Nope, been using twisted 34awg on everything now. Wow, that'd be seriously LR.
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Nope, been using twisted 34awg on everything now. Wow, that'd be seriously LR.
Is your first wrap off the base clockwise or counter clock wise on your wick? Not a big deal, but it maybe easier to clear if you go clockwise. That said I've done both. I feel your pain, you will get it! I've gone through METERS of coil and piles of mesh learning how to do this, for weeks, only recently has it become a minute long operation.
EDIT: I mean counter clockwise sorry lol
EDIT: I mean counter clockwise sorry lol
I'll get it Uma. I'm just a little frustrated right now. everytime i get close, i find the top screw loose and then the top coil breaks when i try to fix it or I go to wiggle a short out and the whole thing goes kaput again. I added the cig paper, and now i'm back to e1 errors. I'll keep fussin
it does seem like i have a problem getting the bottom coil to steer clear of the bottom nut as well. maybe i need to tighten that one down again?
One method that helped me get started was to make the coil on something before installing (I use a Home Deport pick that is almost the exact same diameter as the wick hole). This way I could roll nice even coil and then stick the pick right in the wick hole and tighten the coil at both ends. Since it's nice and clean I can use a tooth pick to get the coil all straightened out and not touching anything. Then pull out the pick and (at the lowest voltage setting) do a dry burn to see the iff the coil lights up even. If it's all good check resistance and this becomes the "baseline" resistance for that coil (helps later to know if it drops there a short somewhere). This is just the beginning phase, but it builds confidence to see a perfect coil glowing nicely.
Then to the wick. I use the regular 1/2 sheet (folded on the outside edge) and rolled on the allen key that came with the DID. Once it's pretty tight on the allen key, I take it off and see (before oxidizing) if I can twist it into the coil with a little friction. If not, I tighten it up by finger/thumb rolling to make it smaller and try again. Once it does fit, I do the normal oxidize/quench (3x) + juice saturate/burn (3x) and twist it in. Once it touches bottom, I pull it back up ~1mm so no chance of short to bottom. The 1/2 sheets are ~40mmx~50mm, so I trim the top to align with the top of the center post.
Now, check resistance if it dropped there's a short. If not, you may be set. Do a dry burn and see what the coil looks like. Hot spots are usually on the outside of the short to the posts (if the top coil glows, nudge the next coil down. If the bottom coil glows, nudge the next coil up). It does not need to be perfect to work and does kind of self-heal as it breaks in.
When fairly happy with it (or ecstatic if you got super lucky) juice and vape. As the wick starts get broken in, a nudge on a hotspot or a twist of the wick can sort it right out. Once you check your resistance and it's the same as the original baseline, you know you're short free. And while re-coiling is occasionally necessary, wicks can be reused for months.
Once you have a "seasoned" wick it gets much easier.
here is what i did: I folded the outside edge (it doesn't seem to blend into the roll very well) I took the torch to the whole sheet on both sides several times and dunked it in distilled water before rolling. I dipped it in vg and scorched it several times. That caught on fire so i'd have to dunk it in the water and blot it on the paper towel. I tried rolling it on a screw. I tried rolling it straight onto the wick. I tried the paper. I've re-lit the coil to make sure it's really oxidized. ( i pulled out my first oxidized wick this morning cuz i found small indents in it. I've tried 4/5 and 3/4. i'm angling up the bottom coil to keep it from touching the base and also the bottom screw. So, if you see something wrong in any of the above, please let me know. I started twisting the wick to try and shake out the hotspots. I add juice to the coils and burn if i can get it to start firing. I notice that the coils don't heat up right away if I don't have a hot spot. doesn't that mean it has something to do with my connections or the tightness of the wrap? I know i'm getting close
yup, i rolled it around the allen key. sometimes i seem to have the coil to far over to the left. on this last wick, i cut the bottom at a 45 degree angle. it's not touching the bottom
yup, i rolled it around the allen key. sometimes i seem to have the coil to far over to the left. on this last wick, i cut the bottom at a 45 degree angle. it's not touching the bottom
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Personally, I always coil on the wick. Counterclockwise wind, ending so bottom wire is abt 9, top abt 12. IMHO, you want the coil to be snug, but not tight, on the wick. I drop the wick/coil assembly into the wick hole, then position it as centered as I can, tighten ground nut on bottom wire. Then I go to top wire, take 3/4 turn on post. Twist top brass nut til the top of nut is abt flush with post top. Then, twist second (lower) nut up to meet the top nut, holding top nut still. If I have done my wick correctly, I have minimal hot spots that I fix by either slightly moving wire or twisting wick (sometimes both). Pulse burn coil while dropping juice directly on the coil. Fill & Vape time .
The wick prep comments I've seen are very close to what I do. I have been told (by a metallurgist) that one heat/H20 quench is all you need, but I still do a second after my coil is is done, as I posted earlier.
Note: This is what works for me, hope it helps
.The wick prep comments I've seen are very close to what I do. I have been told (by a metallurgist) that one heat/H20 quench is all you need, but I still do a second after my coil is is done, as I posted earlier.
Note: This is what works for me, hope it helps
Tybin, 3 things you might try. Let the juice/vg burn out, dont dunk. Reheat/quench after you have rolled the wick. Use something to make your fold-over sharp & even, like the side of a lighter run along the fold while on a countertop/table.
LOL, exactly reverse order
LOL, exactly reverse order
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ok update: psst. i think i'm close again 
If I do not have the wick in the coils, it burns evenly at 2.0. The wick started to unravel and is rather stiff. I am shrinking it up and i put more juice on and scorched it to try and tighten it up. When I put the wick back in, it stops being nice to me. I assume my problem thus, is the wick.
If I do not have the wick in the coils, it burns evenly at 2.0. The wick started to unravel and is rather stiff. I am shrinking it up and i put more juice on and scorched it to try and tighten it up. When I put the wick back in, it stops being nice to me. I assume my problem thus, is the wick.
Yeah! I sense coil confidence rising. Now burn that wick into submission. It's common for the resistance to fluctuate a bit during break in. ~0.3ohm drop or less can heal itself as juice burns in or just a wick "twist" more than that and I would nudge the coil (or pull the wick and burn it again - I admit it I like the torch thing ).
When doing the juice burn thing, it is supposed to catch fire. I stick the wick on the end of a metal tool, saturate the wick with juice (vg/pg is irrelevant) and light it with a lighter till it catches fire (not too close to the face - the buring juice spits and sizzles a bit). I hold it horizontal while burning and rotate it to get all the surfaces scorches till it burns out on its own.
). When doing the juice burn thing, it is supposed to catch fire. I stick the wick on the end of a metal tool, saturate the wick with juice (vg/pg is irrelevant) and light it with a lighter till it catches fire (not too close to the face - the buring juice spits and sizzles a bit). I hold it horizontal while burning and rotate it to get all the surfaces scorches till it burns out on its own.
sounds like you got the coil right.
follow this and it's got to work, it really is just that easy
Then to the wick. I use the regular 1/2 sheet (folded on the outside edge) and rolled on the allen key that came with the DID. Once it's pretty tight on the allen key, I take it off and see (before oxidizing) if I can twist it into the coil with a little friction. If not, I tighten it up by finger/thumb rolling to make it smaller and try again. Once it does fit, I do the normal oxidize/quench (3x) + juice saturate/burn (3x) and twist it in. Once it touches bottom, I pull it back up ~1mm so no chance of short to bottom. The 1/2 sheets are ~40mmx~50mm, so I trim the top to align with the top of the center post.
juice saturate/burn (3x) ) let it catch fire and burn a min, blow out and do it 2 more times. do not put in water.
follow this and it's got to work, it really is just that easy
Then to the wick. I use the regular 1/2 sheet (folded on the outside edge) and rolled on the allen key that came with the DID. Once it's pretty tight on the allen key, I take it off and see (before oxidizing) if I can twist it into the coil with a little friction. If not, I tighten it up by finger/thumb rolling to make it smaller and try again. Once it does fit, I do the normal oxidize/quench (3x) + juice saturate/burn (3x) and twist it in. Once it touches bottom, I pull it back up ~1mm so no chance of short to bottom. The 1/2 sheets are ~40mmx~50mm, so I trim the top to align with the top of the center post.
juice saturate/burn (3x) ) let it catch fire and burn a min, blow out and do it 2 more times. do not put in water.
yeah, that fizzling was a little like a lightning storm 
Yeah! I sense coil confidence rising. Now burn that wick into submission. It's common for the resistance to fluctuate a bit during break in. ~0.3ohm drop or less can heal itself as juice burns in or just a wick "twist" more than that and I would nudge the coil (or pull the wick and burn it again - I admit it I like the torch thing
When doing the juice burn thing, it is supposed to catch fire. I stick the wick on the end of a metal tool, saturate the wick with juice (vg/pg is irrelevant) and light it with a lighter till it catches fire (not too close to the face - the buring juice spits and sizzles a bit). I hold it horizontal while burning and rotate it to get all the surfaces scorches till it burns out on its own.
Sounds cliché, but the taste does get better as everything settles in. very happy you're up and running.
thanks for the help! I think i just don't like the juice
Lol...
I'm happy you got a good wick going!
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