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i started vaping month ago and quit analogs within couple days. i have really liked it and want to get my mother into it. she smokes virginia slims and is at pack a day +. techno gadgets are not her forte and intimidate her. i really want to get her to switch even if she never quits. want to get her a bullet proof set-up that is easy and very little maintenance. she is diabetic so that can be a factor from what i hear. so what im looking at now is ego batteries but not sure what to top it off with. i never got into tobacco flavors and my daily vape is a chia tea i get local. any recommendations for juice and carto or clearo to get that will be easy to use?
 
Having (and still am) going through this with my mother a lot has to do with her age and abilities. My mom is 72 and not in great shape, with bad sight and very shaky hands. That rules out some setups right away as well as some techniques.

Because she has a choice in rehab of a patch vs a PV she went with the PV and I got her a very cheap (as in blister pack cheap) ego knock off with some CE4s, a couple of syringe topped bottles (no way she was not putting it in the center hole without the syringe to get the juice down the side) and went from there. I would have gotten her a more expensive set up but she drops things more than she holds on to them and her room has tile floors. The one I got I know from personal experience can take a beating and if she drops it enough (which she will - you won't believe the number of cell phones she goes through) to break it the replacement cost isn't something to whine about. I went with CE4's simple because they were cheap enough to be disposable and not have to face her with things like cleaning and maintenance and replacing heads, etc. Rinsing a CE$ and letting it air dry over night is just right for her.

She really wanted a 'cig like' set up but having to refill the tanks or the expense of pre-fills just were going to do it, although it probably would have made the switch easier for her because she likes the feel of a cigarette and the emphasis she can make with it in her hand when talking.

Just my opinion but I would start her out with a CE4 and then see how she does. Its a good starting place I think and give her some experience to work off of - deciding what she likes/does not like about it. That way you are not investing a bunch of money is something advanced and fancy that she sets aside and never uses or is too complicated for her. The CE4/CE5 does a great vape for what it is and while its not the epitome of the vaping experience it does a good job for the beginner and/or causal vaper, as well as being easy to use. You can always move up if it works out.

As for juice, thats so subjective. Some people find starting with a tobacco flavor the best way to go - others absolutely hate it and all ranges in between. This might be a really good use for buying a sample pack from a vendor that allows you to choose the flavors in the sample. I have seen them range from 5 bottles of 5 flavors up to 20 so you should have a good choice of different flavors for her to try. I started my mom on a 5 pack with a tobacco flavor, a drink flavor, a fruit flavor, a candy flavor and a 'bakery' flavor. Surprisingly she ended up liking the coffee flavor the best - thought she would go for the tobacco - so I am glad she had a choice. Turned out her second favorite was one I never liked (a candy flavor) so it goes to show how difficult is is to juice shop for someone else. Gift certificates please :)

AS for the diabetes I was a type 2 diabetic before I started vaping. Not claiming at all that vaping cured me but it improved my health and I lost weight and exercised a lot more and now have an AC1 of 5.5 (nondiabetic level) and am off all medication and diet etc. I don't know the risks with vaping and diabetes unless people are concerned about the sweeteners added (although most are not pure glucose but other natural sugars that diabetics use anyway as sugar replacers). If there are risks that you have read about I would really urge you to talk with her doctor about them before she takes up vaping because if it can impact her negatively that is not good. In my case the changes in my health were gradual but it did get to the point where I has episodes of low blood sugar because of the medication I was taking and I had to stop taking it. Myself, I never noticed blood sugar spikes related to vaping and at one point I was testing regularly 8 times a day - around a great deal of vaping. Everyone is different as is how things impact them so its worth being vigilant and getting some medical advice or at least letting the doctor know what changes she is going to be making.
 
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I know I'm going to get bashed for this, but as an older lady (not techo intimidated but I understand the mindset), I would suggest you set your mum up with a nice little cigalike rechargeable battery, a charger, and a sampler pack of prefilled cartos to start off with. These are the lowest maintenance, least intimidating vapes available (and most like what she's used to). If she takes to it, you could get her some juice in the flavor she likes, and a few clearos. After all that, when she's comfortable with vaping, you could think of introducing her to eGos, tanks, etc.

But before you do that, I strongly urge you to research vaping for diabetics. Do a forum search, google it, and check with her doctor if she's lucky enough to have one who's familiar with electronic cigarettes.
 

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As for juice, thats so subjective. Some people find starting with a tobacco flavor the best way to go - others absolutely hate it and all ranges in between.

Yeah, opinions are all over the place on this. My angle is that it's probably best to at least start with something that is as close to what she's giving up as you can possibly get. The idea is to trick the brain into thinking that nothing has changed; that this is the same flavor and sensation as always.

Older folks are set in their ways. Change comes with a lot of difficulty and usually a lot of older folk orneriness. If you start someone like that off with Sara Lee rather than Phillip Morris, chances are that it ain't gonna work. That doesn't mean a sample pack shouldn't include something fruity, chocolate or refreshing. It's just that when they want to smoke, they want something that tastes like what they were smoking. At least for a little while.
 

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I'm not technology challenged myself, but I've been researching starter kits with the idea of getting one for an older lady I know. 2 ideas for you.

1 - pre-filled cartos. The jetcigs ones i tried were pretty good. Here's the thread I started on pre-filled cartos http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/cartomizers/410700-there-any-good-pre-filled-510-cartos.html

2 - A kanger Evod starter kit Kanger E-VOD Starter kit, Kanger EVOD clearomizer, Kanger eVod Cartomizer. It's more stylish looking than generic egos IMO.
and show her these videos to get her started
Vapor Lady Lounge Kanger eVod eCigarette Review eCig Starter Kit Unboxing For Ladies - YouTube
Vapor Lady Lounge Reviewing Kanger eVod How to Properly Vape and Fill the eCig eCigarette for Ladies - YouTube
 
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I'm a little old lady - 60 - and not particularly technologically challenged. As a member of the older bunch, I kinda resent the implication that I am set in my ways and ornery. I'm just ornery, thank you very much. I started vaping a month ago, with an Ego type battery and generic CE4s and whatever nicotine juice I could find. No problems. I now have an iTaste VV on order with Kanger ProTanks...

However, seriously, if your Mom is having coordination problems, then you both need to find a setup she can physically handle. I say "you both" for a reason! It has got to be her choice and her way, or it won't work and it won't be very respectful, either! Try out the Blu types and the clearo types. Get her samples. Do it together!

I remember my Mom with great love - she wasn't 'ornery', she just knew what she liked and what she wanted, the way she had always led her life.
 

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I'm a little old lady - 60 - and not particularly technologically challenged. As a member of the older bunch, I kinda resent the implication that I am set in my ways and ornery. I'm just ornery, thank you very much. I started vaping a month ago, with an Ego type battery and generic CE4s and whatever nicotine juice I could find. No problems. I now have an iTaste VV on order with Kanger ProTanks...

However, seriously, if your Mom is having coordination problems, then you both need to find a setup she can physically handle. I say "you both" for a reason! It has got to be her choice and her way, or it won't work and it won't be very respectful, either! Try out the Blu types and the clearo types. Get her samples. Do it together!

I remember my Mom with great love - she wasn't 'ornery', she just knew what she liked and what she wanted, the way she had always led her life.


OMG, 60 is old? I thought 60 was the new 30 -- what am I doing wrong?? :)
 

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Well - I really don't like to think of myself as "older" but I guess at 58 I am headed there. However, I am not technology challenged either. I started with a cig-a-like and within 3 weeks moved up to an eGo Twist. I have used CE4s, Vivi Novas, Kanger T2, T3, EVOD and Protank.

I now also have an eRoll and just got my new Evic yesterday. However, I have two friends one 59 and the other 66 and there is no way either one would consider even using a 650mAh eGo twist with a CE4. Both have told me that it "looks" way to complicated :facepalm:

Since I have used the eRoll around both of theses friends, one is now using an eRoll kit that I had to order for her - because even buying it on-line was to complicated for her. I showed her how to fill the cartridges and went thru cleaning the cartridges and the attys. She has not completely quit smoking yet - but is using the eRoll more and more and does really like it.

The other friend (the 59 yr old) just saw me with the eRoll last week and has expressed interest in possibly trying one. I as well have 27 yr old and 33 yr old sons also were not interested in even trying the eGo size and are both using eRolls now too. Neither of them have completely quit smoking either - so I am not sure if the eRoll is actually enough to get them there - but for now at least they are trying.

Lots of good advice already - but thought I would share my story and what has worked for this "older" lady and my one "older" technology challenged lady friend. Oh and I started vaping just to try to cut down on a 1 1/2 PAD habit and actually found I enjoyed vaping more and ended up quitting. I hope you can find something that will work for your Mom and good for you trying to help her :toast:
 

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Based on the palsy and dropping I am going to put in a suggestion for those huge smok cartos that are about the size of an ego by itself. You just pull off the plastic tip to fill and it would be way easy to fill for her because the hole at the top is so wide. It will not break if you drop it and unless it gets over filled it does not leak.
 

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I started with, then handed off to my mom (she's 56) my white cloud cigalike kit. I have to say this, WC makes a good product and it lasted a good long time for me and price wasn't too bad and there were several flavors.
Down side is the kits are kinda $$ compared to a ego and ce4 or evod.

I passed on my kit of 3 batteries and around 20 carts and some of my flings and mom has been using and liking them and she's getting off smokes too. if she was closer however, I'm pretty sure i'd have her on my egos and evods by now. She's 16hrs away however so she can't stop by for troubleshooting.

I'd reccomend WC if you go for a cigalike tho, I gave away all my flings to mom, but i'm planning on buying a few more to keep in my accessories bag in my laptop bag....incase the tragic happens or a newbie wants it.

Standard egos and evod would be what I'd reccomend for simple but a tiny bit more advanced. work great.
 

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I'm going to lose points saying this (women keep score), but my wife is one of those technology challenged ladies (but only early 60's). We both started with cig-a-likes and cartos. I've gone on to bigger, badder and more shiny objects, but she happily uses her smaller ego-style 650 batts and simple cartos. She does use the ego styles on a passthru at times. After a few trials with clearos, she always goes back to cartos. She has no problems keeping her cartos topped off although I refilled them for her for the first month or so.
 

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My daughter isn't technology-challenged, and she isn't old. But, she is very, very busy and stressed. So, most set-ups are too much trouble for her. She thought she would like 808's, but found that it was too much trouble to pay attention to when they needed to be topped off.

What works for her is an eGo battery with a CE4. It's disposable, easy to use, and easy to know when to refill without having to pay too much attention to it.
 

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i think i will just sit down with her and let her ..... some flavors for a sample pack deal. let her check out the evod kit and eroll and pick which she would like to try. she can learn stuff but is put off if she doesnt know how to use it. bought her a laptop couple years ago and she has gotten good at it now. only got in trouble once that i know of. thank you for all the help and hopefully i can get her going soon.
 

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So much depends on the physical/mental condition of the OP's mother and what help is available. I'm a nurse who works with older adults and their abilities can vary wildly.

As a quick example, shaky hands are very common, which can make it impossible to refill some things. On the other hand, if there is someone available that can refill a bunch of clearos at a time for her, they may be very workable.
 

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Older folks are set in their ways. Change comes with a lot of difficulty and usually a lot of older folk orneriness. If you start someone like that off with Sara Lee rather than Phillip Morris, chances are that it ain't gonna work. That doesn't mean a sample pack shouldn't include something fruity, chocolate or refreshing. It's just that when they want to smoke, they want something that tastes like what they were smoking. At least for a little while.

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