It is the future. Time for civil disobedience. They might bust a few of us but there will be thousands.
New FDA regulations and effect on DIY?
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It is the future. Time for civil disobedience. They might bust a few of us but there will be thousands.
Plastic bottles for storing nic allow some oxygen to leech thru to the nic. But is it more oxygen than one would get in the nic by pouring it into glass bottles. Lots of air gets in there with that process.
And the air bubbles will require a longer time to escape from VG than PG due to the higher viscosity, meaning more time with the lid off. The air, more than anything needs to be out of it before putting the lid back on to store long term. afaik. Cheers.
mixing juice is like mixing drinks, you make it as strong or weak as you like, add the flavors you like and adjust to taste. only diy juice mixing doesnt leave you hung over in the morning.
a small vacuum can remove the excess air quick and easy. if you happen to have one or feel like making one, if not a food saver works too.
i plan on getting atleast 5, 100 mg , vg base, 1 gallon bottles, and atleast 40 gallons of pre-mixed 70/30 vg\pg from e bay. as a grey hat hacker, primarily ethical, i see a great oportunity to use deep web\dark web to keep all us vapers in nice safe cozy little world, free of fda\atf\dea regulations and restrictions that are opressive and in violation of constitutional rights.
i love fruit and candy flavor profiles ....in my drinks and my juice. usually for some reason drink prefrence seems to be almost identical to vape prefrence in allot of people. people that like beer and coffee usually like tobacco and pungent aromatic vapes, while people who like pina coladas and sonic slushes usually prefer fruity\ tropical\ light and sweet vapes. although i personally have seen and purchased it i have never had a single person willing (including myself) that would try the bacon flavored juice!
I can just see it now. The future vape shop will only sell unflavored e-liquid and any mods that can get approval. Next door there will be a candy and baking supply store which recommends that you cut your cake layers with kanthal wire. 
Humm.... lets see..... say I use 10ml a day at 10mg. That equates to 1ml of 100mg nicotine a day. 1yr=365days=365ml of 100mg nicotine.
1ltr=1000ml. 1000ml/365ml=2.7yrs
I'm currently vaping ~5ml of 7mg a day so my 4ltrs of 100mg ought to last me much longer than the 10.6yrs in the example above.
1ltr=1000ml. 1000ml/365ml=2.7yrs
I'm currently vaping ~5ml of 7mg a day so my 4ltrs of 100mg ought to last me much longer than the 10.6yrs in the example above.
OK, most people have said you need amber glass bottles for long-term storage of nic in a freezer. I already have 2L of 100mg nic stashed that way.
However, I have a friend who works at a plastics company that provides products for scientific laboratory use, educational use, and medical use, (ie. centrifuge tubes, test tubes & racks, beakers, graduated cylinders, wash bottles, a variety of types and sizes of plastic bottles and carboys, etc., etc.) I already bought quite a few of their Amber HDPE 150mL and 250mL bottles, because they: (1) are not made in China where certain specs aren't required, (2) must use FDA compliant resins, (3) must be manufactured to the strict guidelines necessary for scientific lab and medical field use. I buy them as overstock at a HUGE savings compared to what the lab, educational, and medical fields pay for them. So I've just been using them for a variety of other storage purposes before now!
These are their specs:
Laboratory Bottle, Amber Wide Mouth with Black Screw-on Cap - HDPE
• Leakproof • For light sensitive materials • FDA compliant resin • Rigid • Black Polypropylene closure
These have excellent chemical resistance and are suitable for sampling and storage of sensitive materials.
Temp. Rating: minimum continuous -148 degrees F/-100 degrees C to maximum continuous heated 230 degrees F/110 degrees C
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So, I'm at a loss as to why most on here say absolutely do NOT store nic in any plastic bottles! Seems to me these HDPE laboratory bottles not only meet the requirements to do it, but especially temp. rating wise...far surpass what's necessary!
Anyone have definite knowledge as to why they shouldn't be used?
However, I have a friend who works at a plastics company that provides products for scientific laboratory use, educational use, and medical use, (ie. centrifuge tubes, test tubes & racks, beakers, graduated cylinders, wash bottles, a variety of types and sizes of plastic bottles and carboys, etc., etc.) I already bought quite a few of their Amber HDPE 150mL and 250mL bottles, because they: (1) are not made in China where certain specs aren't required, (2) must use FDA compliant resins, (3) must be manufactured to the strict guidelines necessary for scientific lab and medical field use. I buy them as overstock at a HUGE savings compared to what the lab, educational, and medical fields pay for them. So I've just been using them for a variety of other storage purposes before now!
These are their specs:
Laboratory Bottle, Amber Wide Mouth with Black Screw-on Cap - HDPE
• Leakproof • For light sensitive materials • FDA compliant resin • Rigid • Black Polypropylene closure
These have excellent chemical resistance and are suitable for sampling and storage of sensitive materials.
Temp. Rating: minimum continuous -148 degrees F/-100 degrees C to maximum continuous heated 230 degrees F/110 degrees C
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So, I'm at a loss as to why most on here say absolutely do NOT store nic in any plastic bottles! Seems to me these HDPE laboratory bottles not only meet the requirements to do it, but especially temp. rating wise...far surpass what's necessary!
Anyone have definite knowledge as to why they shouldn't be used?
According to Kurt, plastic bottles can let oxygen through allowing oxidation. I don't think he was referring to bottles as over engineered as the ones you listed but I could not be sure???
I dont have definite knowledge but I read a thread on here somewhere and they said oxygen can bleed in through the plastic and oxidize the nicotine. How true that is I dont know
A very small amount yes. imho you would get far more oxygen in there transferring it to another container than would bleed thru the plastic container in a freezer.
I just ordered 2 more years worth of flavoring for my ADV's.
I am sure a lot of people are ordering in bulk. I ordered a 5 year supply and would like to order more later. I wonder if the labs are going to be able to keep up?
Essential Depot has 1 Gal of VG + 1 Gal of PG for a bit under $44 including shipping for domestic US.
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