of these (Savage, Rogue, and My Hero for starter analyses), due to a ordering glitch, she was kind enough to throw in ALL of those others in full sizes for free, and I am, especially now, indebted to her for that kindness.
My NET world continues to expand! Oh geez, there goes the tax refund...
MVJ is 100% legit and Diane is a sweet heart! Her line of tobacco strength is this: Wicked Wench > Country Squire > My Hero > Rogue > Savage. WW being the strongest, Savage being the least strong. This is straight from her mouth, btw.
My Hero Black and Blue, regular My Hero Tobacco and Country Squire Caramel Apple are my favorites from MVJ. WW Bangin' Butterscotch is up there, too.
I've got another 30ml bottle arriving tomorrow so I can steep that one while vaping the bottle I already have. I also ordered some of their apple cured tobacco, curious to try it.
Sorry, I meant patriot blend-- apparently I wasn't at the end of the thread-- my bad
This is the best way to get juice. Order it a month ahead of when you'll need it. For instance: I have one 30ml bottle of Velvet Cloud Vapor Blue Beard left. So it's time to re-up on that flavor. So I order anywhere from 1-4 30ml bottles to steep deep.
Eventually you'll get in to a rhythm and know when it's time to reorder.
And I think you'll rather enjoy Patriot. It's one finely done NET.
I had nothing mixed up... spreading the wattage ( which results as heat ) across a larger area will result in less heat in one area... yes the wattage is the same but the area on on the coil ( using the same gauge wire ) is larger... so the heat is spread out more across the surface of the coil.
Last November, I ordered three of the four juices from Hangsen's then-new Premium line of "natural tobacco" juices: Storm, Impulse, and Delight. I didn't order the fourth because it was a menthol, and I'm not a menthol guy.
In December 2012, I reviewed them on the thread, linked here. At that time, I didn't think much of them and suspected that they were all made with commercial Tobacco Absolute (TA) or Tobacco Extract (TE). Although they are less TA-like than Mom&Pop's or Moondrop's TA/TE juices---for instance, they have no yellow-green oily residue and don't taste ashy (implying judicious and restrained use of TA)---I found them to be one-dimensional and not very interesting when compared to most offerings from the artisan NET vendors that those of us on who participate in this thread know and love.
Since they've been steeping in my juice stash for almost six months, I thought an updated review might be in order.
Guess what? I like them better now. Go figure. My change of heart may be attributable to either or both of two factors: 1. the juices have improved with long steeping, and/or 2. the past six months have seen an explosion, in fact, a near doubling, of NET vendors in the marketplace. I think #1 is probably true---the juices simply taste better now. #2 might also be a factor, however. With so many more retail NET juices available in the marketplace, the Hangsen Premiums may have risen in my estimation by virtue of "grading on the curve." They still can't hold a candle to Ahlusion or GeJ NETs, but in the overall scheme of all retail natural tobacco juices, they're not half-bad, falling roughly in the middle of the pack.
Delight is the "lite" version of the three, a clear liquid with mild tobacco taste and minimal impact---well-suited as a nice, easy background vape when doing other tasks that take the focus of one's attention. Storm, a golden-colored transparent liquid, is the strongest of the trio, with a more sustantial tobacco flavor that is both nutty and caramelly. Impulse is the middle sibling, stronger than Delight, but not as potent as Storm. Impulse has more tobacco flavor than Delight, but isn't as nutty/caramelly as Storm. Curiously, Impulse is the darkest of the three liquids---a caramel-colored transparency. Base blends aren't listed on the bottle labels, but from the viscosity I'd guess 80/20 PG/VG.
Of the three, Storm is the clear winner, with its caramel nuttiness making for a tasty hybrid NET flavor profile. If you'd like a DK-TAB kind of flavor made with natural tobacco that tastes a lot better than DK-TAB, Hangsen Storm will do the trick. I imagine that this is the market niche the flavor chemists at Hangsen had in mind when they formulated Storm, to take aim at Dekang's huge market share in China. Delight and Impulse, while not sit-up-and-take-notice juices, both qualify as nice, laid-back, mild tobacco vapes.
Keep in mind that a long steep may be necessary to bring these juices to maturity. Their tobacco elements remain one-dimensional, but that's true of many NETs and isn't necessarily a bad thing, as long as the flavors are clean and good, which these are. They also fare better at lower heat/wattage.
Link to purchase: Hangsen Premium Tobaccos/CaterpillarVapes
In December 2012, I reviewed them on the thread, linked here. At that time, I didn't think much of them and suspected that they were all made with commercial Tobacco Absolute (TA) or Tobacco Extract (TE). Although they are less TA-like than Mom&Pop's or Moondrop's TA/TE juices---for instance, they have no yellow-green oily residue and don't taste ashy (implying judicious and restrained use of TA)---I found them to be one-dimensional and not very interesting when compared to most offerings from the artisan NET vendors that those of us on who participate in this thread know and love.
Since they've been steeping in my juice stash for almost six months, I thought an updated review might be in order.
Guess what? I like them better now. Go figure. My change of heart may be attributable to either or both of two factors: 1. the juices have improved with long steeping, and/or 2. the past six months have seen an explosion, in fact, a near doubling, of NET vendors in the marketplace. I think #1 is probably true---the juices simply taste better now. #2 might also be a factor, however. With so many more retail NET juices available in the marketplace, the Hangsen Premiums may have risen in my estimation by virtue of "grading on the curve." They still can't hold a candle to Ahlusion or GeJ NETs, but in the overall scheme of all retail natural tobacco juices, they're not half-bad, falling roughly in the middle of the pack.
Delight is the "lite" version of the three, a clear liquid with mild tobacco taste and minimal impact---well-suited as a nice, easy background vape when doing other tasks that take the focus of one's attention. Storm, a golden-colored transparent liquid, is the strongest of the trio, with a more sustantial tobacco flavor that is both nutty and caramelly. Impulse is the middle sibling, stronger than Delight, but not as potent as Storm. Impulse has more tobacco flavor than Delight, but isn't as nutty/caramelly as Storm. Curiously, Impulse is the darkest of the three liquids---a caramel-colored transparency. Base blends aren't listed on the bottle labels, but from the viscosity I'd guess 80/20 PG/VG.
Of the three, Storm is the clear winner, with its caramel nuttiness making for a tasty hybrid NET flavor profile. If you'd like a DK-TAB kind of flavor made with natural tobacco that tastes a lot better than DK-TAB, Hangsen Storm will do the trick. I imagine that this is the market niche the flavor chemists at Hangsen had in mind when they formulated Storm, to take aim at Dekang's huge market share in China. Delight and Impulse, while not sit-up-and-take-notice juices, both qualify as nice, laid-back, mild tobacco vapes.
Keep in mind that a long steep may be necessary to bring these juices to maturity. Their tobacco elements remain one-dimensional, but that's true of many NETs and isn't necessarily a bad thing, as long as the flavors are clean and good, which these are. They also fare better at lower heat/wattage.
Link to purchase: Hangsen Premium Tobaccos/CaterpillarVapes
The way you've worded that makes me wonder if you don't know that the replaceable heads on the Vapeonly and Kangers can be cleaned over and over before they loose any performance... something you can't do with a standard filler type carto. I've been using the same coils on my Kangers since around the first of March now and they are still going strong. You simply soak in some PGA or similar, and then dry burn them afterwords.
That doesn't change the point I was trying to get across...
I was talking about using the same JDS... one uses a certain gauge wire to achieve a certain ( say 1.5 ohm ) coil... another uses the same gauge wire but is longer which results in a higher ohm coil. Apply the same wattage to both and the longer with a higher resistance is cooler even though it is using the same wattage. Another way to say it... both units receive the same amount of heat ( BTU's ) but one is focused on less mass so that mass gets hotter... the other, having more mass, is able to spread that heat out across a larger area and therefore had a cooler temp.
I'm not saying what you said is wrong... just that it didn't apply to what I was saying. Two separate subjects.
Yea, I tried ribbon kanthal. It took so long to heat up my VAMO reaches its' cut-off,
- Status
Similar threads
- Locked
