Neewbie in need of advice

[BloodLetter]

Greetings everyone I just signed up here because I was looking for a reliable place to get information from people with experience My question is about batteries. I've been using a Kanger KBox 40w for a while now and just recently bought a Triton 2 with 0.5ohm claptons as a replacement for my nautilus mini and I'm really liking it so for but the problem is that just a few days ago the battery I was using in that thing from the start stopped wanting to charge. I checked it and it was running about 1v short of it's supposed spec so clearly it needed replacing. I did a little research and ended up going with a pair of Samsung INR IMR 25R 18650 2500mAh 20/35A Li-Mn 3.7v batteries as obviously the voltage needs to be the same but I wanted something with a slightly higher capacity then the old 2100mAh that broke. My question is do the Amps matter? for example the old battery is a 20A and this is advertised as 20-35A. Do the Amps need to stay the same or could I run a 60A battery in the same mod that previously used a 20A? Just need to add that I have very limited knowledge on this topic so please excuse me if I'm making an .... of myself.

 

[suprtrkr]

Hi and welcome. The good news is the Sammy 25Rs are perfect for your Kbox. Those are the batteries I would have recommended. Yes, amps matter, and a lot, for safety. You have a regulated mod (as opposed to a mechanical). Therefore it is less important to you; your mod won't do anything that will stress the Sammys beyind their ability. That said, the number you need for vaping is the continuous discharge rating or CDR. For your batteries, that's 20 amps. The 35 amps is the pulse discharge rating, and doesn't mean anything for vapers. The pulses are typically microseconds, while a vape draw is several seconds long. Basically, there is no such thing as a 60 amp-- or even 35 amp-- CDR battery in the 18xxx series. Those are either pulse ratings or lies. If you ever buy a mod more powerful than 40 watts, and you routinely use it above 60 watts-- few people do, the vape gets hot in a hurry-- you'll want stronger batteries. I use Sony VTC4s, which are rated 20 amps but will go to 30 without dangerous overheating, although this shortens their life. Above this are the LG HB6s and (impossible to find) HB3s. Those are rated an honest 30 amps CDR, and are about the best commonly available to vapers for extreme duty applications. If you really need that kind of amp loading, start thinking in terms of a dual or triple parallel box mod. That's way out on the ragged edge, though; most folk don't need it.

 

[BloodLetter]

Hi and welcome. The good news is the Sammy 25Rs are perfect for your Kbox. Those are the batteries I would have recommended. Yes, amps matter, and a lot, for safety. You have a regulated mod (as opposed to a mechanical). Therefore it is less important to you; your mod won't do anything that will stress the Sammys beyind their ability. That said, the number you need for vaping is the continuous discharge rating or CDR. For your batteries, that's 20 amps. The 35 amps is the pulse discharge rating, and doesn't mean anything for vapers. The pulses are typically microseconds, while a vape draw is several seconds long. Basically, there is no such thing as a 60 amp-- or even 35 amp-- CDR battery in the 18xxx series. Those are either pulse ratings or lies. If you ever buy a more more powerful than 40 watts, and you routinely use it above 60 watts-- few people do, the vape gets hot in a hurry-- you'll want stronger batteries. I use Sony VTC4s, which are rated 20 amps but will go to 30 without dangerous overheating, although this shortens their life. Above this are the LG HB6s and (impossible to find) HB3s. Those are rated an honest 30 amps CDR, and are about the best commonly available to vapers for extreme duty applications. If you really need that kind of amp loading, start thinking in terms of a dual or triple parallel box mod. That's way out on the ragged edge, though; most folk don't need it.

Thanks a lot mate that's cleared things up so basically you don't want a CDR lower than what your box needs is that correct?

 

[suprtrkr]

Definitely, but remember you mod is rated in watts, and the batteries in amps. It's more complex but, rule of thumb for one battery: 60 watts or less, the 25Rs or LG HE2s or HE4s; above 60 watts go to Sony VTC4s; above 125 or so, the LG HB6s. That's in a regulated mod. If you move into mechanicals, there's (a lot) more to learn.

Thanks a lot mate that's cleared things up so basically you don't want a CDR lower than what your box needs is that correct?

 

[BloodLetter]

Definitely, but remember you mod is rated in watts, and the batteries in amps. It's more complex but, rule of thumb for one battery: 60 watts or less, the 25Rs or LG HE2s or HE4s; above 60 watts go to Sony VTC4s; above 125 or so, the LG HB6s. That's in a regulated mod. If you move into mechanicals, there's (a lot) more to learn.

Thanks for clearing it up!