New Genesis type atomizer by DID!

[MisterCombo21]

a 4/5 wrap with the 30awg is exactly what get right now: 1.2. set at 4v on the provari... you get a good 12 watt...
you'll even get away with 1ohm on the provary as long as its stable...

So it is safe at that low a resistance. Thanks, good to know. I wasnt sure. At 4 volts or so though and right at the amp limit, if my resistance waivers at all and drops .1 or .2 , instant E2/ E1.... But it seems to work fine. Definitely more wiggle room however with a 2ohm that you can pump up to 6 in theory.
I've heard people say that less than 1.5 ohm is too low for a Provari, but seems okay and if its over 3.5 amps, you get the error. The Precise with a good battery can definitely hit higher wattage with this set up though. Now I see rwechsler's rationale for all mechanical...

 

[fuzzione]

@ Nicotinologist. I probably should not fall for the bait, but.... I have had one DID for four months and two more DIDS for about three months. I also have a Zen AYS, ASH, and a Mini + a couple of iHibrids and an orion. All of which have the original SS wicks, and several have even have the original coil. My DIDS run perfect on my ProVari mini and Provari standard once set up properly on a Buzz Pro or a mechanical tube mod. Just my and it ain't blind luck or my first rodeo. The DID is a solid Genesis atomizer that performs amazingly well and is a looker to boot.

lol...was thinking same as I debated preparing a similar response...about the obvious bait that is. Then I noticed that a wise moderator saved us all the trouble.

 

[MisterCombo21]

Time for a commercial break.

DID someone say Pyrex tank?

We now return you to your regularly scheduled program.

My thoughts exactly... Not a huge fan of clear tanks though, but Ill take pyrex over a polysomethingorother any day... I'd love colored pyrex like the siam green or blue tanks (however I have broken two of their pyrex). Smoked or an almost opaque black like a phiniac I saw would look awesome..
I'm hoping a co-op is on the way. The polys get all scratched up so quickly and I move on to the next one..

 

[gnc207]

Anyone think 1.2 ohms seems low for a 5 wrap with 30awg (5 wrap on the front side, looking at it with the positive to the right)? It was fluctuating from 1.0 at the beginning but now is pretty stable on the Provari. Unfortunately I am sending out my Precise for a refurb or I'd be using it on that... I really like using the 30 awg as its easy to work with, but to have a safe resistance on the Provari I would probably need like a 6 or 7 wrap which I believe is probably prone to more issues.

With 4/3 wraps (30 awg), I am getting 1.3-5 and vape on 3.7-4.0. I check ohms before inserting the mesh and after. If I hit 1.0-2, usually something goes wrong - flavour is off or vape. But, I am on #500 - 100 mm mesh. Still testing in progress for me.

 

[fuzzione]

I use a stiff toothrbush specifically for that purpose and dip it in cheap vodka. Cleans it pretty well, then again so does a dry burn.....

That's a very good tip, thanks. Got plenty of cheap vodka

 

[principle]

WHen I decide to do a dry burn after a tank or two, the bottom coil never glows as bright as the others and I adjust a little, refill, and keep going. I have noticed on almost every coil I've built, when I watch the juice bubble on the wick and am firing with the cap off, the coil on the bottom seems to be the laziest. Ill see a few bubbles here and there but the top ones always seem to do most of the work. I also always notice that the top two coils get the majority of the crud buildup. They still work though, even on the finnicky Provari. I am hoping other people experience this too. Usually stable resistance, good flavor anyway.

I see exactly the same thing on mine the bottom coil never seems to do as much work but I think this is pretty normal. Or we've both really screwed it up

 

[MisterCombo21]

I see exactly the same thing on mine the bottom coil never seems to do as much work but I think this is pretty normal. Or we've both really screwed it up

Good, Mike and I aren't the only ones LOL. I think its just the nature of the set up. Sometimes its a little better but never as good as that top coil

 

[MisterCombo21]

With 4/3 wraps (30 awg), I am getting 1.3-5 and vape on 3.7-4.0. I check ohms before inserting the mesh and after. If I hit 1.0-2, usually something goes wrong - flavour is off or vape. But, I am on #500 - 100 mm mesh. Still testing in progress for me.

Interesting.. The variation could be the size of the wick too as well as space between coils of course... Good to know I wasn't way off. When I saw it was that low, I was really suprised, then again I did the math and if someone gets 0.8 on 3 coils, it seems to make sense...

 

[principle]

I'm hoping a co-op is on the way.

For a glass tank count me in, I don't think there would be any problems getting enough people in that.

 

[MisterCombo21]

That's a very good tip, thanks. Got plenty of cheap vodka

No prob. Sometimes Ill give it a quick brush when its warm and in the middle of a tank. Quickly burn off the vodka and keep going. Especially with the tobacco extracts that have all the particulates it needs constant cleaning. though I am thinking more and more that a high end regular atomizer is the way to go with those... The extracts mess up a genny in minutes from what I've seen...

 

[johnsnhu]

When I make my coils, I torch the wire I'm going to use, then wrap it around the threads of a screw from the back of a computer case. Fits perfect on the wick, and all my coils light evenly all the time...even the bottom ones. Give it a try, and let us know how it works out.

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[MisterCombo21]

When I make my coils, I torch the wire I'm going to use, then wrap it around the threads of a screw from the back of a computer case. Fits perfect on the wick, and all my coils light evenly all the time...even the bottom ones. Give it a try, and let us know how it works out.

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Ah. It must be that when wrapping directly on the wick you can't get the tension perfect, but it can get close. WHen the bottom isnt touching and you see a gap, it always glows even when wet I have noticed. So it must be that I am coiling the bottom too tight?

I want the screw method to work for me, seems so convenient, but it never has. I can never get the wick perfect enough to slide in correctly. Either its barely too narrow on the bottom or top, or it bends the coils when putting it in. Maybe I should give it a better shot and make sure to find a screw that is just a hair smaller than the wick hole... Also, when I have done it this way, it is sometimes too loose and the wick falls to the bottom of the tank. You guys must be very precise to get it the perfect width before even torching the wick (since you can't really change the size of the wick after torching)....

 

[johnsnhu]

Ah. It must be that when wrapping directly on the wick you can't get the tension perfect, but it can get close. WHen the bottom isnt touching and you see a gap, it always glows even when wet I have noticed. So it must be that I am coiling the bottom too tight?

I want the screw method to work for me, seems so convenient, but it never has. I can never get the wick perfect enough to slide in correctly. Either its barely too narrow on the bottom or top, or it bends the coils when putting it in. Maybe I should give it a better shot and make sure to find a screw that is just a hair smaller than the wick hole... Also, when I have done it this way, it is sometimes too loose and the wick falls to the bottom of the tank. You guys must be very precise to get it the perfect width before even torching the wick (since you can't really change the size of the wick after torching)....

I lube the wick with some VG... anything will fit with a little lube... ha ha!

My thought is that the bottom coil may be either too tight or too loose... the poking while firing method may help too if you wind your own coil on the wick since the coil is easily manipulated while its red hot.

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[MisterCombo21]

I lube the wick with some VG... anything will fit with a little lube... ha ha!

My thought is that the bottom coil may be either too tight or too loose... the poking while firing method may help too if you wind your own coil on the wick since the coil is easily manipulated while its red hot.

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Nice image LOL.
Yeah, I can always get them even but it doesnt stay. Just a quick push and I'm good but a tank later I check and its not as bright anymore... Ill give the screw method a shot... Overall quite content right now. Both DID's working well for past two days after the tweaking to my wick process. I was definitely overheating them. Man, I cant wait for those new engraved top caps

 

[johnsnhu]

Nice image LOL.
Yeah, I can always get them even but it doesnt stay. Just a quick push and I'm good but a tank later I check and its not as bright anymore... Ill give the screw method a shot... Overall quite content right now. Both DID's working well for past two days after the tweaking to my wick process. I was definitely overheating them. Man, I cant wait for those new engraved top caps

The more you do it, the better you'll get. Took me about 3 months, 25-30 feet of Kanthal, and a couple shipments of mesh to get it perfect.


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[MisterCombo21]

The more you do it, the better you'll get. Took me about 3 months, 25-30 feet of Kanthal, and a couple shipments of mesh to get it perfect.


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Sounds about right.. Its been a nice ride. I've probably about reached that in Kanthal but I got a month to go. Definitely past the point of going back to any other type of set up though I'm eyeing some other nice mechanicals...

 

[johnsnhu]

Sounds about right.. Its been a nice ride. I've probably about reached that in Kanthal but I got a month to go. Definitely past the point of going back to any other type of set up though I'm eyeing some other nice mechanicals...

aren't we all?!?

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[Uma]

I remember a time when I was oh so gentle with my coils and wick. Not any more! I now PUSH that wick away from the screw or post good and firm, I scoot that coil like I mean it. All is good. Usually it's the coil after the not so bright coil that is being the culprit, sometimes it's the dull coil itself. I give them all the riot act lol.

That troll made me scream! You can see pictures here:
Hilarious Photos of People Getting the Crap Scared Out of Them - Mandatory

 

[turnforward]

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This is my third wick/coil. First one,to many shorts for my ProVeri. Second one, worked and was better (5 wrap coil) and no error codes, but the oms keep getting higher as time went by, and had a metallic taste like I have heard from others. I realized that the cheap $7 torch I got from H Freight might not get hot enough.

So this time, I oxidized the wick the same way, (One pre-burn, rolled then burn/quench three times, and three juice burns), but this time I spent longer on each burn then after the juice burns I DID two more burns with/out quenching. This time the wick was evenly black all the way around, and there were no "colorful" areas on it. This time I made sure the wick was snug in the hole, and wrapped the coil three times.
The piece of cardboard in the picture is what I used to cut the mesh piece and it measures 3 cm x 4 cm. The wick in the picture is like a straw and I can easily fit a round toothpick in the center.

This one had no shorts, and a "rock steady" 1.8 oms for the last 3 days. It tasted and vaped "OK" but my STDC and Boge Carts tasted and vaporized a little better.
I usually vape at an 80 degree angle, and the DID could not go any higher than 3.8 volts with out burning, and I could hear a little after-burn sizzle after every hit. Then I started hitting it at an 90 degree angle and higher with the wick on the bottom of the PV. Then I could turn the voltage a little higher. BUT, the vape was inconsistent. At first, you could tell that the wick was saturated and it gave a good strong flavor with little vapor, then I would drop down the angle and it hit pretty good for a few hits, then it would start to burn a little. Then I would start the cycle over again. (It reminded me of dripping an atty, and I hate dripping.)

PLEASE HELP
I have always heard people saying that the ss mesh always wicked better than everything else, and I would love the DID if I can get it to wick consistently at around an 80 degree angle. The juices I use are mostly tastyvapor.us juices at 70/30 mix and also myvaporstore.com 50/50 red & white tobacco and V4L butterscotch.

I was hoping to get some response from this post before i make my fourth wick..
Should I make a thicker roll of mesh? Should I make a thinner roll of mesh? Should I make a loose roll of mesh, or a tighter roll of mesh?
I don't have a problem with shorting anymore. I just want a wick that actually wicks without having to turn it upside down, making it seem like I am drinking from it, when vaping.

 

[MisterCombo21]

I remember a time when I was oh so gentle with my coils and wick. Not any more! I now PUSH that wick away from the screw or post good and firm, I scoot that coil like I mean it. All is good. Usually it's the coil after the not so bright coil that is being the culprit, sometimes it's the dull coil itself. I give them all the riot act lol.

That troll made me scream! You can see pictures here:
Hilarious Photos of People Getting the Crap Scared Out of Them - Mandatory

LOL. You show that coil who's boss! I'll remember to smack them around a bit if they misbehave...