need advice on a new purchase

[Matthew Bye]

ok so a little background info. smoked manuals for 6 years or so. first ecig was a 501 carty cigarette looking ecig. maintaince was okay minimal leaking good beginner ecig. then i seen on youtube how people got big clouds of smoke on other devices and, (heres the problem) i bought a ego-T it had more vapor and i was happy for about a week and then after about my 5th or 6th leak i decided it wasnt my fault these leaks are happening this thing just sucks.

ok so ive been really craving manuals again and due to lots of stress i back slid and smoked one. EKK!! so i went and bought some 501 cartys they were a 5 pack of 1.7 ohm rejuvenaters or something like that from crystal clear vapes. so thats on its way as we speak just to get me by. but ive been looking around and i think i want a mechanical mod and a re-buildable. im not set on this as ive herd there is some danger in this setup but im not sure what said danger is. is the battery going to catch fire or blow up and turn the mod into a pipe bomb? I have a good common sense mechanically and tinker with stuff all the time. so i dont think rebuilding a coil looks that hard to me. Im wonder though is there any rebuildables that dont leak im tired of paying a .... load for ejuice and it just end up in my mouth or on the desk or what have you. also is the risk of mechanicals exploding or whatever worth it so you can do sub ohm coils. Also is it possible to get a good but not top notch mod and rba for $100 that doesnt leak, with all the extras included like wire and ss mesh and the battery and charger, ect.

 

[Fizzpop]

Go with a variable voltage or variable wattage PV first or maybe even an eGo Twist. These have protective circuitry in them that will help prevent you blowing your face off. Also, being able to control the voltage/wattage is nice as you can dial in a very nice vape. Which one to get? Doesn't matter, because if you understand Ohm's law, you understand you are really buying the same thing; the only difference is if the voltage for a desired wattage is being calculated for you by the PV.

Mechanical mods are essentially a battery in a tube with a switch. Those who understand their battery's Amperage, Ohm's law, and how to combine that with a (safe) resistance love mechnanicals for their Spartan simplicity, but mechanicals can be very dangerous if you don't have that understanding. Get a PV with some smart electronics in it. They are much safer. You mentioned sub-ohm. You should read this thread:

Cloud Chasing and Sub Ohm Foolishness

As far as rebuildables go, they are great, but you should have some patience, the ability to work with small parts, a multimeter to test your coils, and of course, an understanding of Ohm's law. I'd recommend a rebuildable drip style atomizer first, they are very easy to rebuild and reasonably cheap. Working with SS mesh can be tricky, I'd recommend starting with something simpler. It should also be noted that SS mesh is most often used in Genesis style tanks. These give a wonderful vape, but they will leak unless kept upright, so they don't meet your criteria. I'd recommend a carto-tank or bottom coil tank, personally.

 

[tayone415]

Variable Voltage batteries are better as you can control the harshness of your puffs and the amount of vapor. I also noticed some of my clearomizers, and certain e-juices don't work as well with lower voltages.

 

[Fizzpop]

I noticed you said you had leaking with your eGo, but you didn't say what kind of atomizer you were using. The eGo-T is a battery. If you are having problems with leaking, you may just want to try a different atomizer or cartomizer.

 

[BlueMoods]

I agree go VV/VW and a good, rebuildable tank, like a Kanger Protank (any of them). Or if you want to improve those ego batteries you have, just go with a Mini Protank. It is rebuildable and much better than the cheap clearomizers those batteries probably came with.

 

[hvac999]

You might want to go to http://www.myvaporstore.com/Vision_Spinner_Joye_Ego_C_Twist_Combo_p/vvs-c.htm and select the variable voltage 1300mah Spinner battery and select EVODs for cartomizers. The evods should not leak if properly assembled.

 

[puchox]

I started vaping around 4 months ago the most hassle free vapes i have are the kanger protank, innokin iclear16 and an F16 carto tank with boge LR cartomizers.


If you like an airy draw the protank is great, the pyrex glass is a huge plus in my book.
If you prefer a tighter draw i'd recommend the i16 and in my particular case the dual coil inside the clearo makes a great difference in flavor; also they hold 1.6mL so if you like to change flavors it's "easier" because they empty faster
And last but not least, a cartotank, if you don't mind fiddling a little bit everytime you need to change a carto or change flavors imho it's the best out of the 3 delivery methods depending on the juice cartomizers last me between 10 days or 3 weeks.

If you want to go the RBA route, i have an AGI, a RSST and 2 IGO-L drippers. From those i'd recommend the RSST for your first RBA because it seems to me it was easier to make a good setup but i'd try one of the other alternatives i gave you above before dwelling into RBA's

Hope that helps

 

[NicoHolic]

The ECF version of "A Christmas Story" - "You'll blow your face off, kid."

Lots of beginners use a mechanical, typically with safer technology IMR batteries and 1.5Ω cartos or atty, then graduate to rebuildables. You won't blow your face off--that's just FUD mongering (Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt). You don't have to use sub-ohm coils, but you can. The OP in the sub-ohm foolishness thread is just illiterate (unknowledgable) of the subject. You can lead 'em to science, but you can't make 'em think.

Mechs are more rugged, static and EMP-proof, no electronics to fail, and can even be washed in the kitchen sink (battery removed, of course).

Visit us in the Reos Mods forum.

 

[TheDishD]

I started not that long ago (1 month) iv gone from 510 cig-alikes>eGo twists/spinners>iTaste SVD/eVic>SMOK Magneto/Sentinel Mech MOD's, to be honest i wished i just skipped straight passed the twists/spinners and gone to a VV VW device like the SVD/eVic or a Vamo. Cheap as chips (eVic i won in a contest, so not that one) both can be had for under $40, great to learn on and if you do get into Mech MODs you have back ups and atty checkers for your RBA's.
Also EVODS are really good easy to use BCC's

 

[Bill's Magic Vapor]

All clearomizers leak. And, they leak for a number of reasons, some of which can be mitigated, others accepted. If learning to prevent, and then quickly correct the leaking doesn't work for you, then I strongly suggest carto tanks. A good carto tank does not leak. When done correctly, they will allow a tank of leak free vaping every time. Of course, one has to learn to use the carto tank correctly, how to punch the carto's, etc. I learned from watching Phil Busardo's tutorial video on them, and never looked back. I don't use clearos anymore. My little Phiniac gets me going, and RBA's from time to time (but not my ADV):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEXmwnvl0gs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kCakeaVnDM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBagCO_Jit8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PICBRi37Zs0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ljqvNiASOc

Phil seemed to like them, so I tried them, and now that's pretty much what I do. Also, like the IBTanked tanks. Best to you.

 

[MJ12]

I noticed you said you had leaking with your eGo, but you didn't say what kind of atomizer you were using. The eGo-T is a battery. If you are having problems with leaking, you may just want to try a different atomizer or cartomizer.

I'd been having problems with leaking on my eGo-T battery and Vision Victory tank setup. I went back to Saffire Vapor and it turns out that I was screwing the battery on too tight to the tank. That evidently required the coil to be replaced because it wouldn't seal very well. The coil was replaced with a lower resistance one and I'm a happy vaper.

 

[pooley1542]

Hi,

I have been vaping for about 7 months now and I am so glad I found this forumn because people like the above will help you as much as they can.

I started on the Ego myself and have decided to stick with it because it seems to be the simplest. I have been toying with the idea of moving over to a VV/VW but to be honest I can get all the smoke and TH I need from just changing the ohms?

Don’t get me wrong I have had loads of problems with the Ego but after understanding what I was doing wrong I hardly ever have any now.

I have written a blog on maintenance for the Ego which covers leakage, battery and clearomizers. So if you have any more problems just have a quick look.

http://justecigs.blogspot.co.uk/

If you do decide to go for the VV/VW please let me know which model and tell me what it's like because like I said I am thinking about changing.

Thanks,

Mick

 

[Matthew Bye]

I noticed you said you had leaking with your eGo, but you didn't say what kind of atomizer you were using. The eGo-T is a battery. If you are having problems with leaking, you may just want to try a different atomizer or cartomizer.

first off its a ego-t with the tank system and the replaceable atomizers. the tanks are small and plastic and have a end cap with a hole in them and hold like 1 ml of juice and the atomizer has a spike that goes into the tank.... yeah, thats the one. i thought the ego was the batter and the ltter after was the atomizer type like ego-c (ego cartomizer) ego-t (ego tank) so on so on. ok secoondly i did buy some cartomizers for this ego battery that actually came today in the mail and i've vaped it for about 30 min now. the only bad thing is it seems to have some leaking onto my battery connection, most likely it is over filled so i will try to fill it less next time and see how these work out for me i guess. these cartomizers are the 1.7 ohms from Welcome to Crystal Clear Vaping - The vaper's choice is crystal clear called the resurecter. the seem to have a good volume of vape but nothing like i see on youtube like the guys with mods have. but this sofar seems like it could be a okay solution. if these cartos last any amount of time i might stay with it but i do like the idea of not having to keep buying atomizers or cartomizers.

 

[Fizzpop]

first off its a ego-t with the tank system and the replaceable atomizers. the tanks are small and plastic and have a end cap with a hole in them and hold like 1 ml of juice and the atomizer has a spike that goes into the tank.... yeah, thats the one. i thought the ego was the batter and the ltter after was the atomizer type like ego-c (ego cartomizer) ego-t (ego tank) so on so on. ok secoondly i did buy some cartomizers for this ego battery that actually came today in the mail and i've vaped it for about 30 min now. the only bad thing is it seems to have some leaking onto my battery connection, most likely it is over filled so i will try to fill it less next time and see how these work out for me i guess. these cartomizers are the 1.7 ohms from Welcome to Crystal Clear Vaping - The vaper's choice is crystal clear called the resurecter. the seem to have a good volume of vape but nothing like i see on youtube like the guys with mods have. but this sofar seems like it could be a okay solution. if these cartos last any amount of time i might stay with it but i do like the idea of not having to keep buying atomizers or cartomizers.

Give a Kanger T3 tank or a Kanger Protank a try (if you want a higher quality piece of hardware). If you clean the coils they last a long, long time and give a good vape:



And if you like, you can rebuild them:

Rebuilding Kanger Coils

As far as other rebuildables go, don't get me wrong. I LOVE my Genesis style atomizer. Great, great vape and I love only needing to buy wicks and wire for it. That being said, Genesis tanks are best in front of the computer or on the couch; not a great carry around solution. I do, however, recommend them for perhaps the best vaping experience available. The only thing that gives a better vape is dripping, and a rebuildable dripper is less money and easy to rebuild. Downside, of course is having to drip constantly, although there are bottom feeders that "automate" this a bit, but then you are talking more serious money. I still toss in for buying a $10 rebuildable dripper to try first.

 

[yaypudding]

got the svd and the tank which came with a lr carto for around $60

svd from fasttech and the pyrex carto tank from valleyvapes.com

this is a great and easy setup. when the carto goes, just replace it, and with a vv/vw mod like the SVD you can dial in on your flavor.

 

[Fizzpop]

The ECF version of "A Christmas Story" - "You'll blow your face off, kid."

Lots of beginners use a mechanical, typically with safer technology IMR batteries and 1.5Ω cartos or atty, then graduate to rebuildables. You won't blow your face off--that's just FUD mongering (Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt). You don't have to use sub-ohm coils, but you can. The OP in the sub-ohm foolishness thread is just illiterate (unknowledgable) of the subject. You can lead 'em to science, but you can't make 'em think.

Mechs are more rugged, static and EMP-proof, no electronics to fail, and can even be washed in the kitchen sink (battery removed, of course).

Visit us in the Reos Mods forum.

Emphasis mine:

Those who understand their battery's Amperage, Ohm's law, and how to combine that with a (safe) resistance love mechnanicals for their Spartan simplicity, but mechanicals can be very dangerous if you don't have that understanding.

 

[smjcfree]

I love the ego products! I have used them for over a year and some clearomizer are better then others (leaking and burnt taste) stick with it though! I have not smoked in three years and feel great! I just moved up to a mod kit (VMax) and love it!!!

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

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[NicoHolic]

Emphasis mine:

...help prevent you blowing your face off.

 

[Fizzpop]

Emphasis mine:

My point was (and remains) that a hard short on a high power battery can be dangerous. For those who know what you are doing, vape on. I do, however, think that warning new vapors, particularly those talking about sub-ohm when they are having trouble with much simpler setups, about the potential for possibly injuring themselves if they don't have things setup properly is the responsible thing to do.