Need ideas and submissions for a documentary type thing

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nitewriter

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I have to chime in on this because I think it's a fantastic idea!!! I'll help any way I can.

I think it would be something deserving of 60 Minutes or Nightline too. A great way to get the information public, and they love stuff like this.

Just a thought, (maybe good, maybe not) use this video of analogs Bad habit video and do a similar one with e-cigs to show the difference.

3 e-smokers in one house, just ley me know what you need from me!

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Kate

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we need as many sides as possible kate. It would be nice to have you and him. not in the same segment of course, but in general.

Ha, actually the Trog v Kate thing seems to be mellowing a bit, maybe we are maturing ;)

The only thing is that now TBob who is usually a gentleman is starting with the stupid bunny shoddy Chinese on another planet thing :rolleyes:

Trog must be contagious 8-o
 

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This idea sounds awsome. As far as questions:

1. Does your doctor know that you use these, and what does he/she think?
2. How about your friends and family? Are they supportive of your use?
3. How do you feel about the fact that these devices are not regulated (at least in the U.S.)?
4.Are you using these to try and quit smoking, or for other reasons?
5. What have been the reactions to your use of them in public?
6. How much money do you spend per week/month/etc to use these, and how does that compare to regular smoking?
 

RatInDaHat

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vaporDave, great questions that should definitely be taken into consideration.

the bad habit video or similar comparisons should be considered. a lot of it will depends on where the story goes with all of the content. What emerges as a common thread, etc. To be honest, i don't know what the real story is yet and it will probably take quite a few hours of footage to figure that out.
 

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I won't be in any videos, I'm a woman of mystery ;)

Do you mean questions like what device do you like the best, how many do you have, what's your favourite flavour, how much tobacco do you still use, how did you find out about e-vaping, ... etc?

I would love to see you appear in said video all pixelated with your voice changed....haha


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Dustin - I think this is a fantastic idea. I'll try to think of some questions while I'm sitting here tonight and post them later this morning.

However, I really liked one of Vapordave's questions and it made me think that it would be really nice to hear from our nonsmoker friends as well. I'm sure I could coerce my boyfriend to say a few good words on our behalf. His much happier that I don't stink and that I'm not killing our kids with smoke anymore.


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There are many questions I think would be awesome to ask Doctors and experts, but for the casual user I'd suggest these in addition to what's been said.

Are you worried about possible bans, and what would you do if they were?

Have you tried to quit smoking before? How is your experience different with e-cigarettes? (might be getting too much into the nrt stuff here, but worth a mention)

Some statistics on smoking such as number of smoking related deaths, and number of carcinogens would be good to include. Here's some links to that info..

Smoking cessation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

(ps. has anyone noticed e-cigs are listed here???)

http://quitsmoking.about.com/cs/nicotineinhaler/a/cigingredients.htm

You could say what we know about PG, VG, and the other ingredients in our liquids as well.
 

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Here is some questions dusty tell me what you think you might like some of them

#1 Do you think you use e-cigarettes more then traditional cigarettes ?
#2 Will you try to ween yourself off of nicotine completely using e-cigarettes ?
#3 How much money have you saved by switching to E-cigs ?
#4 Does the E-cigarette satisfy your nicotine craving ?
#5 Are you embarrassed using your e-cig in public ?
#6 When using your e-cig in the car are you afraid of the police pulling you over for thinking it's drug paraphernalia ?
 
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Dusty, I lost the cable/internet last night right in the middle of this! I couldn't even post a reply that I had completed:

Yes, the internet service. I was the content editor who put Tampa Bay Road Runner online at startup. Fun times, I tell you. All gone. Merging with AOL ruined Time Warner.

You mentioned lighting problems. Worse is likely to be audio. That a huge concern, since most people speaking would need wireless mikes, and few probably have them. On-camera mikes produce awful sound. Ask any filmmaker and they'll say the biggest challenge is audio. If the audio is lousy, the production is lousy.

Look forward to this.


I don't envy the nightmare you will face in making something interesting from the footage you will receive. Frankly, "The Doctors" take on e-smoking was about the right length for the average attention span.

Too many questions will lead to repetitious, boring footage if you string them together. And you need firecrackers like Trog, not just golly-gee-whiz people. Kate, I was using Trog's analogy in that reference before. He is very, very "quotable". And I was a newspaper writer all my life. Bless the Trogs, curse the "yes, no" people with "I'm not sure" comments.

Here are what I see as your BIG problems:

1. Rambling, unscripted speeches to answer even three questions, much less a long list.

2. Poor audio.

3. Jerky camera movements, or just plain lousy cameras, ala those in cell phones or built into many computers.

4. Poor lighting.

5. A bland sameness that dulls viewers and could make the point with a single, pointed interview.

Good luck with this.
 

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TB, i know audio is the pita. I also know that the average user won;t have the experience to get great audio and there is very little i can do from here to change that. Hence why i am not going to complain about it.

the unscripted speech is exactly what i am looking for. it won't be there in it's entirety. editing will be the real trick. without footage there is nothing.

i totally agree that we need energy, which is why i think trog would be great to have on camera.

I haven't really seen anything like this done. That is not to say it has never been done, but it is a newer concept which might work beautifully, or might fall on its .... editing and finding the story will be the real trick. the reason i want a solid list of questions is that everyone will have a different answer. some similar, some wildly different. i would love a feature length, but that depends on the footage that comes over. it wil only be as long as it can be. I won't repeat the same thing over and over just for the sake of time.

Trust me, i'll be sending you some stuff once editing gets under way, if you are available of course.

-Dusty-
 

Kate

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Personally I think Trog will be great if you can get him to join in, he really is a character. But the insults are just for effect and are offensive ... I do not appreciate being called a stupid bunny living in fantasy land and that the Chinese are unethical bodgers. He's full of his own importance tripe and shows no respect for the rest of us. If Trog is as offensive on camera as he is in writing then I'll be pinging rubber bands at him on the screen.

I still think he would be a good character in a vid.
 
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