I did see some suggestions to drip onto the coil, however, I did not see that in the manual for the nautilus so I did not drip any. But I let it sit all night before even touching it. Was smoking the rest of my analog pack. So it should have been good and wet. The manual for kanger did tell me to and I did three drops. Also let that sit for a good five minutes. I am not getting a high from the 24mg and I am not craving analog big time. Just slightly. So I hate to lower the 24. It might also be the liquid itself. Will have to try another brand. But need to use this first. It wasn't expensive but no sense in throwing it away for such a piddly reason.
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I did see some suggestions to drip onto the coil, however, I did not see that in the manual for the nautilus so I did not drip any. But I let it sit all night before even touching it. Was smoking the rest of my analog pack. So it should have been good and wet. The manual for kanger did tell me to and I did three drops. Also let that sit for a good five minutes. I am not getting a high from the 24mg and I am not craving analog big time. Just slightly. So I hate to lower the 24. It might also be the liquid itself. Will have to try another brand. But need to use this first. It wasn't expensive but no sense in throwing it away for such a piddly reason.
That is partially where I messed up. I wanted to try the tiger's blood but not mess with cleaning the tank and trying to save the juice I had in there. Smart would have said to try the same flavor in both. Both tanks are fine for me though. I have really no complaints. I will likely stick with nautilus because it is cheaper and seems to be comparable to me. I also saw some vendors that have a mix of 25% Water. Why? What is the benefit of water? I'd think it would either evaporate before you got it or just be steam and kill some of the flavor. Either way... I don't see benefit. Except maybe to lower nicotine content but the total of the bottle is the same. So again... I am not seeing it.
I believe the water is to thin out the VG (VG is extremely thick) without using PG. There are some people who are allergic to PG. Perhaps you might want to try going with a higher VG juice. Maybe the sting on your tongue is telling you that you have a slight sensitivity to PG? I read that flavorings are always in a PG base, so it is impossible to totally eliminate PG. And you are correct that mixing in distilled water to juice would dilute the nicotine content.
It sounds like the 24 mg is the right concentration for you right now. You will get cravings for analogs, but the important thing is whether vaping can get you past the cravings. If that can happen, you shouldn't have a problem in quitting analogs altogether.
No, that's not enough PG to "bite"; it's that 24mg nicotine. If you want lower nic but still want "bite," you have to go to AT LEAST 80% PG, though 85% is even better. I've never been a high-nic vaper, anything over 11mg makes me queasy, but I gotta have my throat hit (the "bite", the tingle in the throat), so I use 83%-84% PG, and also an additive called "Flash" which reinforces the "nic bite" (TH) even with low nicotine. Oh, I also use "Throat Hit Nicotine" from VapersTek.
Andria
No, it's the other way around actually; PG carries flavor much better, or maybe just mixes easier so you get the "full flavor" instead of flavor pockets from the thick VG not mixing well.
Andria
It seems like the 24 mg is high enough to help curb her cravings though, so should she go with a lower nic content, but accept that she will need to vape way more often (to get the same overall nic intake)? She said that the 24 mg isn't high enough where she is getting sick from it. So I guess that is the trade off?
Exactly, I don't want to fall backwards. I have the option to do the analog but I am equally satisfied with the vapor. I have access to a cigarette right now but not feeling crazy feigning enough to go for it. And I don't really like the tongue bite actually. I am kind of the opposite of what you had written Andria. I like the nic content but not the tongue bite. But the bite is not quite enough to really be a big deal. It feels the same in my throat but that comes with smoking analogs and it doesn't bother me at all really. Meaning I am not upset enough to go looking for a solution for the tongue bite thing but I am curious.
Jseah,
You said sizzle. at 3.4 I get a single crackle after a couple seconds but I noticed that single crackle means I need to get off the button. Cause at that crackle point I am likely to cough. So turn it down or leave it? Am I creating more wear and tear or damage by letting it get that dry? I suppose I could turn it down one point or so without suffering much but figured I would ask. =)
ETA: You said sizzle not crackle. Either way lol.
Try turning it down and see how that is like for you. You might be drawing longer than I normally do. When I vape, the iStick tells me that my vape typically lasts about 3 seconds, plus or minus half a second. How long does your vape last? The higher the power and the longer the vape, the greater chance that you will vape the coil dry. The juice may also be a bit warmer and the taste will change accordingly (start to taste a little heated towards burning). I personally prefer a cooler vape so my power settings will be lower than other people.
And is this with the Nautilus or the Subtank Mini? The Subtank Mini is run at a higher power, so the sizzle is much more noticeable. I also noticed that if I run the Subtank Mini at a lower power (i.e. 9 watts), it would pop like crazy.
Ok, that's cool then. For me, when I first started, I was vaping *CONSTANTLY* -- it was new and novel and very cool to not need to go out and freeze just to feel like I was "smoking," and with that kind of constant use, I had to go all the way down to 6mg or it made me really ill -- now that I don't have that new/novel thing going on, I'm good at 10mg-ish, because sometimes I do actually put it down!
And for me, the nicotine is the least of my concerns -- I gotta have the TH or I'm just not satisfied, and I get most of what I apparently *need* from WTA -- if it was possible to get WTA without nicotine, I'd probably do just fine with that, but I guess I'll never know for sure on that since WTA is 95% nicotine anyway.Having the option to smoke if you really need to, that's priceless -- even after nearly 8 months smoke-free, I still have my last pk in a ziplock in the freezer, just so that vaping remains my free choice. That pk may stay in there until it turns into a tobacco ice cube.
But if that pk was gone, panic would ensue, then rage, to have my freewill so trampled. And I'm pretty dang sure I'd go get some cigarettes and probably smoke at least some of them. I'll just hang on to that last freezer pk, so I never need to go there again.Andria
Having the option to smoke if you really need to, that's priceless -- even after nearly 8 months smoke-free, I still have my last pk in a ziplock in the freezer, just so that vaping remains my free choice. That pk may stay in there until it turns into a tobacco ice cube.
I don't have any emergency supply to fall back on, and I'm too lazy to make the drive to the store to pick up a pack but that's not necessarily a bad thing. I know if I had some analogs, I would smoke them because it would feel like they are going to waste if I don't.
The easy way to transition from smoking to vaping is NOT to try quitting cigarettes right away. Just vape and allow yourself to have a cigarette if the urge gets too strong. Over time you will begin to realize that the vape tastes good and the cigarettes really tastes kind of nasty. Not trying to quit relieves a lot of the stress because you know you can have one if you want to.
The first week I vaped I suddenly realized by the end of that week I was down to about 6 cigarettes a day. I was smoking a couple with coffee in the mornings and one after each meal. The rest of the time I was playing with my new ecig and forgot to smoke. That was on 24mg nic juice. I continued to vape and smoke about 6 cigs a day until one day when I decided it was ridiculous to smoke any at all. I started vaping with my after meal cigarette and alternating hits from one to the other. The vapor tasted good and the cigarette tasted like an ashtray in comparison. That's when I decided that the pack I had just opened would be my last. It was and I never had a desire to smoke again.
I vape about 6 - 7 ml a day of 80pg/20vg juice.
The first week I vaped I suddenly realized by the end of that week I was down to about 6 cigarettes a day. I was smoking a couple with coffee in the mornings and one after each meal. The rest of the time I was playing with my new ecig and forgot to smoke. That was on 24mg nic juice. I continued to vape and smoke about 6 cigs a day until one day when I decided it was ridiculous to smoke any at all. I started vaping with my after meal cigarette and alternating hits from one to the other. The vapor tasted good and the cigarette tasted like an ashtray in comparison. That's when I decided that the pack I had just opened would be my last. It was and I never had a desire to smoke again.
I vape about 6 - 7 ml a day of 80pg/20vg juice.
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Hi from Katy, TX!!! 2 months, 17 days smoke free with vaping! Stop by Tiki Vapors on Mason and ask for Matt, he's great and set me up with a new vaping set last night. I'm not a menthol person, so can't recommend and flavors like that, but their Chai Tea kicks a**!!!!!!
That last part is why I put them in the freezer, they're out of sight/out of mind most of the time; I only see them when I'm adding or removing from my nic stash; the bag is behind my boxful of nicotine -- and the fact that they're sealed in a ziplock, in the freezer, keeps them viable *in my mind* even if not in reality. For me it's simply that I was so *attached* to them for 3/4 of my life; even though I have no desire any longer to smoke them, to not have them at all is just a bit more than I can deal with -- and *having* them isn't hurting me, it's the smoking that would hurt me.
Our son was this way when he finally parted from his security blanket as a small child; we washed it and folded it away into a box and taped it closed -- sometimes he'd just look at the box, and be reassured that everything was cool, we still had his precious "taugie" (his baby word for it!). And I think we still have it, taped in that box.
It's an emotional attachment, not really "addiction" per se, but a part of it, perhaps.Andria
That last part is why I put them in the freezer, they're out of sight/out of mind most of the time; I only see them when I'm adding or removing from my nic stash; the bag is behind my boxful of nicotine -- and the fact that they're sealed in a ziplock, in the freezer, keeps them viable *in my mind* even if not in reality. For me it's simply that I was so *attached* to them for 3/4 of my life; even though I have no desire any longer to smoke them, to not have them at all is just a bit more than I can deal with -- and *having* them isn't hurting me, it's the smoking that would hurt me.
Our son was this way when he finally parted from his security blanket as a small child; we washed it and folded it away into a box and taped it closed -- sometimes he'd just look at the box, and be reassured that everything was cool, we still had his precious "taugie" (his baby word for it!). And I think we still have it, taped in that box.
Andria
I totally understand the whole attachment thing. There were times when I felt that analogs were the only things that I could depend on...LOL. My daughter had her own baby blanket....some pink and white one with little flowers on one side and hearts on the other that we got at Gymboree. She literally loved it to pieces....with the final piece being a strip of cloth that she would wrap around her head like a babushka when she slept when she was around 12.
Jseah,
I am using the subtank cause I like the tiger's blood and had that on when I left the house to do dad's birthday lunch. I actually like the warmth a bit. But my vape is short. 1.8 - 2 seconds. The pop happens about 1.7. Two holes exposed. It was reading 1.3 ohms earlier but is now 1.2 and 3.4v. I did back it off to 3.2 but it was cool and I got less flavor and I was just hitting it longer still going to the pop. Either way I seem to find the satisfaction when it hits the pop. Amount of vapor / flavor / heat / whatever that point is that I am liking. It still hits the pop. But at 3.2 or 3.0 or anywhere in between (lower than 3.4) it just takes longer to get the pop. So basically I am doing / getting the same thing. Just faster at 3.4 than 3.2. IDK if any of that makes sense. It does in my head but translating it is a little iffy. LOL
Edit to fix pop timing. Not that it matters to be exact I suppose but wanted to be accurate.
I am using the subtank cause I like the tiger's blood and had that on when I left the house to do dad's birthday lunch. I actually like the warmth a bit. But my vape is short. 1.8 - 2 seconds. The pop happens about 1.7. Two holes exposed. It was reading 1.3 ohms earlier but is now 1.2 and 3.4v. I did back it off to 3.2 but it was cool and I got less flavor and I was just hitting it longer still going to the pop. Either way I seem to find the satisfaction when it hits the pop. Amount of vapor / flavor / heat / whatever that point is that I am liking. It still hits the pop. But at 3.2 or 3.0 or anywhere in between (lower than 3.4) it just takes longer to get the pop. So basically I am doing / getting the same thing. Just faster at 3.4 than 3.2. IDK if any of that makes sense. It does in my head but translating it is a little iffy. LOL
Edit to fix pop timing. Not that it matters to be exact I suppose but wanted to be accurate.
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Ok, that's cool then. For me, when I first started, I was vaping *CONSTANTLY* -- it was new and novel and very cool to not need to go out and freeze just to feel like I was "smoking," and with that kind of constant use, I had to go all the way down to 6mg or it made me really ill -- now that I don't have that new/novel thing going on, I'm good at 10mg-ish, because sometimes I do actually put it down!
Having the option to smoke if you really need to, that's priceless -- even after nearly 8 months smoke-free, I still have my last pk in a ziplock in the freezer, just so that vaping remains my free choice. That pk may stay in there until it turns into a tobacco ice cube.
Andria
I am hitting it constantly as well. I hold it in until there is no vapor to exhale. (I joint hit my cigarettes also. Nasty habit. I haven't touched weed since I was a kid and the day I found out I was pregnant with my daughter I stopped everything illegal. ....... was my DOC. But whatever, not the point. I just hold in and absorb all the nicotine I can is the point.) But I take only like 1.8 - 2 second draws. I know you would usually do longer but if I go longer I will start coughing because I am trying to get a tight draw and I like the heat I am getting. Or I would get air if I changed it and that isn't satisfying so I would seek the stupid smokes for that satisfaction. I did smoke a few cigarettes today. I have no idea why but around my family I kind of felt weird bringing it out. They are used to the cigarettes (but hate them and would be thrilled to see that I am choosing the vapor instead of smoking). I guess it was just a psychological thing for me. I realized that I actually liked the vapor more today. Given the choice I would pick vapor but I didn't in that situation. Plus I had to carry it. I couldn't put it in my pocket but I could easily put cigarettes in my pocket. So I am looking for a nice rigid holster? type thing I can lanyard around my neck and not risk dropping or have to carry around. No excuses then. So I screwed up and did analogs but I am happy to know that my preference is vapor and that I *know* it is easier. Also, even backing off the analogs is a huge step for me and I am sure that I will continue to do so. The analogs allowed me to get away also. Because I know my family doesn't like the smoke I could use that as an excuse and walk off. Sometimes my lovely sister drives me nuts. She is incredibly dependent on me and yet hard headed and independent. So she wants my help, but wont take it, but needs me to do whatever (take the inside of her van door off and fix the handle cable), but will complain that she has to go ( even though it took 20 minutes tops), but wont stop complaining that she needs it done desperately, but wont help me do it, then is upset that I didn't somehow load her kids clothes into the dryer while I was outside fixing her van, but feels bad that I am doing it, but... OMG!!! UGH!! I need a walk! Back in a few. =P Sooo... yeah. Today was fun. =)
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Agreed! I spent $6 or more on these. Might as well smoke them and then I will have none and won't screw up and smoke them. Then I get to a point that I "just want one" and fight about buying an entire pack for one. Which was my issue today. Then the cycle begins again. Not having any this morning was awesome. I didn't smoke one until noon or so. Which is a looooongg time to go for me. A few months ago, I went back and forth to my truck every 5-10 minutes smoking until finally I just sat in my truck all day and chain smoked using the wifi to job search. Seriously? You were that lazy Pam? Yup... it's a long walk to the truck. Like 50 feet or something crazy. =P
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