Need help replacing analog cigarettes...

[pslr2301]

I still have a couple of unopened bags of tobacco and supplies here but I'm not going to touch them. Every time I rolled one the past two weeks they've tasted worse and worse and I just don't need it anymore.

Very cool! =) Grats! I see that happening with me. The cigarettes today were not nearly as great as the vapor is. If I could just find a little stronger of a flavor that I loved. Almost like a new piece of gum. Where it is just a wash of flavor. That's what I equate what I would like to.

 

[pslr2301]

The easy way to transition from smoking to vaping is NOT to try quitting cigarettes right away. Just vape and allow yourself to have a cigarette if the urge gets too strong. Over time you will begin to realize that the vape tastes good and the cigarettes really tastes kind of nasty. Not trying to quit relieves a lot of the stress because you know you can have one if you want to.

The first week I vaped I suddenly realized by the end of that week I was down to about 6 cigarettes a day. I was smoking a couple with coffee in the mornings and one after each meal. The rest of the time I was playing with my new ecig and forgot to smoke. That was on 24mg nic juice. I continued to vape and smoke about 6 cigs a day until one day when I decided it was ridiculous to smoke any at all. I started vaping with my after meal cigarette and alternating hits from one to the other. The vapor tasted good and the cigarette tasted like an ashtray in comparison. That's when I decided that the pack I had just opened would be my last. It was and I never had a desire to smoke again.

I vape about 6 - 7 ml a day of 80pg/20vg juice.

That is comforting to know. One usually always feels bad for "falling off the wagon". I can easily see myself choosing vapor over the smoking. I just need to get more used to it and find a more convenient way to carry it. In my hands is available and good but I need my hands for other things so a case on a lanyard is my next idea. Just started looking online now. I am using a 50/50 juice right now. After I use what I have I am going to try a different ratio. Waiting gives me time to really learn my devices and find consistency in my vaping style. So that when I do change up the ratio I will have a better idea of what I want / need. Right now I can't even figure out if I mouth -> lung or direct lung lol. So I am holding off on any real changes until I get the procedural kinks worked out. =)

 

[pslr2301]

Hi from Katy, TX!!! 2 months, 17 days smoke free with vaping! Stop by Tiki Vapors on Mason and ask for Matt, he's great and set me up with a new vaping set last night. I'm not a menthol person, so can't recommend and flavors like that, but their Chai Tea kicks a**!!!!!!

Awesome! Grats for dropping the analogs hun. =) Very, very cool! Very proud of you. I am in Waco right now and avoiding the Houston area like the plague but I may end up back over there soon. If I do end up there I will definitely head over there. I would like a good local shop to deal with. It's good when people know you well and are "family". Thanks for the lead. =)

 

[Puff2K]

Very cool! =) Grats! I see that happening with me. The cigarettes today were not nearly as great as the vapor is. If I could just find a little stronger of a flavor that I loved. Almost like a new piece of gum. Where it is just a wash of flavor. That's what I equate what I would like to.

It will, I'm sure! I admit I got stressed today between 5 & 7 pm and I was dying to roll a cigarette but I gritted and vaped through it and I'm OK again now. I almost became convinced there's some chemical that wears off on the 3rd day leaving you crazy for more. So it's a process, but I'm not giving up. And if I really do want to smoke one of those foul tasting rollies it's still here, but it doesn't mean I failed because I'll go right back to the vape. This is the only thing that's ever worked for me. We will do it!

 

[jseah]

Jseah,

I am using the subtank cause I like the tiger's blood and had that on when I left the house to do dad's birthday lunch. I actually like the warmth a bit. But my vape is short. 1.8 - 2 seconds. The pop happens about 2. Two holes exposed. It was reading 1.3 ohms earlier but is now 1.2 and 3.4v. I did back it off to 3.2 but it was cool and I got less flavor and I was just hitting it longer still going to the pop. Either way I seem to find the satisfaction when it hits the pop. Amount of vapor / flavor / heat / whatever that point is that I am liking. It still hits the pop. But at 3.2 or 3.0 or anywhere in between (lower than 3.4) it just takes longer to get the pop. So basically I am doing / getting the same thing. Just faster at 3.4 than 3.2. IDK if any of that makes sense. It does in my head but translating it is a little iffy. LOL

You need to up the power on the iStick when using the Subtank. That's why the popping is happening. 3.4V with a 1.2 ohm coil means that you are running the Subtank Mini at 9.6 watts. The 1.2 ohm coil is designed to be operated between 12 and 25 watts. So you should be setting the voltage at 3.8 V. Once you up the voltage so that you are vaping at least 12 watts, the pop should go away.

When I was using the Subtank Mini, I was vaping at 15 watts. Got the nice sizzle but the vape was a bit too airy and warm for me.

 

[jseah]

So I am looking for a nice rigid holster? type thing I can lanyard around my neck and not risk dropping or have to carry around.

Here you go.

iStick 50W Leather Case

 

[pslr2301]

You need to up the power on the iStick when using the Subtank. That's why the popping is happening. 3.4V with a 1.2 ohm coil means that you are running the Subtank Mini at 9.6 watts. The 1.2 ohm coil is designed to be operated between 12 and 25 watts. So you should be setting the voltage at 3.8 V. Once you up the voltage so that you are vaping at least 12 watts, the pop should go away.

When I was using the Subtank Mini, I was vaping at 15 watts. Got the nice sizzle but the vape was a bit too airy and warm for me.

Jseah,

See? That's why I talk so much. Because I forget to mention important stuff but indirectly I get the info out some day. (Excuses, excuses.) Ok. I saw the 12-25w on the side and in the description when I bought it. Can actually see it through the liquid right now. But it felt like that was such a big jump from the nautilus and the chart led me astray. So I didn't even think to ask. Even according to the chart I was going over what I should have been. But possibly I am reading it wrong or it is outdated. Is there a better way to figure it out. I know you gave me a formula earlier. If that is the way to go I WILL go back and find it.



ETA: The nautilus is listed as 1.8 but reads as a 2.0 on the stick.So the lower ohms = higher watts = lower volt range for optimum experience? Yeah?

 

[pslr2301]

Here you go.

iStick 50W Leather Case

Jseah,

I like this. I would like to see one with room for a tank as well. But if I can't find that I will get this. Thank you!

Pam

 

[jseah]

Jseah,

See? That's why I talk so much. Because I forget to mention important stuff but indirectly I get the info out some day. (Excuses, excuses.) Ok. I saw the 12-25w on the side and in the description when I bought it. Can actually see it through the liquid right now. But it felt like that was such a big jump from the nautilus and the chart led me astray. So I didn't even think to ask. Even according to the chart I was going over what I should have been. But possibly I am reading it wrong or it is outdated. Is there a better way to figure it out. I know you gave me a formula earlier. If that is the way to go I WILL go back and find it.

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I don't think that chart accounts for all of these newer high powered tanks. The formula is ohms law and it doesn't really tell you what you should be setting the iStick at. It just shows the relationship between volts and watts. You take volts squared and then divide it by ohms and it gives you watts.

 

[pslr2301]

Alright. I will start at the low end (12) and work my way up then. Not an issue. =) I'd rather use it right. It will definitely last longer that way. Thanks dear.

 

[MagicJosh]

My doctor prescribes me a nicotine patch, and chantix. I have DIP just encase i cant handle it. And a 24 mg bottle and a subtank mini filled with high nicotine. I think this strategy would work for you. But you will need a strong 50 watt device and a high air intake tank for large vapes (Hits, or drags) Tugboat RDA Or The Subtank Mini by kanger. I wouldn't suggest the dip though..That is personal. Hopefully I will get past this first half of the year with this and go down in nicotine the other half. 3 packs a day is more then i smoked. You are going to need allot of nicotine and the feeling of smoking in your lungs. It worked for me i know it would work for you.

 

[pslr2301]

My doctor prescribes me a nicotine patch, and chantix. I have DIP just encase i cant handle it. And a 24 mg bottle and a subtank mini filled with high nicotine. I think this strategy would work for you. But you will need a strong 50 watt device and a high air intake tank for large vapes (Hits, or drags) Tugboat RDA Or The Subtank Mini by kanger. I wouldn't suggest the dip though..That is personal. Hopefully I will get past this first half of the year with this and go down in nicotine the other half. 3 packs a day is more then i smoked. You are going to need allot of nicotine and the feeling of smoking in your lungs. It worked for me i know it would work for you.

Thank you MagicJosh. Something that might help you also is Wellbutrin (It is sometimes used as a stop smoking medication. It can also help with weight loss. It is basically a very mild antidepressant. Many uses if it works. But expensive so go generic and if it doesn't help don't bother continuing to take it.) It really helped me with mood swings in addition to the Chantix when I quit smoking like 5 years ago. But prescribing Chantix and nicotine is really weird. It's my understanding that the Chantix works by giving you the "feel good" you would normally get from nicotine all day long. But if you put nicotine in your body it shuts off and you get no "feel good" and actually get a "feel bad" because of the nicotine. This makes you associate the feeling bad with nicotine (cigarettes / dip / whatever) and you WANT to quit so you don't feel like crap. So I am really confused by this prescription. Might want to discuss it with another doctor. Chantix is a no go for me. I took it and it worked great the first time around. I quit smoking for three years and had no desire to start back up. I reacquainted with an old friend and we ended up getting married for a few years. He smoked... I started back up. I tried the chantix again after we split and headed for a divorce and now it is an extremely bad idea. I have severe cramping instantly, projectile vomiting and incredibly bad mood swings. I was crying all day for absolutely no reason. Not just crying but I was sobbing as if my child had just died and my puppy and other child and mother all died as well. Chantix is not gonna happen for me. I really hope it works for you. =) That would be awesome if you can quit. Keep at it and you will succeed! Good job hun. (Seriously... I would really get a second opinion on the chantix and nicotine intake. But that's my opinion. =) )

ETA documentation: Chantix binds to nicotine receptors and blocks them so that nicotine can no longer activate those receptors (an effect that pharmacologists sometimes call an “antagonist” effect). This means that when someone is trying to quit and they lapse and smoke a cigarette, they probably won’t get much satisfaction from smoking it, and will be less likely to smoke another.2. When Chantix binds to nicotine receptors it also triggers some of the same effects that nicotine has (an effect pharmacologists call an “agonist” effect). This includes a small release of dopamine, the reward neurotransmitter in the brain. In this way Chantix dampens down nicotine withdrawal symptoms and cravings.

http://labeling.pfizer.com/ShowLabeling.aspx?id=557
http://www.chantix.com/how-chantix-works
http://www.healthline.com/health-bl...antix-how-does-new-quit-smoking-medicine-work

 

[AndriaD]

I am hitting it constantly as well. I hold it in until there is no vapor to exhale. (I joint hit my cigarettes also. Nasty habit. I haven't touched weed since I was a kid and the day I found out I was pregnant with my daughter I stopped everything illegal. ....... was my DOC. But whatever, not the point. I just hold in and absorb all the nicotine I can is the point.) But I take only like 1.8 - 2 second draws. I know you would usually do longer but if I go longer I will start coughing because I am trying to get a tight draw and I like the heat I am getting. Or I would get air if I changed it and that isn't satisfying so I would seek the stupid smokes for that satisfaction. I did smoke a few cigarettes today. I have no idea why but around my family I kind of felt weird bringing it out. They are used to the cigarettes (but hate them and would be thrilled to see that I am choosing the vapor instead of smoking). I guess it was just a psychological thing for me. I realized that I actually liked the vapor more today. Given the choice I would pick vapor but I didn't in that situation. Plus I had to carry it. I couldn't put it in my pocket but I could easily put cigarettes in my pocket. So I am looking for a nice rigid holster? type thing I can lanyard around my neck and not risk dropping or have to carry around. No excuses then. So I screwed up and did analogs but I am happy to know that my preference is vapor and that I *know* it is easier. Also, even backing off the analogs is a huge step for me and I am sure that I will continue to do so. The analogs allowed me to get away also. Because I know my family doesn't like the smoke I could use that as an excuse and walk off. Sometimes my lovely sister drives me nuts. She is incredibly dependent on me and yet hard headed and independent. So she wants my help, but wont take it, but needs me to do whatever (take the inside of her van door off and fix the handle cable), but will complain that she has to go ( even though it took 20 minutes tops), but wont stop complaining that she needs it done desperately, but wont help me do it, then is upset that I didn't somehow load her kids clothes into the dryer while I was outside fixing her van, but feels bad that I am doing it, but... OMG!!! UGH!! I need a walk! Back in a few. =P Sooo... yeah. Today was fun. =)

My mom is my cross to bear -- she is the most rigid, controlling, needy, dependant, ill-tempered, self-indulgent person I have ever known, and now she's in a wheelchair, so when she needs ANYTHING, somebody better drop whatever they're doing and go get it for her, or she'll start crying about how she's confined to a wheelchair and can't do things for herself anymore -- even though it's her own fault, she refuses to cut the sugar (she's massively diabetic, hence the wheelchair, her legs are like tree trunks) and she held on to the booze till AFTER she got the cirrhosis diagnosis. And she sits and cries about her body betraying her.... when she did it to herself by refusing to learn to eat properly or even bothering herself with what "properly" might entail. I swear she's like a weepy Jabba the Hut, perched there on her sofa.

And she makes fun of me because I read labels and try to not eat crap that I know isn't good for me. I pointed out to her just last weekend that the reason I eat the way I do is so that in 20 yrs, when I'm her age, I'm not in the condition she is, and won't need to take 15 or 20 pills a day just to survive. In one ear and out the other.

Yeah, I totally get the family issues. That's why when I was 23, I moved 800 miles away from my family.

Andria

 

[pslr2301]

My mom is my cross to bear -- she is the most rigid, controlling, needy, dependant, ill-tempered, self-indulgent person I have ever known.

Yeah, I totally get the family issues. That's why when I was 23, I moved 800 miles away from my family.

Andria

Ugh. Yup. My mom is the same as my sister. Add in racist and critical of everyone and everything and then top it off with two faced. She had a gastric bypass because she was 350lbs and couldn't lose the weight. Then after she lost the weight griped at me that I was not trying hard enough. Actually, speaking to me, loudly criticized an obese woman in a motorized cart one day at the grocery store, makig her feel like trash because if she'd just get out of the motor cart she'd lose weight. W... t... s... f... I can't tell you how many times I have apologized for things she has said. Now my sister, ya know, cause it's a Thursday or something, has decided that she is seriously interested in transpeople rights and that she has to apologize profusely because she used "he" when the person wants to identify as a "she" even though clearly the person is dressing, acting, speaking, EVERYTHING like a "he" would and if they didn't tell you, you'd have no way of knowing. She now wants to be a lesbian guy or gay guy or a girl or hell... what day is it again? As long as she gets to be a polygamist and then complain when the guy spends time with his real wife or plethora of other girlfriends and treats her like he is just keep in her around for free sex. Wait... that's all he is keeping her for. Well, it's okay. She has other guys too. And girls. And we aren't sure what's. As long as they are all okay with her having the others then it's cool. Add to that her 12? cats, too many rats to count, three snakes, dog (1 but wants another) and one bird. *sigh* To each their own but you complain about too much drama in your life... ever stop to think that maybe you are orchestrating it? I moved to a town with the saner side of my family. But Seattle, Washington is looking absolutely amazing!

Eta: They will always be the "victim" and blame someone else. Knowing it is their own doing. That's why you can't break through with sanity. Because they would have to face reality. That can't happen. We make our mistakes. But it's only a mistake if you see it as such and attempt to do differently next time. Some people just can't be helped. You have to learn to not own their problems and attempt to tackle your own. My biggest problem in life is that I will hurt myself trying to own and fix everyone else's problems. It os something I have yet to conquer. But I am trying.

 

[AndriaD]

Heh. No wonder we smoked cigarettes -- there's much to be said for self-medication that doesn't require a doctor or vaster sums of money than just the cigarettes themselves. And of course, she keeps throwing in her little remarks like "if it's really as safe as all that," about the e-cigs. I told her straight out that she was just jealous, because I could quit smoking so much more easily than she did. I was surprised that she actually agreed with me.

Andria

 

[pslr2301]

Heh. No wonder we smoked cigarettes -- there's much to be said for self-medication that doesn't require a doctor or vaster sums of money than just the cigarettes themselves. And of course, she keeps throwing in her little remarks like "if it's really as safe as all that," about the e-cigs. I told her straight out that she was just jealous, because I could quit smoking so much more easily than she did. I was surprised that she actually agreed with me.

Andria

Yeah no lie! LOL here ya go. Bring this up next time and walk off. http://......................./top-20-rebuttals-to-win-an-e-cigarette-debate

 

[pslr2301]

Whoa! I moved it to 12w and it popped big time. I almost felt like I was shocked. =/ A little afraid to try that again.

Eta: I think it did shock me. My bottom lip is tender in one spot. Wth?

 

[AndriaD]

Whoa! I moved it to 12w and it popped big time. I almost felt like I was shocked. =/ A little afraid to try that again.

Eta: I think it did shock me. My bottom lip is tender in one spot. Wth?

It probably popped some juice out; I hate that so much! With my kayfuns it's not usually too bad, they have a pretty good chimney, but in my Magma (RDA) I use one of those "swivel" driptips, so that my mouth isn't right over the coil. When that juice pops out, it's HOT! And I imagine the 24mg would be rather irritating to skin in its own right.

Andria

 

[jseah]

Whoa! I moved it to 12w and it popped big time. I almost felt like I was shocked. =/ A little afraid to try that again.

Eta: I think it did shock me. My bottom lip is tender in one spot. Wth?

Try bumping it up to 15 watts....or at least keep bumping it up until the popping stops.

 

[pslr2301]

I didn't feel like anything came out. It was a definite buzz shock like a nine volt battery. It didn't do that at 3.4v even when it popped. It is definitely crackling and popping much more quickly now. And hot. It doesn't even make it .5 of a second before crackling. But the heat stops me at .8 seconds.Huge difference. I liked the 3.4v better. ETA: up to 18w now. Higher I go the faster it starts crackling and hotter it gets.