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Cool. Thanks Andria! As I said earlier, I am still looking around at the tube style choices so any votes help out quite a bit. So many options to choose from, it makes it difficult to narrow down without experienced voices helping. I appreciate you guys so much for taking the time to respond.

The titanium Provaris look damn sexy, but the idea of paying $300 for a tube mod and then have to pay extra for batteries doesn't appeal to me. I will readily admit I have a weakness for shiny things, but even I have my limits.
 

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If your using tanks like the Nautilus where you wouldn't ever push it past 20 or 30 watts, isn't a mod that pushes out 150 watts overkill? You really wouldn't need a mod like the Sigelei unless you were sub ohming and needed all that extra wattage, right?

The max wattage of a zmax v5 is 15 watts.
 

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If your using tanks like the Nautilus where you wouldn't ever push it past 20 or 30 watts, isn't a mod that pushes out 150 watts overkill? You really wouldn't need a mod like the Sigelei unless you were sub ohming and needed all that extra wattage, right?

No idea why anyone would want anything over 20w, honestly; none of mine go over 15w, and that's more than adequate for most; it's *just* adequate with my Vamo, which seems a bit underpowered compared to the sigelei, which I've never taken over 12w. But their low wattage is why they're so cheap nowadays.

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The titanium Provaris look damn sexy, but the idea of paying $300 for a tube mod and then have to pay extra for batteries doesn't appeal to me. I will readily admit I have a weakness for shiny things, but even I have my limits.

Lol I almost got one though. Out of all the options out there and reviews I could find, it was the only one that didn't really have many negatives. Other than price anyway. Really the iStick is fairly small. It's at least smaller than I thought it was. I even looked in the local shop at once and I could have sworn theirs was bigger. I almost don't think I would have a problem using this full time and skipping over the tube entirely. If there were something amazing out as an option that was a little more reasonable in price I may be saying differently. But at this point...

ETA: It was also one of the few ready made tube mods that did both sub and non sub. And the Celtic knot design is pretty. =) The range is soo much smaller than the iStick or ipv mini II though so that was also a turn off. I can get six more iSticks for that price.
 
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With the iStick set in voltage mode and the Nautilus tank, I currently have it set at 4.3V (which translates to just over 9 watts). I had it at 5V before, but I found that if I was chain vaping, by the 5th or 6th vape it tasted like the juice was starting to overheat. Lower and the juice isn't being converted to vapor quick enough.

4.3v puts mine at 8.8w. Is that alright? You said just over 9. Or did you mean just *under* 9? Asking because I don't know. Not to correct you. I just want to make sure my device doesn't have a glaring issue I wouldn't know anything about. =/ Thanks hun. My dumb ... pushed and held the fire button at 50w to start because I couldn't remember how to switch to v. UGH! =(
 

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4.3v puts mine at 8.8w. Is that alright? You said just over 9. Or did you mean just *under* 9? Asking because I don't know. Not to correct you. I just want to make sure my device doesn't have a glaring issue I wouldn't know anything about. =/ Thanks hun. My dumb ... pushed and held the fire button at 50w to start because I couldn't remember how to switch to v. UGH! =(

I think that wattage is fine. The wattage will vary based on the coil. I have the 1.8 ohm coil, but my iStick is detecting it as 2 ohms. Basically, for the given resistance on the coil, you set the voltage and the iStick sets the wattage or vice versa. If you're setting the voltage at 4.3 volts and the iStick is setting the wattage at 8.8, that means the iStick is detecting your coil as 2.1 ohms.

4.3 x 4.3 divided by 2.1 = 8.8 watts

You should expect that it may show a slight variance in the detected resistance. Now if you are using a 1.8 ohm coil and it is being detected as a 5 ohm coil, then you should worry.
 

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No idea why anyone would want anything over 20w, honestly; none of mine go over 15w, and that's more than adequate for most; it's *just* adequate with my Vamo, which seems a bit underpowered compared to the sigelei, which I've never taken over 12w. But their low wattage is why they're so cheap nowadays.

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OK. I guess I was confusing it with those 150 watt mods that people keep talking about. And it seems that for some people the more watts the better.
 

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OK. I guess I was confusing it with those 150 watt mods that people keep talking about. And it seems that for some people the more watts the better.

Well, I'm sure eventually I'll have something higher than 15w, it seems inevitable, the way the technology is growing. And when I do get something higher powered, it'll very likely be a Sigelei, I'm so pleased with the zmax. Maybe a 30w or something like that. I don't cloud chase, got asthma, and I like tightish mouth-to-lung hits, since that's how I smoked, and single-coil kayfuns and my magma, so I really don't need that much power.

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Well, I'm sure eventually I'll have something higher than 15w, it seems inevitable, the way the technology is growing. And when I do get something higher powered, it'll very likely be a Sigelei, I'm so pleased with the zmax. Maybe a 30w or something like that. I don't cloud chase, got asthma, and I like tightish mouth-to-lung hits, since that's how I smoked, and single-coil kayfuns and my magma, so I really don't need that much power.

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I'm sure it is probably just a matter of time until someone start vaping with something like this. Will generate crazy clouds.....as long as you don't cross the streams.

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Sub ohming might not be necessary. High nicotine is what works. You can get huge clouds from 30W or less. Throat hit is dependent upon PG content and nic level.

Try some 80pg/20vg or 70pg/30vg juice at 24mg or 36mg levels. Look at juices that are in the cowboy genre.

If you want throat hit and cigarette style flavor, try Halo Torque56 from Halo ejuices. It's the closest thing to standing in the break area at work and sniffing the aroma of actual cigarettes. There's throat hit, cigarette flavor, and the feel of a real cigarette in Torque56. You might also want to try their tobacco sample pack to see how all the cigarette flavored juices compare.

Halo E Liquid | Premium Smoke Juice
 

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All the members advice is great but you must commit to quit the analogs. That is the most important part of your journey.

Smoked the last one I had last night. Woke up this morning thinking about going to get more. Before I even woke up I was already planning the store. Wth... dreaming about damn cigarettes.*sigh* I haven't hit the store yet. I am using my new toy. =) It's been over an hour and haven't gone to the gas station so that is definitely *some* progress. I guess.
 
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Gurgling means that more juice is getting to the coil than the coil can vaporize it. The sound you hear should be somewhere in between the gurgle and a sizzle (if you can picture that). The sizzle would mean that the coil is vaporizing it quicker than the juice can coat the coil. What is your iStick settings at? Try turning up the power a bit. Is it generating vapor at all?
 

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Smoked the last one I had last night. Woke up this morning thinking about going to get more. Before I even woke up I was already planning the store. Wth... dreaming about damn cigarettes.*sigh* I haven't hit the store yet. I am using my new toy. =) It's been over an hour and haven't gone to the gas station so that is definitely *some* progress. I guess.

Ha, the cig dream. Funny, everytime I've tried to quit in the past I got this on day 1,2 or 3, along with nightmares varying in their hilarity. Oddly though, I always felt rather refreshed when I woke up after that dream. That and hitting day 2 and visiting the bathroom every 5 minutes.

Keep that water nearby so you don't dehydrate. Best of luck! Glad your equipment is working.

So tempted to pick up an iStick 50w with that insane battery life now.

I'd be interested to hear how you get on with the Subtank if you mouth to lung. Is that viable with the Subtank Mini, or is the draw too loose?
 

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Ha, the cig dream. Funny, everytime I've tried to quit in the past I got this on day 1,2 or 3, along with nightmares varying in their hilarity. Oddly though, I always felt rather refreshed when I woke up after that dream. That and hitting day 2 and visiting the bathroom every 5 minutes.

Keep that water nearby so you don't dehydrate. Best of luck! Glad your equipment is working.

So tempted to pick up an iStick 50w with that insane battery life now.

I'd be interested to hear how you get on with the Subtank if you mouth to lung. Is that viable with the Subtank Mini, or is the draw too loose?

The battery life with the iStick 50 is incredible. I vape 3-3.5 ml a day and it lasts me a week between charges. I charged it up last Thursday and when I went to bed this past Thursday, the battery gauge showed empty (but I still had not gotten the low battery warning), so I plugged it back in to charge overnight. When I tried the Subtank Mini, I found the draw too loose. That's why I'm no longer using it and am using the Nautilus instead.
 

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Sub ohming might not be necessary. High nicotine is what works. You can get huge clouds from 30W or less. Throat hit is dependent upon PG content and nic level.

Try some 80pg/20vg or 70pg/30vg juice at 24mg or 36mg levels. Look at juices that are in the cowboy genre.

If you want throat hit and cigarette style flavor, try Halo Torque56 from Halo ejuices. It's the closest thing to standing in the break area at work and sniffing the aroma of actual cigarettes. There's throat hit, cigarette flavor, and the feel of a real cigarette in Torque56. You might also want to try their tobacco sample pack to see how all the cigarette flavored juices compare.

Halo E Liquid | Premium Smoke Juice

I don't really want tobacco flavor. But I do want flavor. I have been using the nautilus this morning with "fire and ice" 50%/50% 24mg. It's gotten me through a few hours. But it doesn't have flavor. I finally got too curious and busted out the subtank. Put the 1.2 in and tiger's blood, 24mg, 50%/50%. I am wanting to "drink" flavor. Both are alright. But very muted. The tiger's blood definitely has more. I am wondering if the ratio is the cause for the idk "bite"? I feel on my tongue? Still no store yet. I guess that's something useful.
 

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Gurgling means that more juice is getting to the coil than the coil can vaporize it. The sound you hear should be somewhere in between the gurgle and a sizzle (if you can picture that). The sizzle would mean that the coil is vaporizing it quicker than the juice can coat the coil. What is your iStick settings at? Try turning up the power a bit. Is it generating vapor at all?

I brought up that colored chart and messed around with the stick, keeping it in the green. I took nautilus apart and q-tipped it out. Put back together. The gurgling went away at some point though not due to me cleaning it. I feel a slight sting on tongue so I have kind of transitioned direct to lung half the time. I am definitely not consistent.
 

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I'd be interested to hear how you get on with the Subtank if you mouth to lung. Is that viable with the Subtank Mini, or is the draw too loose?

At the full open it is MUCH too loose but the lower two are fine for mouth to lung. For me the subtank (and nautilus) would allow for direct lung or mouth to lung. I have used both and can't seem to be consistent with my draw yet. Just playing with settings and trying to find the sweet spot. Haven't gone sub at all yet. I can't even give that a fair run unless I have the rest sorted. :)

Eta: I may be imagining it but it seems like there is a significant difference in draw when you change voltage. This does make sense to me though. If the vapor is warmer (higher voltage) it is easier to get. = Easier draw. More flavor too definitely. The warmth seems to carry more for me.
 
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I brought up that colored chart and messed around with the stick, keeping it in the green. I took nautilus apart and q-tipped it out. Put back together. The gurgling went away at some point though not due to me cleaning it. I feel a slight sting on tongue so I have kind of transitioned direct to lung half the time. I am definitely not consistent.

With the gurgling going away, that means that the coil was flooded and eventually the flooding was "burned" off. When you filled the tank for the first time and primed the coil, did you just put a few drops in the coil? Or did you put a lot of drops in the coil? Perhaps the sting is coming from the nicotine? I never noticed a slight sting on my tongue, but I do notice it at the back of my throat. If it is too much for you, you should definitely decrease the nicotine level. You can also go with a higher VG percentage. When I was using the Subtank, I tried doing a direct to lung hit, but I'm not sure if I was doing it right. Mouth to lung just feels more natural to me.
 

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I don't really want tobacco flavor. But I do want flavor. I have been using the nautilus this morning with "fire and ice" 50%/50% 24mg. It's gotten me through a few hours. But it doesn't have flavor. I finally got too curious and busted out the subtank. Put the 1.2 in and tiger's blood, 24mg, 50%/50%. I am wanting to "drink" flavor. Both are alright. But very muted. The tiger's blood definitely has more. I am wondering if the ratio is the cause for the idk "bite"? I feel on my tongue? Still no store yet. I guess that's something useful.

That's the thing with vaping. By smelling the liquid juice, the flavor may smell very strong, but when actually vaping it, I have found that the flavor is much weaker. Some flavors will be stronger than others, as the strength of the flavor may vary from different brands of juice, as well as flavor to flavor even from the same juice vendor. I am currently mixing honey dew flavored juice with menthol. When I take a whiff of the juice, it has a strong aroma of honey dew melon. When I vape it, I just get a hint of the honey dew flavor, and the menthol is much more dominant. They also say that VG transmits flavor much more than PG. This is also why many online places where you can order juice do allow you to request extra shots of flavoring. In my experience, using the exact same juice, the Nautilus provides more flavor than the Subtank.
 
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